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re: Want to watch the in house highlights from the game? Pay up!
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:17 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:17 am to DawgsLife
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But I won't criticize a business for trying to make money, either.
I'm happy to
Here's why:
1. A for-profit business selling goods is not the same thing as a nonprofit relying heavily on charitable donations.
2. Said nonprofits typically feature great amounts of charitable action themselves, giving back to the community etc. so people like them enough to keep donating. Think free pom poms vs. $5 pom poms
3. People hate feeling nickeled & dimed. Think about a business with a 3% credit card surcharge vs. a business that gives a 3% cash discount, or just charges 3% more & doesn't mention the card at all.
Consumer psych & goodwill can be tough to use in an argument (psychology gets very subjective/hand wavy imo) but it is a significant factor nonetheless. Imagine a church charging for communion or use of the hymnal that week.
It's tacky, heavy handed, and tone deaf imo. Frankly I'm glad they're getting clowned.
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:38 am to Wwarmouth
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:48 am to AlaCowboy46
Proud of you bro!
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:14 am to Bigdawgb
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1. A for-profit business selling goods is not the same thing as a nonprofit relying heavily on charitable donations.
And yet the principle purpose or doing this is to raise money for NIL for the football team. Now, either we want to support the team/program, or we do not. That is up to each individual. But, you cannot decide you want a certain product that requires time, money to produce then demand that it be given to you.
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2. Said nonprofits typically feature great amounts of charitable action themselves, giving back to the community etc. so people like them enough to keep donating. Think free pom poms vs. $5 pom poms
But this one is set up explicitly to raise money for NIL. It is said plainly, so those who choose to watch the video knows exactly what their money is going for. The give back to the community that donates is better players for the program.
quote:Nobody is being nickled and dimed. They are providing content to raise NIL money. You can either watch and pay or decline. But just because somebody WANTS something does not mean they have to give it. Try going to any charitable organization that sells merchandise and demand they give you that merchandise for free and see what answer they give you.
3. People hate feeling nickeled & dimed. Think about a business with a 3% credit card surcharge vs. a business that gives a 3% cash discount, or just charges 3% more & doesn't mention the card at all.
quote:Yet churches do request members tithe. Nobody is forced to give the tithe, it is given at each persons discretion. But, if people refuse to give money, the church will be unable to turn on the lights, pay ministers, have air conditioning, etc.
Consumer psych & goodwill can be tough to use in an argument (psychology gets very subjective/hand wavy imo) but it is a significant factor nonetheless. Imagine a church charging for communion or use of the hymnal that week.
As for the scarcity argument. (Not from you, but someone else) scarcity is only one factor in the cost of a product. Demand is also a bigger factor. There can be demand, but if there is no scarcity the price will remain low.
By the same token, there can be scarcity, but if there is no demand the price will remain low.
Demand plays a much bigger role than supply on its own. Or at least as important a role.
quote:That's fine, but just know that there can be consequences, too. If the NIL Collective does not make money, then they can offer less money to players causing them to leave the program. To dismiss something out of hand can have consequences.
It's tacky, heavy handed, and tone deaf imo. Frankly I'm glad they're getting clowned.
FTR, I was against paying players from the start. Actions quite often have hidden results. This is the hidden result of paying players.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/10/26 at 1:15 pm to DawgsLife
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But, you cannot decide you want a certain product that requires time, money to produce then demand that it be given to you.
Well, you say that....
- every mafia organization and government (BIRM) ever
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:47 pm to DawgsLife
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And yet the principle purpose or doing this is to raise money for NIL for the football team.
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But this one is set up explicitly to raise money for NIL
The purpose isn't what I'm arguing, it's the method of execution. There is more than one way to go about "raising money for NIL for the football team" is there not?
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Nobody is being nickled and dimed. They are providing content to raise NIL money. You can either watch and pay or decline. But just because somebody WANTS something does not mean they have to give it. Try going to any charitable organization that sells merchandise and demand they give you that merchandise for free and see what answer they give you.
The $5 pom poms that were previously free are the definition of being nickeled & dimed imo. It's a simple fact that people won't like paying for something they previously received for free, no matter how good the reason. TBF though I think this is more frustration at the "everything's a subscription with ads in your face" world we live in than it is the UGAA specifically.
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Yet churches do request members tithe. Nobody is forced to give the tithe, it is given at each persons discretion. But, if people refuse to give money, the church will be unable to turn on the lights, pay ministers, have air conditioning, etc.
This goes back to more than one way to skin a cat...the church I grew up in went too far with a push for money & eventually lost a lot of members because of it. It's not a one way street. The church was also tacky & tone deaf, and the response wasn't pretty.
I think talk of "consequences" is a bit rich considering the consequences of massive negative PR this campaign has already generated. You have to find a balance & imo public opinion is saying they've gone too far.
I don't think it's intentional - these guys are probably under enormous pressure to generate funds - but I am really hoping they respond wisely to the backlash instead of doubling down.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:46 am to Bigdawgb
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The purpose isn't what I'm arguing, it's the method of execution. There is more than one way to go about "raising money for NIL for the football team" is there not?
Yes,, there is. Take Tennessee for instance. They added a 10% fee to tickets to their games to raise money.
AP-Tennessee is adding a 10% fee on football game tickets next season to pay players I guess Georgia could have done that. MUCH better for the fans!
quote:Don't care about pom poms. As an adult I wouldn't be waving pom poms anyway.
The $5 pom poms that were previously free are the definition of being nickeled & dimed imo. It's a simple fact that people won't like paying for something they previously received for free, no matter how good the reason. TBF though I think this is more frustration at the "everything's a subscription with ads in your face" world we live in than it is the UGAA specifically.
I used to watch shows on Amazon Prime streaming without commericals. Now, I either have to upgrade for a fee, or sit through commercials. Frankly? I don't care. There are lots of stuff that we pay for now that was once free. It's called life. Those who wanted to pay players are getting the results of their wants.
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This goes back to more than one way to skin a cat...the church I grew up in went too far with a push for money & eventually lost a lot of members because of it. It's not a one way street. The church was also tacky & tone deaf, and the response wasn't pretty.
I would say the church had a problem then. But people should realize you can't worship a church, pastor or anything except Christ. Without context, I don't know why the church was trying to raise money. I do know most churches raise money to pay salaries, provide for ministries, keep the building cool in the summer and warm in the winter, do upkeep on buildings....if you don't mind me asking...why was the church trying to raise money?
quote:Again, out of curiosity...how should they try to raise money? My guess is they already send out letters...it seems reasonable to charge a nominal fee for merchandise or service.
I think talk of "consequences" is a bit rich considering the consequences of massive negative PR this campaign has already generated. You have to find a balance & imo public opinion is saying they've gone too far.
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I don't think it's intentional - these guys are probably under enormous pressure to generate funds - but I am really hoping they respond wisely to the backlash instead of doubling down.
I agree that they are probably under pressure. With Tennessee adding a 10% fee on their tickets and with a 100,000 seat stadium, and 7 home games, they will add $7,000,000 to their NIL bottom line, if their average ticket price is $100. (I could not find what their average ticket price, so I made it $100, making the NIL add $10, so it could be more or less. I realize that OOC cupcakes will get less but other games will command higher prices)
Hey. Y'all can get upset, if you want. I guess my main thing is that nobody is forced to watch their highlight video, and if you just have to watch that particular one, then you can take solace that you are also contributing to the NIL collective.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:48 am to FaCubeItches
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Well, you say that....
- every mafia organization and government (BIRM) ever
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