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"Scathing" article on OL play

Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:06 pm
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During the Richt era all positions sans the offensive line unit has good to elite level talent. 1st round selections to the QB, RB, and WR positions. Not out of line to say UGA is "Tight End U" with the solid talent developed to the NFL.

The Oline has been mediocre at best. UGA is at the level of UK when it comes to talent and level of play there which is a deep mystery. Richt likes to do things his way trying to achieve an elite level opposed to doing whatever it takes. It's starting to wear thin. I think Friend is a decent coach but why not get an NFL guy in here that has coached his guys up against various pro bowl defensive linemen and linebackers week in and week out.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30564 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:08 pm to
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UGA is at the level of UK


Ouch (truth hurts)

TUNSIL!!!!!!
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:10 pm to
UGA has had several All-SEC and All-America caliber OL in recent years. IMO the talent has been fine, but obviously it's the development and/or level of play that underwhelms....
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:11 pm to
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I think Friend is a decent coach but why not get an NFL guy in here that has coached his guys up against various pro bowl defensive linemen and linebackers week in and week out.



Again. Someone saying what we need to do. but it is always to say what we need to do. harder to find someone that can do it. I mean, really. If there is an OLine coach that is successful in the NFL, why would he go to a college team to coach the offensive line? He MIGHT to be offensive coordinator..but why go down a level in coaching for a similar position? because he is tired of making NFL money?

However, he has a point. The OLine hasn't been as good as past teams. Hopefully Friend will get it turned around. It will take more than one year. I think last years OLine was improved...and I think before the year is out this years will be considered good.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40044 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:11 pm to
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I think Friend is a decent coach but why not get an NFL guy in here that has coached his guys up against various pro bowl defensive linemen and linebackers week in and week out
Because we won't spend that kind of dime on one.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:15 pm to
An O-line coach needs to be along the same line as Sgt. Hartman from FMJ because you have to teach and motivate a bunch of disgusting fat bodies.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:18 pm to
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An O-line coach needs to be along the same line as Sgt. Hartman from FMJ because you have to teach and motivate a bunch of disgusting fat bodies.


Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:29 pm to
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Again. Someone saying what we need to do. but it is always to say what we need to do. harder to find someone that can do it. I mean, really. If there is an OLine coach that is successful in the NFL, why would he go to a college team to coach the offensive line? He MIGHT to be offensive coordinator..but why go down a level in coaching for a similar position? because he is tired of making NFL money?


NFL coaches get fired every year. Wild guess I would surmise 4-5 a year are let go. Maybe 1 or even 2 OL coaches might get sick of moving around all the time or have the threat finding another gig being under an incompetent NFL head coach that is on thin ice. Some may even feel they could parlay a college OL position into a head coaching gig someday.

I understand the NFL is a fraternity but surely UGA can do better than a guy from a small school. I like Friend but we would know if he was the real deal by now, still may be or not. It didn't take BVG a few years to get things sorted out. He performed shortly after being hired and helped the program win two SEC titles off the back of his defense.

This post was edited on 9/3/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:32 pm to
K. Gates plays like Pvt. Pyle. To many jelly donuts in the footlocker!
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:36 pm to
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K.Gates plays like pvt. Pyle.


"Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?"
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86519 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:37 pm to
I'm not going to try to overhype our OL from 2001-present, because they have been very underwhelming. But we have had some great ones (units) and some great individuals during that time. For whatever reason they seem to be few and far between, but it's not like we haven't EVER been good since Richt has been here.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 2:26 pm to
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NFL coaches get fired every year.


And why do they get fired? because they are so successful?

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Some may even feel they could parlay a college OL position into a head coaching gig someday.


Doesn'rt happen. or I have never heard of it happening. Typically it would go from OL to Offensive coord. to head. but MOST head coaches come from Defensive Coordinator positions. But I don't ever recall an Offensive Line coach being promoted to head coach.

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do better than a guy from a small school.



Don't knock small schools. Many on here have called for head coaching change, going from Richt to Strong of Louisville, Patterson of TCU....a lot of small colleges have coaches that do very well on the big stage.

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I like Friend but we would know if he was the real deal by now,


Maybe I think it would take more than one year, though. I saw what I thought was improvement last year, and I think we will see improvement this year. Just a feeling, though.

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It didn't take BVG a few years to get things sorted out. He performed shortly after being hired and helped the program win two SEC titles off the back of his defense.
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BVG was the exception to the rule. Wish we still had him. He did a great job, though, didn't he?
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 2:27 pm to
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UGA has had several All-SEC and All-America caliber OL in recent years. IMO the talent has been fine


I disagree. One of our fans on the old dawgrant compiled an average star/recruit ranking by position over like a 5 year period that clearly showed that the average ranking of our recruits on the OL has been significantly lower than at any other position on the team. We often miss on top OL recruits and Theus is the first 5 star OL I can remember ever coming to Georgia. It seems to be a lack of priority for CMR but for whatever reason we have historically lacked quality depth on the OL.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 2:35 pm to
Agreed! I sure do miss the days of the Stinchcombs, Gilles, Boling, Moon Pie Wilson, Jimmy Harper, Guy McIntyre etc....we've had some great ones over the years. Had some good ones recently...but not as consistently as back in the day.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 3:03 pm to
Sturdivant was a complete stud and a 5 star...too bad
injuries killed his career. I believe Max Jean was a 5
star but can't remember.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58919 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 3:07 pm to
We have definitely had some good ones!
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 3:10 pm to
Also signed Benedict out of Bolles who transferred to VT. Top 50 OL and one of the top prospects in Florida.
This post was edited on 9/3/13 at 3:12 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 3:18 pm to
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Sturdivant was a complete stud and a 5 star...too bad
injuries killed his career.


Sturdivant and MAX JEAN-GILLES were both 4 stars according to Rivals: LINK He was part of the '07 class and yea, he had little positive impact due to injuries. Here's the link for Max Jean: LINK

And of course Max Jean was in the '02 class when we were more competitive early in Mark's career. And it's not like we haven't had some good individual OL scattered over the years; the problem has been overall lack of talent as a group which hurt those teams as a whole. There's no doubt in my mind that we could have won a NC with Stafford, Moreno, AJ Green and Co. if we had had a better OL and a decent defense. We just don't seem to be able to get all the pieces in place.
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 9/3/13 at 3:24 pm to
This is a stupid article and a stupid post.

Georgia scored 35 points. That should have been enough to win the game.

They have the best offensive line in the SEC. They sagged during the middle of the game due to crowd noise.

You can not name a team in the SEC that has a better OL than Georgia. Did you see how bad Bama's OL performed against Virginia Tech?
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