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So coaching grades and Monkens debut,

Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:07 am
Lanning A-, shut an SEC Team down in almost every way possible. Almost.

Monken, first half F-, worst debut as an OC imaginable. Would have expected him to be wanting to show his worth and why he gets such a large paycheck. Really embarrassing half.

Second Half, B+ turned it around just before half and started looking like the elite playcaller and coach we hired him to be.

Special Teams, A++, Cochran knows how to make a debut.

Smart, C+, not his best work as a head coach but still got a huge win in the end. Avoided what could have been the worst sec loss in program history. He has to do better managing the offense.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1477 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:29 am to
I was pleased with Monken's ability to adjust in the second half. It will be interesting to see our approach against Auburn.

Smart gets a D in my opinion. We looked unprepared and had way too many penalties. I think we'll be better prepared next week.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:34 am to
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I was pleased with Monken's ability to adjust in the second half.





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It will be interesting to see our approach against Auburn


If his Saturday adjustments are any indication, the game plan will be solid.


I give Todd a C+. He was trying to show off his offense and not develop his young QB. He was coming from the NFL, so to some extent I understand.

The ST was just amazing. A++

D was great. A

Preparation and discipline were awful to start, but the team never panicked, recovered eventually, and the leaders stepped up. It's the sign of less than ideal ability to adapt this off-season but good overall leadership. Kirby gets a C+.
This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 11:41 am
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13211 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 11:46 am to
I actually could see a HUGE difference in spacing, utilizing the middle of the field with TE’s, and overall run blocking scheme.

What has been failed to mention was the play of Trey Hill and the O-Line in general, for 2/3 of that game. They were pathetic.

It’s very clear to me, with the right QB, that offense could be run at a high level and be dynamic with proper execution.

Defense... nuff said.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:00 pm to
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I actually could see a HUGE difference in spacing, utilizing the middle of the field with TE’s, and overall run blocking scheme.

What has been failed to mention was the play of Trey Hill and the O-Line in general, for 2/3 of that game. They were pathetic.


Didn't mention the line. Hill had a lot of trouble. Line started shaky but wasn't terrible overall. Luke gets a C-.

The offense looks like it could be really good. Problem is I don't know if Bennett can run it past 80% effectiveness.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25559 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:01 pm to
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I actually could see a HUGE difference in spacing, utilizing the middle of the field with TE’s, and overall run blocking scheme.

What has been failed to mention was the play of Trey Hill and the O-Line in general, for 2/3 of that game. They were pathetic.

It’s very clear to me, with the right QB, that offense could be run at a high level and be dynamic with proper execution.

Defense... nuff said.



The passes offered to Bennett were a lot easier than those offered to Mathis (other than swing passes).

As was said, it looked like Monken wanted to show off instead of get into a rhythm. Maybe he was trying to get a strategy change with the safety play to help the run game.

I was hoping for a better start from Hill as an upperclassman. Maybe it will happen. I'm at the point where he has to show me before I will feel like he is the man at C.

I agree about the QB. I was hoping for 15 passing TDs and over 25 rushing TDs on the season. I want explosive plays passing. But I'm not expecting 25 passing TDs in a new scheme with a new QB. Manage the game but create/hit the big one when we try it (i.e. connor shaw).
Posted by dan765
Charleston
Member since Aug 2016
1170 posts
Posted on 9/27/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Smart, C+, not his best work as a head coach but still got a huge win in the end. Avoided what could have been the worst sec loss in program history. He has to do better managing the offense.


I think you're too hard on Kirby. They had a game plan that went awry because of bad execution. Hey it happens. But then they made the proper adjustments and voila.
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:00 am to
LOVED seeing all the TE usage. Imagine Nauta with this OC.

WTH is up with Trey Hill? How many times did he miss hike the ball?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:25 am to
We lost a lot of leadership on the offense and had a shortened time to prepare with COVID messing up everything. Newman leaving made it worse. As frustrating as the penalties were in the first half, they were pretty clean in the second when all the magic was happening.

It's tough to complain about having the team ready to play to start the game with all the adversity we've had prior to the season. I care more about adjustments that lead to wins and learning and improving from week to week.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:41 am to
Very underwhelming. Reminded me of Donnan's 1st year....and Donnan had a spring plus full fall practice to prepare.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:42 am to
Arkansas faced the same issues... Even more really.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:08 pm to
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Even more really.



How so?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:11 pm to
Totally new coach? All new coordinators? New qb from outside the program....
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:19 pm to
So, on the offensive side which is where the conversation was, they brought in a new coordinator and new qb from outside but theirs didn't quit two weeks before the season started. And they brought in a 2 year starter instead of having to rely on a former walkon or a RS freshman with no college experience. Sounds like their situation was slightly better than ours.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2789 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:28 pm to
Ark had 280 yards 91 of which came on 1 drive I'd say they didn't do as well as we thought.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:25 pm to
I want to downgrade Luke to D+. He's got work to do.

First half line play was abhorrent. Hard to imaging Pittboss getting 5 trashmen off the street and doing worse.
Posted by CBBDawg316
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2019
249 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:33 pm to
Have to agree. Execution was just not what you would have expected. From getting his $hit pushed in to bad snaps, Hill showed why he needs to play guard. Condon was on skates the whole time in that poor showing of pass protection. Shaffer was a disappointment.

QB is a concern but we’ll only go as the big boys take us. Need more push, sustained blocks, and tighter execution from the go.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27294 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Execution was just not what you would have expected. From getting his $hit pushed in to bad snaps, Hill showed why he needs to play guard. Condon was on skates the whole time in that poor showing of pass protection.


Settled down in the 2nd half once
we upgraded at RT and Bennett was
much more poised in the pocket.Hill still needs to get his shite together.
Posted by CBBDawg316
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2019
249 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:44 pm to
Yeah we settled down because McClendon came in. Condon got shown up in pass pro in the 1st half. His man was the one making D’wan panic, and instead of stepping up most of the time he would retreat and roll out of the pocket. Yes, Condon’s 2nd stint later in the game was better when he re-entered but I attributed that to Arky being worn out by then.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:50 pm to
Good news is they can run left behind Salyer all year and count on positive yards.

I don't think QB is as big a concern as people think, and Zeus could be first team all SEC with just a bit of blocking. He looks goooood.

I've watched every offensive play 4-5 times or more.

Monken is solid. He can work around some missed assignments every now and then. He can adjust in the fly. He can scheme these playmakers into success. I'm convinced he can win with Stetson or the settled down version of Mathis, which he may end up needing with what we saw up front.

What he can't do - what Bill Walsh couldn't do - is win with the line play in that first half.
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