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re: So what does this offense bring us in 2020?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:19 pm to BeefDawg
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:19 pm to BeefDawg
I linked our 1st 3 possessions
I'll be glad to keep going but I really don't want to.You DO KNOW to click on the up/down arrows to see the summary possession,correct?
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- 1st) D'Andre Swift run for 1 yd to the Geo 30
2nd & 9 at UGA 30
(10:50 - 1st) D'Andre Swift run for 4 yds to the Geo 34
3rd & 5 at UGA 34
(9:40 - 1st) Jake Fromm pass complete to D'Andre Swift for a loss of 3 yards to the Geo 31
4th & 8 at UGA 31
(9:20 - 1st) Jake Camarda punt for 67 yds, downed at the Aub 2
?PUNT4 PLAYS, 9 YARDS, 2:02
UGA0AUB0
?TOUCHDOWN3 PLAYS, 61 YARDS, 1:22
UGA7AUB0
1st & 10 at UGA 39
(7:00 - 1st) Jake Fromm pass complete to Lawrence Cager for 6 yds to the Geo 45
2nd & 4 at UGA 45
(6:35 - 1st) Brian Herrien run for 4 yds to the Geo 49 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at UGA 49
(5:56 - 1st) Jake Fromm pass complete to Dominick Blaylock for 51 yds for
I'll be glad to keep going but I really don't want to.You DO KNOW to click on the up/down arrows to see the summary possession,correct?
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 9:24 pm
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:19 pm to meansonny
I see one pass on first down in the first half. Don't have a dog in this fight, but that's what I see.
Edit: wrong, I was just looking at the first 1st down in the series.
Edit: wrong, I was just looking at the first 1st down in the series.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:28 pm to Kneehigh
I'm thinking we'll see Oklahoma style play calling. Whether we get Mayfield/Murray at QB or Hurts we don't know. But with our defense I see us in the playoff if the QB works.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 8:00 am
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:36 pm to RD Dawg
quote:I see what you did. You're looking at all 1st down plays, while I'm looking at just what started off each possession.
Nothing I said was incorrect and I linked all the play by plays from UF,A&M and AU
I'm glad we're making a change hopefully for the best but the out and out idiocy of the "stacking the box" or "run,run,pass punt argument was simply a fallicy but it always makes for good message board venting.
And no, the run, run, pass, punt argument is not a fallacy.
All but one of the 1st down passes in the first half came from 2 possessions, and 2 of which resulted in TD's.
All 6 of our first half punts were on possessions that started with a run. And 4 of those were 3 and outs. And 3 of them were run, run, pass.
The fact that we scored on 2 of the plays where all but one of the 1st down passes came from makes my argument even better, for christ sake.
Meanwhile, 6 out of 7 possessions we ran to open the possession resulted in a punt.
I mean holy hell, there were 5 run, run, pass possessions that resulted in a punt in this game, and 8 possessions that opened with a run that resulted in a 3 and out.
But you don't see this as an indication of a problem?
GTFO
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:37 pm to Kneehigh
Right now it’s unknown. But I think that’s to our advantage.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:42 pm to RD Dawg
quote:That's only 2 possessions.
I linked our 1st 3 possessions
Now look at the next 6. We open with a run on all of them.
We go 3 and out on 4 of those 6.
We pass on 1st down only on 2 possessions with extended drives.
That first half has FIVE 3 and outs, all of which we start with a run.
But you don't think that's an issue or predictable?
Yeah, that's stupid.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:50 pm to BeefDawg
So your premise is that the very first play of a drive determined the outcome of that drive.
And your premise is based upon a 2 choice option?
So our first half 7 play touchdown drive starting against Auburn with a run is an anomaly and that we should pass on the first play of the drive more often?
You are willing to ignore the other 52 plays in the game solely for the first play to key off a drive.
And you are criticizing someone else?
And your premise is based upon a 2 choice option?
So our first half 7 play touchdown drive starting against Auburn with a run is an anomaly and that we should pass on the first play of the drive more often?
You are willing to ignore the other 52 plays in the game solely for the first play to key off a drive.
And you are criticizing someone else?
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:54 pm to Kneehigh
quote:
So what does this offense bring us in 2020?
RUTS.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:54 pm to RD Dawg
quote:3 possessions: This resulted in 2 extended drives, 2 TD's, and 1 punt.
Passed the ball 7 times on 1st down
quote:7 possessions: This resulted in 6 punts, 5 3-and-outs, and 1 TD.
ran 7 times on 1st down
See it yet?
Or are you still going to suggest this is a fallacy because if you ignore possessions and just tally up all plays, it makes your case?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:54 pm to BeefDawg
I think both our 1st half TD drives against Auburn started with runs. Is that bad?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:59 pm to meansonny
quote:We went 3-and-out 9x vs. Auburn, and 7 of those started with a run.
So your premise is that the very first play of a drive determined the outcome of that drive.
And your premise is based upon a 2 choice option?
So our first half 7 play touchdown drive starting against Auburn with a run is an anomaly and that we should pass on the first play of the drive more often?
You are willing to ignore the other 52 plays in the game solely for the first play to key off a drive.
And you are criticizing someone else?
We scored 3 TD's in that game, and in all 3 of those scores we threw on 1st downs.
So yes, I think we should be throwing on 1st down much more.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:03 pm to AlaCowboy
quote:That's incorrect.
I think both our 1st half TD drives against Auburn started with runs. Is that bad?
Our first TD came on an opening 6 yard pass to Cager, a 4 yard run from Herrien, and then a 51 yarder to Blaylock.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:05 pm to BeefDawg
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see what you did. You're looking at all 1st down plays, while I'm looking at just what started off each possession
LMAO!What?
This ENTIRE discussion involves his play calling on 1st down and predictability.
This is your EXACT qoute
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So uhhhhh, we ran on 1st down on 7 out of 8 first half plays vs. Auburn. So I don't know WTF game you're talking about
Really?
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All 6 of our first half punts were on possessions that started with a run. And 4 of those were 3 and outs. And 3 of them were run, run, pass.
The "results" had nothing to do with the "predictability" in the 1st half and you were flat out
wrong.
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mean holy hell, there were 5 run, run, pass possessions that resulted in a punt in this game
Im taking your word here and I undoubtedly need to double check
(I mean you don't even know how to read a possession chart) but I was referring to the 1st half only.
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The fact that we scored on 2 of the plays where all but one of the 1st down passes came from makes my argument even better, for christ sake
What? And 2 possessions that started out in a 1st down run resulted in a TD.
You're talking yourself in circles bro...give up
I never said Coley's offense wasn't an issue but there are obviously other issues that we need to resolve as well and they resulted in what we saw on the field last year.I hated what we did in the 2nd half vs Auburn and it was NEVER part of the argument (of course you threw in there when you realized you we wrong) but there's no doubt Kirby gave those orders after getting a 21 pt lead.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:06 pm to BeefDawg
quote:
That's incorrect
It's COMPLETELY correct!
Geez dude,learn how to read a possession chart.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:07 pm to AlaCowboy
quote:
think both our 1st half TD drives against Auburn s
Correct
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:11 pm to RD Dawg
quote:No it's not, you asshat.
It's COMPLETELY correct!
Geez dude,learn how to read a possession chart.
The first TD started with a goddamn pass to Cager.
Only the second TD started with a run.
So it was incorrect. Both of the TD's in the first half were not from runs.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:13 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Wrong.
Correct
Jesus Christ, man. You even quoted the goddamn possession up top.
You said you quoted 3 possessions, but you only quoted 2.
And the 2nd possession is a pass to Cager, a run by Herrien, and a bomb to Blaylock for a TD.
Now how about you apologize... or don't and just keep looking like a dickhead.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:14 pm to BeefDawg
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So yes, I think we should be throwing on 1st down much mor
Why dont you look a little closer at 2nd down.
Tell me what you see.
Is there a take-away on our 2nd down plays?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:24 pm to BeefDawg
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Now how about you apologize
What? I just proved you wrong about your 1st down idiocy and you want me to "apologize"
2 TD possessions were the result of 1st down runs I just got the sequence wrong but it still doesn't disproves your idiocy
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:33 pm to meansonny
quote:We ran on 2nd down 17x (10 possessions) and passed on 2nd down 5x (5 possessions) against Auburn.
Why dont you look a little closer at 2nd down.
Tell me what you see.
Is there a take-away on our 2nd down plays?
6 3-and-outs and 7 punts on possessions we ran on 2nd down.
1 of our TD's we ran on 2nd down, but we opened with a pass and scored the TD on a pass on 1st down.
Our other 2 TD's we ran on 2nd down, but we also passed on 1st down on both of those, as well as passing on a 2nd down on one of them because it was an extended drive.
Key take-aways? We extend drives and score when we throw the ball on early downs, while we go 3-and-out and punt much more often when we run on early downs.
And I'm pretty sure this is one of the reasons why Coley is out and Kirby hired 3 guys (Luke, Monken, & Faulkner) who have all run offenses that balance out the passing and running, and use the passing to open the run.
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