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re: Shoulda been a 3peat year

Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:44 pm to
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maybe if we had pressured Milroe like Michigan did we would still be playing.


We definitely did pressure him more in the second half.

FWIW, Milroe played his best game of the season against us. The guy we saw against UM was not the guy we played...dude couldn't hit even the simplest throws against UM. He looked like early season Milroe.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:54 pm to
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It's amazing what they can do when they watch someone else's game film...



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Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 4:04 pm to
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dont know man. when does the luck go against them?


I guess it did on Jan 10, 2022.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34419 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 4:22 pm to
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Our last 2 offenses were good but we won the last 2 national championships due to excellent defense.

Yeah this is incorrect

'21 was a generational defense, '22 our offense carried us
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 4:23 pm
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7780 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 4:34 pm to
I still don't understand how they considered Florida State better then us at 5th to end the season. It just shows they don't know what they are looking at.
Posted by olddawginCa
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:03 am to
Meh, I'll be happy with 3 Nattys out of 4.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:17 am to
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Our last 2 offenses were good but we won the last 2 national championships due to excellent defense.

Yeah this is incorrect

'21 was a generational defense, '22 our offense carried us



Nah GurleyGirl is right. Just because our offense last year was incredible doesn't mean we didn't win with defense. I mean look at the stats:

Scoring D: 5th at 14 PPG (playing 2 more games than teams 1-4 btw)
Rush D: 1st
Total D: 10th (again, 1-2 more games than 1-9)
Opponent 3rd down conversions: 2nd
Opponent RZ scoring: 2nd
Opponent RZ TD scoring: 2nd

You don't need an elite offense if you have a clear top 5-10 overall defense, which we definitely did. There was only 1 real outlier in OSU, who had NFL players littered all over the field. You can certainly argue we won that GAME because of our offense, but I woudlnt' say offense ruled the day for the entire 2022 season. I mean look at the other games:

-High scoring Oregon: 3 points
-Spencer rattler on the road: 7 points
-#1 ranked high flying UT: 13 points (2 field goals until about 5 minutes left in game)
-LSu in SECCG: 10 points at half when we let off the gas with a 25 point lead
-National title game: 7 points

Our 2021 defense was obviously better than 2022, but I would still contend that defense "carried us" both years.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:25 am to
2022 was a great defense and offense and frankly, the offense would have had better stats both years if Smart wasn’t playing chess and eating clock.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:38 pm to
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I guess it did on Jan 10, 2022.

i suppose so.

the injury to jameson williams was certainly very bad luck.

however, the luckiest fricking thing i may have ever seen on a football field was the stetson 20 yard "fumble" that bama accidentally recovered without even trying.

i would chalk that game up as us just being better than them, but i definitely see how bama would disagree and could probably make that same argument in some of our losses.

EDIT: holy shite i dont know why im doing this today and admittedly im only watching clips where we get fricked over, but the 2017 and 2018 games are complete jokes. how the frick do they keep getting away with this?

2017: tyler simmons onside, insane missed facemask, fromm helmet interception

2018: josh jacobs recovers his own fumble in the end zone somehow after losing it just short? wtf is that? rodrigo misses a 30 yarder???? i have zero recollection of that happening, holy shite.

good lord, i have repressed much of 2017 and 2018 (both games technically in 2018) and thank god for it. maybe 5 years from now i will have repressed this 2023 game.

the tua/hurts dynamic which i obviously do remember is beyond sadistic. whoever wrote that script is a sick fricker
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 1:13 pm
Posted by shallowminded
Member since Nov 2012
2732 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:32 pm to
As much as I want to agree, I don’t know if I can..

Did UGA look unstoppable against FSU, YES! But looking how Michigan sized up against Bama and what they were able to do, UGA didn’t! Was it difference in scheme, a little bit, but ultimately Michigan got after Milroe (5sacks in the first half)..
I feel like the first and second level of the UGA defense was the teams achilles heal this year, and Michigan would have exploited that.
Learn from this year, get bigger, stronger, and faster this offseason with some additions from the portal, the UGA defense will be back next year.. now how do you replace Bullard, Smith, and Lassiter on the backend?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:59 pm to
Michigan watched our game and they learned they could confuse him on coverages. The playbook wasn’t as deep with him. They got after Milroe, but he also wasn’t seeing what he liked down field a lot which lead to a sack. Michigan also kept good lanes and kept him contained
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:56 pm to
We made the same mistake that we made in the 2021 SECCG. We schemed to contain and not aggressively attack Young in 21 and did the same thing in the 1st half this year. Our scheme was completely different in the Bama rematch in 21 and we were flustering him throughout the game. Michigan took that approach and it paid off. I really believe we were 10-14 points better than Bama. I didn’t like the way we schemed on defense for the SECCG this year but still could have won had we only given up a FG after the catch that wasn’t a catch and made our FG and not have given them the ball in the red zone with the fumble.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:21 am to
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We made the same mistake that we made in the 2021 SECCG. We schemed to contain and not aggressively attack Young in 21 and did the same thing in the 1st half this year. Our scheme was completely different in the Bama rematch in 21 and we were flustering him throughout the game.


My man.

I make this argument occasionally when the topic comes up but everyoen (specifically bama fans) act like I'm speaking mandarin, or flat out making it up. We played defense a certain way in 14 out of 15 games in 2021, but for some reason in the SECCG we went full derp and fricked ourselves. I am 100% convinced that after losing to them several times Kirby tried to play 4d chess and ended up screwing us. I guess his thought process went like this: "Ok, saban is a genius and they have an army of analysts that have seen what we've done on defense for 12 games. They're goin to look at that and try to exploit it by doing [ABC]. So...if they are going to do ABC, to combat that we'll then need to do [XYZ]!" Only it turns out that as is usually the case, the other team didn't do ABC at all they just played their normal game, so our defense doing XYZ didn't combat anythign it just looked ridiculous. Jordan Davis and the DL was standing straight up at the snap and just hanging out and we played a lot more zone. Idk why we were so terrified of bryce's scrambling considering he was absolutely lethal as a passer. Then as you mentiond, in the natty we just got after him and played like we had all year and prettymuch stoned them.

Milroe is a LITTLE different. He can't throw for shite unless it's a bomb, has trouble reading the field, but is dynamic as a runner. We also say him copmletely torch teams and practically single handledly win games for bama by running. So I guess i kinda get spying him, but two spies? Seems kinda overkill.

quote:

I really believe we were 10-14 points better than Bam


I do too even though ti sounds like sour grapes. I don't think michigan or washington would hang on the same field with us. But alas..we had our chacne and didn't take advantage. People will point to the no call (which is truly BS) but we also missed a FG we should've made and handed them the ball inside our own 15 too. Oh well...after 2021 and 2022 I don't really sweat losses much anymore lol
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:35 am to
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Michigan also kept good lanes and kept him contained


And obviously didn't waste someone spying Milroe because of this.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:27 am to
You don’t technically have to spy of you hold your lanes
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:28 am to
Pretty much my point.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2479 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:19 am to
Glad someone else had the same analysis. I felt 21 SECCG vibes after a couple of series during this years game. We did adjust by the 3rd quarter but we should have been up a TD or more at half. Below is what I wrote on the eve of the 21 re-match against Bama.

sted by Dirk Dawgler online on 1/6/22 at 8:28 am to TexanTiger68
The result will hinge on Kirby’s defensive approach. He got double out thunk by the Master in the last game.

Saban’s likely thought process planning for the last game: Kirby is going to drive full speed with the d-line into the gaps and try to wreak havoc with blitz pressure from all over, just like he had done all year. Therefore, we challenge our OL and give extra help blocking with RBs and TEs.

Kirby’s actual plan: we need to contain Young and avoid him burning us with his mobility and play DBs off the ball to keep everything in front. We will not rush the gaps with our DL but will maintain gap control and clog escape lanes for Young. Pressure will come from the LBs slipping through cracks in the A and B gaps.

What happened: Bama and UGA displayed a dance show at the LOS and Sabans prep for the all out rush with extra protection played out better than even he could have expected. UGAs rush was almost always stoned due to the dance show congestion and the extra protection. Young had even more time to find his excellent WRs running rampant through UGAs zone coverage.

Double backfire on Kirby. Pure fortune for Saban that he prepared for one scenario that ended up being even more beneficial with Kirby’s complete 180 turn from what had been effective all season. One can review any UGA game (most recent being Michigan) to see the stark contrast in scheme between what they did all year vs the SECCG. IMO, the UGA staff bunked that game plan by overthinking it instead of trusting what had worked all season.

This game: UGA must employ what worked all year to have a shot at winning. They will have to go all out with the front 7 and play man and press far more often. If Young can beat what you do best, tip the cap. But make him do it and don’t give him the time to sit in the pocket and pick your average DBs apart. We all know thatYoung is exceptional, make him prove it once more against what you do best.
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