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re: Why is JORdan-Hare pronounced JURdan-Hare?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 9:21 am to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 11/10/17 at 9:21 am to Jefferson Dawg
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It's the same concept. Ignorant/arrogant outsiders trying to deny a region their culture and traditions dot dot dot dot dot dot and to try and make it conform to THEIR outsider worldview and perspective instead. Dot dot dot dot dot dot
am I an ignorant/arrogant outsider..growing up in the state of Georgia and the South?..who has a brother named JORdan...questioning the pronunciation of something?
and guess what dotdotdot I have been posting like this long before you showed up...I don't plan on stopping because the resident grump who thinks he knows everything tries a weak attempt at making fun of it.
there is a big difference in having a drawl and speaking "southernese"....and sounding like an uneducated idiot.
Confederate statues and battle flags have nothing to do with seeking the reasoning behind a certain pronunciation...and anybody who tries to link the two is trying too hard.
go back to your Hunger Games threads...
"onward"..................................................................................................................................................................
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Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:08 am to SthGADawg
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am I an ignorant/arrogant outsider..growing up in the state of Georgia and the South?..
Yes. Exactly.
It's the definition of being an arrogant ignorant outsider to condescend to how people pronounce their own damn family names, counties, towns, etc dot dot dot dot dot dot from 2017 when you aren't even a part of that family, county, town, etc. And have no clue about the history of that pronunciation. Or even a basic understanding of etymology and that all words, every got dammed one of them evolves through time from somewhere continuing as we speak.
This is the yankee busy-body instinct (not limited to only yankees) personified to a T. dot dot dot Your way is right, theirs is wrong. Why? Because you say so, from far away. History heritage truth and tradition be damned. dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot so pathetic and gross.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 10:47 am to SthGADawg
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Thoughts?
Yeah, who the hell cares?
Posted on 11/10/17 at 11:10 am to SthGADawg
I have heard Jordan pronounced Jur-den most of my life. Most of these pronunciations, if you go back in time, are the way the English pronounced those words. I have also heard Houston pronounced as House-ton most of my life, for the same reasons.
I traveled into Illinois near Cairo once and stopped at the Welcome Station. I asked they guy working there how do the natives pronounce Cairo - he said Kay-ro. My response was -same as in Georgia. A Houston street in Manhattan is pronounced House - ton, same as in Georgia.
I remember a Wisconsin fan, a few years back, denigrating the term football britches saying it was a Southern backward term. I told him it was actually a derivation of the old English word breeches, which means short pants covering the leg to the knees.
None of these words are new or backward, just products of our English culture.
I traveled into Illinois near Cairo once and stopped at the Welcome Station. I asked they guy working there how do the natives pronounce Cairo - he said Kay-ro. My response was -same as in Georgia. A Houston street in Manhattan is pronounced House - ton, same as in Georgia.
I remember a Wisconsin fan, a few years back, denigrating the term football britches saying it was a Southern backward term. I told him it was actually a derivation of the old English word breeches, which means short pants covering the leg to the knees.
None of these words are new or backward, just products of our English culture.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 11:57 am to bunkerhill
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A Houston street in Manhattan is pronounced House - ton, same as in Georgia.
Most places named Houston are pronounced Howston, except for the one gigantic city in Texas that pronounces it differently.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 12:14 pm to deeprig9
Because I was curious, came across this answer on an Auburn board elsewhere:
Not a bad explanation...
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How do you pronounce "word?"
Jord an
Jordan
Supposedly that's how Shug's family would explain it.
Not a bad explanation...
Posted on 11/10/17 at 1:41 pm to fibonaccisquared
Schley County in SOWEGA is, apparently, pronounced as Sly County.
Another one I can't stand is Smyrna being pronounced as Smurr-Na instead of Smear-Na.
Another one I can't stand is Smyrna being pronounced as Smurr-Na instead of Smear-Na.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:11 am to Jefferson Dawg
I questioned the pronunciation because I have only ever heard it when referencing that coach and that stadium...but it is a very popular name. I don't really think that is a huge issue...or that I was not recognizing someone's culture or history for doing so...you are just tried and true about being a grumpy arse know it all on this site...I've been watching it for years...and frick you for referring to me as a yankee...you can literally kiss my arse.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:14 am to FinleyStreet
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Yeah, who the hell cares?
who the hell really cares about half the shite on this site?
if you don't care...don't reply.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:36 am to SthGADawg
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and frick you for referring to me as a yankee...you can literally kiss my arse.
Bunkerhill and Deeprig destroyed your yankee-insicnt having arse too. It was glorious.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:16 am to SthGADawg
It's a "Southern" pronunciation. Jordan's I've grown up with use same pronunciation. Sons middle name is Jordan & pronounced Ger-done
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:07 pm to bunkerhill
If you can find any multigenerational natives of Georgia they use a lot of terms like this depending on where they're from. My grandma's people were from Oglethorpe county going back to pre-civil war and she used to use a few terms that were definitely old English....like referring to boys as chaps.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:22 pm to AthensRattler
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What about Taliaferro County, pronounced by all 6 people that live there as tal-uh-ver. Weird as shite.
Perhaps the question should be why don't the people today pronounce it the same as the folks who have lived there for generations have pronounced it since it was founded back in the early 1800's....or why the Revolutionary War captain it was named after pronounced his last name that way....just as it had been pronounced in England since the 1500's....when it was adopted from an an Italian surname.
History...not weird...
If you're there and run into one of the 6 residents pronounce it as Tolliver so you don't appear uncouth.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:01 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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insicnt
not really familiar with this term...I guess your bad spelling is a testament to all of your untouchable southern culture and distinction.
onward...
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:11 pm to SthGADawg
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I refuse to say these this way...I pronounce the first like the city in Egypt...and the second like the city in Texas
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Personally, it sounds ignorant.
So, you refuse to pronounce people’s family names and places correctly.... And go so far as to call them ignorant...but when you get called out on it and put in your place, youre gonna act like YOU’RE the one being unfairly judged and persecuted???
Yep. Like I said. Yankee busybody instincts personified.
Keep em coming
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:19 pm to Jefferson Dawg
do you say JURdan or JORdan?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:35 pm to SthGADawg
Both.
I’m not going to say Jer-don Spieth. And I’m not going to say Jor-don Hare. Because that’s not how either is pronounced.
Didn’t realize basic manners were rocket science these days now.
I’m not going to say Jer-don Spieth. And I’m not going to say Jor-don Hare. Because that’s not how either is pronounced.
Didn’t realize basic manners were rocket science these days now.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:50 pm to Jefferson Dawg
if that is the way the Auburn legend pronounced his name....I don't have a problem saying it that way....outside of this instance I have never in my years of living in Georgia heard the pronunciation...so I brought it up as a discussion point.......during Auburn week.....somehow...that ended up with you attacking me for trying to tear down statues and not being Southern enough or whatever....it was a little ridiculous honestly. You and I actually agree on more than I think you realize but for years now...when you do engage me it is always negative. Not sure why....I guess it is the ellipsis.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 6:18 pm to SquatchDawg
Imagine how inbred those 6 people are now... Seriously though thanks for the info I never bothered to look it up. I’m down there a lot (photographing wildlife) and I’ve driven every road in the county. It’s crazy how many big white column antebellum homes you see way off the beaten path in that county. shite ton of rattlesnakes too.
I’m shocked that it has even less people than Echols Co. I guess western Echols is pretty much Valdosta suburb but eastern Echols seems like the final frontier.
I’m shocked that it has even less people than Echols Co. I guess western Echols is pretty much Valdosta suburb but eastern Echols seems like the final frontier.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 6:52 pm to AthensRattler
I lived there when I was a kid so I have an interest in the area. That was back when Heavy himself was still running Heavys BarBQ.
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