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Posted on 11/1/20 at 6:44 am
Posted by BigDaddyDawg
Washington D.C.
Member since Sep 2017
1328 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 6:44 am
Had a hellofa good game, I think he is our clear number 1.
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
1805 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 6:55 am to
I think that was his first 100 yard game
Posted by BossBailey345
Member since Nov 2019
2282 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 6:57 am to
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think he is our clear number 1.



Meh but yes he did great
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
1805 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 7:02 am to
There were a couple plays that if he cut a different direction he gets big chunks instead of 5.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 7:39 am to
Wish TG3 would spend sometime in the off-season teaching our guys about vision. He has the best vision I have very seen.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 7:52 am to
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There were a couple plays that if he cut a different direction he gets big chunks instead of 5.


Not directing this at you, per se, but at all that questions the vision of Zamir.

When you are on the field things are happening in a split second and it is impossible to see every hole and opportunity. When we are watching from camera angles above the action it is 100X easier to see things open up and change than it is at field level where your vision may be blocked by other players and/or referees.

From what I have seen of Zamir his vision is excellent. he changes direction and goes to the hole more often than not.

Remember...nobody is going to see 100% of everything or have time to make a change.

Is he a perfect back? No. My feeling is he lacks breakaway speed and prefers running over people rather than going around. Don't get me wrong, he can and has made cuts to try to get to open field....he seems to prefer to use his strength and power to make yards. When you need 3-5 yards the fastest and most effective way is a straight line. Personally I hate to see RBs that give up a first down to try to make an additional five. Cook does this a lot....although I have seen definite improvement in Cook with his power.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23981 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:31 am to
Musa, I mean Zamir, had a good game
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14160 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:37 am to
Great to watch. He’s definiely paid his deus.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:40 am to
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There were a couple plays that if he cut a different direction he gets big chunks instead of 5.




This could be said of every RB whose ever played a down of FB
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:45 am to
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I hate to see RBs that give up a first down to try to make an additional five. Cook does this a lot....


He's got far more additional yardage from his cuts than he's lost.

Someone yesterday said he did this repeatedly...which simply isn't correct.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:49 am to
Let’s be real. Zues is probably the worst starting tailback we have had in our backfield since like 2010 or 2011. He’s pretty good but not a gamebreaker
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:57 am to
He's still not all the way there. Maybe he ends up like Frank Gore and gets back to 100% when he hits the NFL.

He's running hard and training hard - and he's improving. I'm positive about what I've seen from him.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44721 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 10:34 am to
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Wish TG3 would spend sometime in the off-season teaching our guys about vision.


Vision can't be taught. RBs either have it or they don't. It is an instinct. Trent Richardson had no vision and got away with it in college. It got badly exposed in the NFL.
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1361 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:09 pm to
I have a feeling Zeus is going to be one of those guys that has a very strong NFL career. The longer he gets removed from his injuries I expect him to get better and better. I just don’t know if his speed will ever get back to his high school days.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:47 pm to
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He's got far more additional yardage from his cuts than he's lost.


I think it was Cook who gave up a first down at Kentucky.....although it may have been someone else. Whoever it was, had they planted their foot and gone straight up the field we would have had a first down, but they went to the sideline and got caught setting up a 3rd and 1 situation. That kind of stuff drives me crazy and can cost you games. There are times to go for additional yardage and times to plant your foot and take the one yard and first down.
Situational running is not Cook's forte. That said, he has protected the ball much better this year and seems to be driving with power more and not going down on first contact, which is a welcome addition.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Someone yesterday said he did this repeatedly...which simply isn't correct.


Wasn't me. I wouldn't say it is repeatedly, though. he does give up first downs to go for a homerun sometimes. When it is first down you can do that. When it is 2nd or 3rd down get the first down. Don't set your offense up for a 3rd and 2 or 4th and 1 when you could have gotten the first down.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:51 pm to
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I have a feeling Zeus is going to be one of those guys that has a very strong NFL career.


Probably a short one. Power backs typically don't last long in the NFL. They can have a strong 2-4 year career but take too much of a beating.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:14 pm to
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think it was Cook who gave up a first down at Kentucky


He got one and missed and didn't "give up" yards.He avoided tackles to get in position to get
the 1st down.No different than any scat back or WR that's ever played.

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That kind of stuff drives me crazy and can cost you games. There are times to go for additional yardage and times to plant your foot and take the one yard and first down.


Its so much easier to rip a guy for "vision" or "bad cuts" from the couch.The positives outweigh the negatives with the vast majority of these including Cook and Pickens (who does the same thing)

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not going down on first contact, which is a welcome addition
Another very exaggerated narrative.

He's been our most explosive player on offense this year and it's good to see Monken take advantage of his talent and speed
(he's our fastest RB)
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:25 pm to
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He got one and missed and didn't "give up" yards.He avoided tackles to get in position to get
the 1st down.No different than any scat back or WR that's ever played.



You give up yards when you don't take them. Semantics, maybe.

But you have to get the first down first. That is your #1 goal unless you are absolutely positive you can break it. If you don't get the first down you put your team in the position of giving up the ball.

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Its so much easier to rip a guy for "vision" or "bad cuts" from the couch.The positives outweigh the negatives with the vast majority of these including Cook and Pickens (who does the same thing)

We can disagree. Not sure where you played, but in a lot of teams if you give up first downs too many times you will find a seat on the bench. Yes. They all do it from time to time, but you had better pick up the first down if you don't break it.
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Another very exaggerated narrative.

No it's not. have you watched him from the past two years?

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He's been our most explosive player on offense this year and it's good to see Monken take advantage of his talent and speed
(he's our fastest RB)


Key words: This year. Which is why I said it is a welcome addition.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 5:20 pm to
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Zues

Every time a Georgia fans spells Zeus this way we stray a little further from God's light
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