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So what does this offense bring us in 2020?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:01 pm
Many believe (rightfully so) big plays through the passing game... but I honestly believe we can set records on the ground game... No more 10 in the box...
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:15 pm to Kneehigh
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So what does this offense bring us in 2020?
Not a James Coley offense.
It can only get better.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:22 pm to Kneehigh
I suspect we go from a 56% run/44% pass while running mostly inside and passing short outside, to being closer to 50/50 run/pass, and 50/50 inside/outside on both run and pass, while also throwing intermediate and deep a good percentage more rather than such a huge percentage short.
I believe we'll see a lot more throwing the ball on early downs and much less predictable run/run/pass over and over every game. Noticeable "pass to open the run" tendencies.
More deep balls/deeper routes in general, more middle and outside screens, more throws to the middle of the field, and more outside runs (50/50 with inside runs).
Probably see our TE's line up in the sniffer-HB position and used for anything from lead blockers on runs, to shuffle passes, to check downs in the middle or flat, on top of seams and intermediate routes.
Probably a ton of RPO and play-action in general, as well as some designed rollouts.
Plus maybe even a few read-options and a designed QB-keeper/counter here or there. Not a lot, just maybe 1-2 a game at most to test defenses and keep them guessing on runs and RPO's.
As a result of all this, I think our run game/YPC can actually improve. It should spread defenses out more and allow us to break several more big explosive runs with the types of backs we have.
I believe we'll see a lot more throwing the ball on early downs and much less predictable run/run/pass over and over every game. Noticeable "pass to open the run" tendencies.
More deep balls/deeper routes in general, more middle and outside screens, more throws to the middle of the field, and more outside runs (50/50 with inside runs).
Probably see our TE's line up in the sniffer-HB position and used for anything from lead blockers on runs, to shuffle passes, to check downs in the middle or flat, on top of seams and intermediate routes.
Probably a ton of RPO and play-action in general, as well as some designed rollouts.
Plus maybe even a few read-options and a designed QB-keeper/counter here or there. Not a lot, just maybe 1-2 a game at most to test defenses and keep them guessing on runs and RPO's.
As a result of all this, I think our run game/YPC can actually improve. It should spread defenses out more and allow us to break several more big explosive runs with the types of backs we have.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:26 pm to Kneehigh
I just hope they can roll it out relatively smoothly. LSU managed to do it, and I hope our QB's and receivers work as hard this offseason as those guys did. Sometimes a scheme change takes part or all of a season to iron out the kinks.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:30 pm to Kneehigh
Todd Monken offense
This video talks about his offense and the formations Monken uses. By the looks of it, he uses a lot of WRs in his formations which means there's going to be a lot of different guys getting the ball. I'm sure he's going to get these guys actually running college level routes instead of the middle school bs we've been seeing. If our line holds up, opposing team's secondary are going to have a hard time covering all the WRs that are going to be on the field at a the same time.
This video talks about his offense and the formations Monken uses. By the looks of it, he uses a lot of WRs in his formations which means there's going to be a lot of different guys getting the ball. I'm sure he's going to get these guys actually running college level routes instead of the middle school bs we've been seeing. If our line holds up, opposing team's secondary are going to have a hard time covering all the WRs that are going to be on the field at a the same time.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:43 pm to Kneehigh
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but I honestly believe we can set records on the ground game... No more 10 in the box
For fricks sake,NOBODY had 10 in the box unless it was a short yardage defense. Our most common formation was an 11 personnel pachage...which meant we almost always had 3 wideouts in every series.ALL those wideouts were covered along with at lease on safety supporting.
Were you even watching what was going on during games?
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:51 pm to BeefDawg
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believe we'll see a lot more throwing the ball on early downs and much less predictable run/run/pass over and over every game
But that's not what we did with the offense the 2nd half of the season.We threw on 1st down multiple times vs Auburn (1st half),Texas A&M and LSU.
The OL push up the middle along with WR separation were bigger issues than so called "predictability"
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:53 pm to RD Dawg
Nothibg to do with the box, we didn't have the horses we had in 2017. Swift is a dgd but not usual production.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:06 pm to Kneehigh
I suspect we will see some defensive adjustments as well. GA protected the ball pretty well under Chaney and Coley. With a new offense and new QB I wouldn’t be surprised to see 10 or so interceptions. The defense will need to work on its short field game and get used to playing more downs if GA turns it over more or develops a serious quick strike capability.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:06 pm to RD Dawg
quote:I guess you need to tell Kirby that he wasted his time and should have just stuck with Coley, since Coley already apparently called an Air Raid spread offense the second half of the season.
But that's not what we did with the offense the 2nd half of the season.We threw on 1st down multiple times vs Auburn (1st half),Texas A&M and LSU.
The OL push up the middle along with WR separation were bigger issues than so called "predictability"
It's astounding how only you saw how unpredictable an dynamic our offense was.
I mean WTF is Kirby thinking hiring Luke, Monken, and Faulker when all he had to do was let Coley keep doing what he did in the second half of the season.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:08 pm to BeefDawg
Better than last season for sure.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:23 pm to lewis and herschel
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Swift is a dgd but not usual production.
Nothing wrong with Swift at all in '18 or '19.
WR couldn't get open and OL didn't get the push up the middle we got in '18 and we didn't have much of a passing threat. We missed Gaillard more than anyone want to admit.
I'd love to have Swift back...RB is gonna be a question mark for next year.Still not sold on Zeus or Cook.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:36 pm to RD Dawg
quote:I just looked at the first half of the Auburn game and here's how it went:
We threw on 1st down multiple times vs Auburn (1st half)
1. run, run, pass, punt
2. pass, run, deep pass for TD
3. run, run, pass, pass, pass, pass, run, sack, punt
4. run, pass, run, pass, punt
5. run, pass, pass, punt
6. run, pass, pass, punt
7. run, run, pass, punt
8. run, run, pass, pass, run, pass, pass, pass for TD
So uhhhhh, we ran on 1st down on 7 out of 8 first half plays vs. Auburn. So I don't know WTF game you're talking about.
On top of this the second half looked like this:
1. pass, run, pass, punt
2. run, run, pass, punt
3. run, run, run, run, run, pass, run, run, pass, pass, run, pass for TD
4. run, pass, pass, punt
5. pass, run, pass, punt
6. run, run, pass, punt
So 11 out of 14 possessions started with a run.
I suspect Monken will have us closer to 50/50 on first downs. Not to mention a better route tree, more intermediate and deep passes, and more middle of the field usage on passes.
Plus probably 50/50 on inside vs outside runs too. Whereas Coley was a much higher percentage running inside the tackles.
And, on top of all this, I suspect the personnel groupings won't be so predictable. Like Zamir White was almost always an inside dive, or if certain receivers were in and/or a certain TE was in, it telegraphed a likely run or pass depending on who the grouping was, etc. etc.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:55 pm to BeefDawg
WTF were you watching? Click on the play by play of the 1st half. LINK
Passed the ball 7 times on 1st down and ran 7
Check out the UF play by play LINK
We passed 10 times on 1st down and ran 12.
Here is the A&M play by play
Passed 8 or 9 on 1st down.
Passed the ball 7 times on 1st down and ran 7
Check out the UF play by play LINK
We passed 10 times on 1st down and ran 12.
Here is the A&M play by play
Passed 8 or 9 on 1st down.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:56 pm to BeefDawg
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uhhhhh, we ran on 1st down on 7 out of 8 first half plays vs. Auburn. So I don't know WTF game you're talking about.
So uhhhh no we didn't.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:05 pm to BeefDawg
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uhhhhh, we ran on 1st down on 7 out of 8 first half plays vs. Auburn. So I don't know WTF game you're talking about.
I doubled check and was wrong.We actually passes 7 times on 1st down vs Auburn.
You sure you were watching the game from last year?Once again 1st half play by play
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:11 pm to BeefDawg
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It's astounding how only you saw how unpredictable an dynamic our offense was.
Nothing I said was incorrect and I linked all the play by plays from UF,A&M and AU
I'm glad we're making a change hopefully for the best but the out and out idiocy of the "stacking the box" or "run,run,pass punt argument was simply a fallicy but it always makes for good message board venting.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:11 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Dude, you're flat out nuts.
WTF were you watching? Click on the play by play of the 1st half. LINK
Someone help me out here and tell me what you see on our play-by-play vs. Auburn.
LINK
I see us running on first down 7 out of 8 possessions in the first half.
I have no clue WTF RD is looking at.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:15 pm to BeefDawg
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see us running on first down 7 out of 8 possessions in the first half.
Are you retarded or looking at the Auburn play by play? We passed on 1st down on 3 of our first 4 possessions.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:17 pm to BeefDawg
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Someone help me out here and tell me what you see on our play-by-play vs. Auburn.
You need to slow down and read more carefully (or try again when sober)
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