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re: Would you be happy with 11-3?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:15 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:15 am to DawgsLife
The team failed to finish ranked in the AP for a reason in 2015. In fact, he accomplished not finishing ranked in both polls 4 times in his final 7 years of 2009-2015. Richt won 79% of the games from 01-07, and experienced a huge drop off to 69% from 08-15.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:41 am to djsdawg
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The team failed to finish ranked in the AP for a reason in 2015. In fact, he accomplished not finishing ranked in both polls 4 times in his final 7 years of 2009-2015. Richt won 79% of the games from 01-07, and experienced a huge drop off to 69% from 08-15.
10% drop off is almost a whole game.
Look, I am not arguing we should have kept him. I and almost everybody on here have said it was time to move on. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
I will say this, without hesitation, though. If he was not the best coach Georgia has ever had, he is top 2. I don't think there can be an argument about that.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:00 am to DawgsLife
So, to be clear, we can't demand excellence til 2018? What shall we demand in 2017?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:42 am to Peter Buck
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So, to be clear, we can't demand excellence til 2018? What shall we demand in 2017?
Do you mean excellence as in a National Championship, a SEC Title, or a SEC East Title?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:01 pm to DawgsLife
I have no idea. I just figured that I could post some vague hubristic statements about winning no matter what based on commitment levels I never came close to making in my personal life. Isn't how this Works?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:05 pm to djsdawg
Early CMR era had the misfortune of zero SEC cred in the media the way our conference came on over the last 10 years. 2007/2008 were heart crushing seasons for anyone, especially a coach. I can see why there was a drop off. I also feel like CMR was always subject to poor Coordinator choices and player issues following 2004/5. There were always excuses that could be clearly pointed to but he was slow to change the issues. I feel like CMR was loyal to a fault. To Coordinators, to Seniors, etc.
We've had our "Excuse Tour" circa 2007-2015. No more excuses. We want wins. Show me the wins!
We've had our "Excuse Tour" circa 2007-2015. No more excuses. We want wins. Show me the wins!
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:14 pm to Peter Buck
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I have no idea. I just figured that I could post some vague hubristic statements about winning no matter what based on commitment levels I never came close to making in my personal life. Isn't how this Works?
It does for some people.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:16 pm to AirDawg
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I also feel like CMR was always subject to poor Coordinator choices and player issues following 2004/5.
I agree, but it is for this reason I don't want to hear people complain about Chaney. Kirby picked him.
I actually think Chaney called plays based upon the personnel he had last season, and think we will see a big difference this year. However, if we don't....Kirby picked him.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:30 pm to DawgsLife
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I actually think Chaney called plays based upon the personnel he had last season, and think we will see a big difference this year. However, if we don't....Kirby picked him.
I actually agree with all of this ^^
Any Coach is going to limit the play book to new players. Especially a Trufrosh QB who hasn't played a down of SEC football, but add in a new line coach who is changing the blocking scheme for a third straight year and you really have to simplify to limit the potential train wreck.
I do feel like Chaney was a default pick due to the fact CKS wanted Dan Enos but couldn't get him (Non compete clause or something) and if he wanted Sam Pittman it had to be one of those (Enos or Chaney). Pittman had worked with both and had a close relationship with both. Enos would have been a better hire IMHO.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:58 pm to AirDawg
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Especially a Trufrosh QB who hasn't played a down of SEC football,
This is what limited the playbook the most, imo.
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but add in a new line coach who is changing the blocking scheme for a third straight year and you really have to simplify to limit the potential train wreck.
I don't think Pittman did a great job with this. However, it seemed as if he wanted to give the guys a chance to learn the new blocking schemes, and when it became obvious they were struggling he went back to a zone blocking scheme.
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I do feel like Chaney was a default pick due to the fact CKS wanted Dan Enos but couldn't get him (Non compete clause or something) and if he wanted Sam Pittman it had to be one of those (Enos or Chaney). Pittman had worked with both and had a close relationship with both. Enos would have been a better hire IMHO.
You could be right. I wasn't following the hires REAL closely, but from what I heard, it did seem to fall in line with what you are saying.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:36 pm to DawgsLife
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10% drop off is almost a whole game.
1.3 more losses per year is a big drop, and the number would be bigger if we do the split at 08/09.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:07 pm to Kneehigh
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an article up about some bold predictions and they all predicted 11-3
Please,we freakin have 50+ 4 and 5 stars on this roster.
Can'this remember the last time we came close to that many quality players in Athens.
11-3 minimum and stop with the O line bitching.Clemson played for the NC with 5 rookies.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:19 pm to Peter Buck
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I have no idea. I just figured that I could post some vague hubristic statements about winning no matter what based on commitment levels I never came close to making in my personal life. Isn't how this Works?
Take an up vote as I like your style.
Speaking totally for myself, I don't demand excellence or national championships. I just want to do better than splitting with shitty TN and SC teams over the next 10 years. I live in Columbia and got sick of catching shite when teams with a fraction of the talent beat us half the time.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:24 pm to RD Dawg
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stop with the O line bitching.Clemson played for the NC with 5 rookies.
It really helps to have an offensive system that maximizes the full potential of a 5 star dual threat qb. We don't have that working for us for multiple reasons.
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 8:35 am
Posted on 6/16/17 at 5:49 am to djsdawg
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1.3 more losses per year is a big drop, and the number would be bigger if we do the split at 08/09.
So now we are going to move goal posts to make your narrative more credible?
I am genuinely curious. What is the deal with you and Richt? You seem to genuinely hate the guy. He was arguably the best coach in the history of Georgia football....and there is little to no doubt he was top 2. I don't think I have ever seen you say anything positive about him. I just don't get it. Even his most ardent defenders can point to failures and admit it was time for him to go. But you? Nothing positive.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 5:51 am to SquatchDawg
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splitting with shitty TN and SC teams over the next 10 years.
In fairness, the SC teams that beat us were pretty darn good. However, we took a beatdown one year that was off the charts, bad.
Stinking Ball Coach.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:59 am to DawgsLife
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now we are going to move goal posts to make your narrative more credible?
I haven't moved the goal posts and my narrative is just as credible now as it was before you tried to argue the dropoff from richt 1.0 to richt 2.0 was not big. For the record, I was a big fan of 1.0.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:07 am to RD Dawg
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stop with the O line bitching.
GTFO. Their Oline was much more a capable blocking group than ours could ever dream to be last year.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:23 am to Spaceman Spiff
Whose fault was that though?
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:43 am to djsdawg
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I haven't moved the goal posts and my narrative is just as credible now as it was before you tried to argue the dropoff from richt 1.0 to richt 2.0 was not big. For the record, I was a big fan of 1.0.
You tried to change the years that were being discussed. If that isn't moving the goal posts then I don't know what is!
Thing is, I didn't even pick the discussed years. Another poster did.
You also acted like the program was in some great decline. This after we won 10 games the last two years he was here. There are TONS of teams that would love to be in such a decline.
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