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re: Richt gets no love...

Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15659 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:07 pm to
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Top 5 coach in football? Nah, probably not. But he deserves a shite ton of respect for what he does.


He is 75-73 as a head coach in his career. He was ran out of town at Ole Miss after he refused to fire his assistants and never got past being a middle tier program after so many seasons at Ole Miss. He was nothing more than underwhelming even after having Eli Manning a future Super Bowl winning QB. Mark Richt's resume takes an utter shite on this dudes resume and Richt isn't even in this guys Top 14. Blasphemy. It literally took him 6 years to post a winning season at Duke and that is after years of winning 3 or 4 games max and he could never win in the SEC. I don't understand the adoration with this guy. He makes solid QB's but has proven that he has issues building defenses. I wouldn't put him on any high tier coaching list because he has proven nothing as a head coach outside of not being able to put away Texas A&M after building a HUGE lead.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86450 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:28 pm to
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He was ran out of town at Ole Miss


after winning 10 games. Dumbest move they've ever made.

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after he refused to fire his assistants and never got past being a middle tier program


it's ole miss for shite's sake. They ARE a middle tier program and that's all they'll ever be.

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He was nothing more than underwhelming even after having Eli Manning a future Super Bowl winning QB


If you're gonna go that route, people should give richt more shite simply because we had a #1 pick at QB and never won the east

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Mark Richt's resume takes an utter shite on this dudes resume and Richt isn't even in this guys Top 14.


Yeah I agree richt should be on there. I also agree that silly, trivial lists like this don't matter as it's just one dude's opinion. I haven't even seen the list or clicked the link...I was simply saying Cutcliffe is a very good coach.

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It literally took him 6 years to post a winning season at Duke


lol...that's actually quite an accomplishment.

In the last 50 years of duke football (not including cut), they had only won more than 6 games in a season 3 times, 2 were spurrier. Last year cut won more games in a season than ANY OTHER SEASON in duke history. At duke! It would be akin to someone taking south carolina to the final 4 in basketball.

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I don't understand the adoration with this guy.


his track record against us speaks for itself, that's all I need to know (or care about).

UT OC from 93-98
ole miss head coach til 04 (nothing noteworthy)
UT OC 06-07

We beat UT 4 out of richt's first 5 times. A few of them we were easily in control throughout. Cut comes back for 2 years and flat out, absolutely embarasses our defense back to back years. Year after he left we held them to 14 points.

Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:34 pm to
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longevity is not appreciated like it use to be


Longevity, in and of itself, isn't really anything to celebrate. It shows nothing on its face: is someone staying on because they are successful; or because they are simply well-connected; or because they aren't really that good, but there's no better option to replace them; or because they are the most affordable; or because higher-ups fear change; etc., etc., etc.

You can make a decent argument that Richt's longevity is because of his success - he's had a lot of winning seasons, and the program is generating a lot of money.

But, you can make an equally decent argument that his longevity is because of some other reason like connections or fear of change - for all of his "success," he's never won a title during the same span when his peers have racked up a bunch of them; there have been lagging problems with discipline, execution, and conditioning throughout his tenure; plus, his teams always seem to be in the process of rebuilding without ever actually getting there.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86450 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:40 pm to
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You can make a decent argument that Richt's longevity is because of his success - he's had a lot of winning seasons,


yes...

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you can make an equally decent argument that his longevity is because of some other reason like connections


what kind of connections? Like he has dirt on someone so that's why he's still here? That's laughable.

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or fear of change


That's a very valid reason, IMO. For every Nick Saban out there, there's about 10 derek dooley or ron zooks

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he's never won a title during the same span when his peers have racked up a bunch of them;


We obviously all want a title. That doesn't have anything to do with his longevity. And his peerS aren't racking up a bunch, Nick Saban has racked up a bunch.

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there have been lagging problems with discipline


That's stupid

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execution


liiiikee....not scoring a TD on every play? Every cfb team ever struggles with execution..in every game. I'd say our numbers will show we've executed pretty darn well since he's been here. Defense? That's another story, and I believe 95% of dawg fans are happy that our most recent 'lack of execution' problem is no longer here.

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and conditioning


also silly.

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plus, his teams always seem to be in the process of rebuilding without ever actually getting there.


Every team except bama under saban and UF under meyer has had to "rebuild" do some extent. And hell even UF in 07 lost 4 games. Unless your roster is filled to the brim with 4 and 5 stars like bama's is now..there will be growing pains. Hell look at LSU last year.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:44 pm to
Yea, Richt should be somewhere in that list but not sure he deserves top 10. There's likely a prevalent opinion that Mark has done less with more. I don't necessarily agree with it but I think that's the perception. My problem with that perception is I think it's based on the talent we have recruited and not the talent on the field; there is a significant difference between the two.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:44 pm to
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Steve Spurrier won at Duke


And he's one of the best coaches in the country right now. I fail to see this as an arguing point.

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Duke right now is merely an eye brow raiser not something to hang your coaching credentials upon


It absolutely is. Getting 9 wins at Duke is an incredible accomplishment.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:37 pm to
The Dantonio hate in this thread makes me sad. I'd murder a family of innocents for him. And Narduzzi.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:39 pm to
I don't hate him, I just don't think he should be ranked as high as he is.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:45 pm to
He became one of my favorites when he beat ND on the fake FG. I just really like him and if he goes to USCe after Spurrier I am going to drink myself to death.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25660 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:46 pm to
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The Dantonio hate in this thread makes me sad. I'd murder a family of innocents for him. And Narduzzi.

Damn Yankee....
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:47 pm to
But he's such a good yankee
Posted by The7Sins
Truth or Consequences, New Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1178 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Coach Richt is not even in the top 14 among head coaches. I think he deserves to be in the top 10!!


No he does not. IMO he should have been fired already. A top 10 coach rarely deserves to be fired.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:52 pm to
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I'd murder a family of innocents for him.

If you look closely, you can almost see the decaying of society accelerate........


Signs and Wonders.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:00 pm to
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IMO he should have been fired already.


And replaced with?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44763 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:49 pm to
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Dantonio and Cutcliffe


Dantonio deserves 100% to be on that list. He took over a flaky program that always collapsed under the immortal John Lol Smith and has built it into a powerhouse. At the end of last season, they may have been the second best team in America, despite being the second program in a weak HS football state. He will never beat Michigan and OSU in recruiting wars because they're Michigan and OSU, but his teams kick their asses on the field. He's been mentioned as a possible successor to Spurrier at USCe, and as a UGA fan, I want no part of playing a Dantonio team every season. MSU will always have a nasty, mean, physical defense as long as he's around, and they'll always have a chance to win the Big 10.
Posted by Remington Dawg
Irmo, S.C
Member since Sep 2012
1457 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 7:33 pm to
14. Riley, (NO) 88-73 record and could get fired this year. 6. Briles, 78-60, all offense and not a damn bit of defense, and 4. Shaw, good coach but took over a steam engine that Harbaugh built and has not prove enough by himself. I really hate the guy but to have the Old Ballsack behind David Cutclife is crazy. The Ballsack built two progams into powerhouses.
Posted by Leghumper
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Dec 2003
2330 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:48 am to
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Coach Richt is not even in the top 14 among head coaches. I think he deserves to be in the top 10!!


did you watch our last bowlgame?

he is mid SEC at best and maybe soon to be passed by the UT HC
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86450 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:51 am to
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IMO he should have been fired already


when?
Posted by Casper the Dawg
Warner Robins, ga.
Member since Jan 2014
376 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:03 pm to
We lost the bowl game because the players didn't feel like playing in it. They had NC dreams when the season started, and without the injuries they had a shot of being there. They didn't give a shite about playing the cornhuskers, and we still almost beat them with half arse effort. Richt's major fault is loyalty, he gives his coaches a chance to prove themselves instead of giving them the boot. Imagine if your boss dropped your arse for having a bad season. He sounds like an awesome boss, just sucks that we haven't won the big one. He learns more every year and he's starting to take the bull by the horns and do what is necessary to win. I bet we play for the SEC again soon.
Posted by Charlestondawg
South Cackalack
Member since Oct 2013
976 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:32 pm to
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The programs are so incredibly down in the ACC that winning at Duke right now is merely an eye brow raiser not something to hang your coaching credentials upon


Jiminy Cricket... THIS! If I had a "smart persons" list like Deeprig you would be on it. Effing fantastic sentence. Copy that shite and send it to Hallmark and tell them to make 100 cards because I would buy them all.
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