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Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:06 am to Sanford&MunSon
Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:06 am to Sanford&MunSon
He isn't causing much if any of the drama as far as I can tell. Fans are...
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:17 am to Peter Buck
Yeah I wasn't insinuating that he's the problem. I just find the whole recruiting process ridiculous and am over the whole thing. Like I said if he chooses us the great, if not then good luck to him in whatever he decides to do. I'm moving on.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:31 am to Sanford&MunSon
He is part of the problem. He's had 2 years to evaluate this "major decision" yet found out on signing day UCLA didn't have his major. A freaking assistant Corch goes to the NFL and this kids world crashes down. Be a man, make a decision, and get on with it.
Fwiw I've been quite sympathetic to young Roquans plight, but good grief....
Fwiw I've been quite sympathetic to young Roquans plight, but good grief....
Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:39 am to WorkinDawg
The way I understand it, he said he wanted to major in business and they told him he could and he didn't dig deeper into it. Maybe some of that is on him, but this little anecdote shows the lack of ethics adults use to recruit teenagers to their semi pro team in hopes the teenagers can play really good football so the coach can get a 5 year $20m contract...
Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:43 am to Peter Buck
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He isn't causing much if any of the drama as far as I can tell. Fans are...
^^^this^^^
The amount of douchebag fans on twitter is vomit-worthy
Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:12 am to Peter Buck
Peter Buck, could you imagine deciding on a college without confirming they actually have your major? Like an EE or mech eng going to UGA and finding out at enrollment there isn't an EE track.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:19 am to WorkinDawg
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WorkinDawg Smith announcing Friday.... Peter Buck, could you imagine deciding on a college without confirming they actually have your major? Like an EE or mech eng going to UGA and finding out at enrollment there isn't an EE track.
When I was 17... If I asked the coach recruiting me if they had an EE major at UGA and he said yes, I would have believed him.
My Mom on the other hand, thought they were all scum bag used car salesman and told them as much. Looking back, I was lied to by people who many of you consider legends. It's a dirty process. I was lucky to have educated parents and a Dad who played college football.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:19 am to dallasga6
The question is why are we still talking about this?
Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:21 am to Spaceman Spiff
Because there is nothing else to talk about outside of basketball
Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:29 am to Damn Good Dawg
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Because there is nothing else to talk about outside of basketball
True, sir. I am going through withdrawals too
Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:34 am to Peter Buck
Yep PB, it really is all about the parents. Guess a lot of these expensive recruiting trips don't include appts with academic advisors.....and a lot of these 4* and 5* families don't know or don't care. Also suppose if your majoring in football and carry a 750 SAT you skip the whole "gotta have xxx to get into program yyy"
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:25 am to CBizWRECKIN
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After watching his hudl highlights - I don't care how long it drags out. If he suits up for the red and black with his head on straight, he is going to crack some skulls playing for Pruitt. He looks solid in coverage and has a nose for TFLs.
He looks like a playmaker with the ball in his hands as well. I don't know what his competitive level was, but he was a man among boys in all of those clips.
After watching his hudl highlights - I don't care how long it drags out. If he suits up for the red and black with his head on straight, he is going to crack some skulls playing for Pruitt. He looks solid in coverage and has a nose for TFLs.
He looks like a playmaker with the ball in his hands as well. I don't know what his competitive level was, but he was a man among boys in all of those clips.
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:57 am to WorkinDawg
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Yep PB, it really is all about the parents. Guess a lot of these expensive recruiting trips don't include appts with academic advisors.....and a lot of these 4* and 5* families don't know or don't care. Also suppose if your majoring in football and carry a 750 SAT you skip the whole "gotta have xxx to get into program yyy"
shite, our "academic" counselor was the football academic counselor. You didn't get deep and detailed answers on the academic part of your visit. It was the same just about everywhere.
" now son, you gotta keep your grades in order if you want to play. Now, Mom, I want you to see our academic center. It is right here in the McWhorter dorms where your boy will live. We require study hall every afternoon for Freshman and anyone who gets marks below a 2.5. We want to make sure your son gets an education here and gets to play football. Hey look, there's Herschal Walker. Let's go talk to him"
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:14 am to Peter Buck
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shite, our "academic" counselor was the football academic counselor. You didn't get deep and detailed answers on the academic part of your visit. It was the same just about everywhere.
" now son, you gotta keep your grades in order if you want to play. Now, Mom, I want you to see our academic center. It is right here in the McWhorter dorms where your boy will live. We require study hall every afternoon for Freshman and anyone who gets marks below a 2.5. We want to make sure your son gets an education here and gets to play football. Hey look, there's Herschal Walker. Let's go talk to him"
Lot of that is different now. McWhorter's demolition was symbolic in many respects. A lot of what they're doing in Rankin Smith now is pretty top notch and career-driven rather than the typical "keep them eligible" standard used elsewhere. You see a lot more guys that had left for the NFL hanging around, now, in the Spring and working on a class or two during the offseason. It's a pretty significant culture for the current players, too, as it imparts on them the reality that football is a temp job and, in this climate, you're pretty much required to do something else after your pro career to stay afloat.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:22 am to WorkinDawg
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Guess a lot of these expensive recruiting trips don't include appts with academic advisors.....
I can't say for other programs, but all visits to UGA not only include meetings with the football counselors and a University advisor, but also with a faculty representative. Call it salesmanship of a UGA degree if you want, but they push education hard on visits at UGA. And as they should. This is after all COLLEGE football. Major in Sports Management if you want to keep everything in the athletics family, but you're still going to have to go to class, take a math or two, and pass English and Chemistry before you get to rest on the sports side of things.
I think something a lot of folks misunderstand about the undergraduate degree in general (for all students, not just athletes) is that it has frickall to do with the trivial knowledge learned and practiced in the classroom. Rather, it's all about learning how to live and function as an independent, responsible human being. So, as far as athletes are concerned, I think a lot of people miss the point about the academics-athletics "divide." They're not majoring in housing or business or sports management or whatever else so much as they are majoring in a lifestyle. The same strict regiment they have to live through here on campus is the same they will have to hold themselves to if they hope to succeed on the professional level. And, ideally, they will at least have that udergraduate degree to fall back on when they've played their tour out in the pros should they choose to invest their earnings wisely or even return to Graduate school (and many are doing that).
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:33 am to tylerdurden24
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Lot of that is different now. McWhorter's demolition was symbolic in many respects. A lot of what they're doing in Rankin Smith now is pretty top notch and career-driven rather than the typical "keep them eligible" standard used elsewhere. You see a lot more guys that had left for the NFL hanging around, now, in the Spring and working on a class or two during the offseason. It's a pretty significant culture for the current players, too, as it imparts on them the reality that football is a temp job and, in this climate, you're pretty much required to do something else after your pro career to stay afloat.
If that is the case, then I applaud our people for at least attempting to do the right thing. My real conselor was great. I called her 20 years after I graduated and she still remembered me. She hated what the AD were doing at the time but the Kemp thing and all had a lot of folks on that side mad.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:37 am to tylerdurden24
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Smith announcing Friday.... quote: Guess a lot of these expensive recruiting trips don't include appts with academic advisors..... I can't say for other programs, but all visits to UGA not only include meetings with the football counselors and a University advisor, but also with a faculty representative. Call it salesmanship of a UGA degree if you want, but they push education hard on visits at UGA. And as they should. This is after all COLLEGE football. Major in Sports Management if you want to keep everything in the athletics family, but you're still going to have to go to class, take a math or two, and pass English and Chemistry before you get to rest on the sports side of things. I think something a lot of folks misunderstand about the undergraduate degree in general (for all students, not just athletes) is that it has frickall to do with the trivial knowledge learned and practiced in the classroom. Rather, it's all about learning how to live and function as an independent, responsible human being. So, as far as athletes are concerned, I think a lot of people miss the point about the academics-athletics "divide." They're not majoring in housing or business or sports management or whatever else so much as they are majoring in a lifestyle. The same strict regiment they have to live through here on campus is the same they will have to hold themselves to if they hope to succeed on the professional level. And, ideally, they will at least have that udergraduate degree to fall back on when they've played their tour out in the pros should they choose to invest their earnings wisely or even return to Graduate school (and many are doing that).
That is a good point...actually a great one. The self motivation and time management... The ability to learn, retain, and convey what your learn is a huge aspect of college.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:48 am to Peter Buck
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My real conselor was great. I called her 20 years after I graduated and she still remembered me.
Same boat here..my Athletic Academic Advisor is still a friend of mine. Great guy who helped me out ALOT.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:59 am to LedDawgK
I meant my real, non AD one. She really made a difference in my life.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 6:38 pm to Peter Buck
My advisor was just an oily old jazz musician.
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