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re: Recruiting Ranking Comparison UGAvsLSU WR corps
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:06 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:06 pm to djsdawg
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If this is true, you could blame him for knowing his QB is a pre read guy who often throws to his pre read,
Actually you could say this about Fromm in his first year, but he went through his reads a lot more this year.
Not every problem on the team can be blamed on the QB and/or coach.
quote:So if the WRs go into a trot and give up on a play he can run?
Thats one reason it matters a lot to have a Qb who can make things happen with his legs after the initial play is dead.
Maybe, or we could get some WRs who know how to be a WR. no, Fromm isn't a run QB. He got us to the NC game in 2017 without being a run first QB. he is capable, but yes, he needs help, from his WRs and RBs. Every QB does. Burrow does, too. Fields does, too.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 4:23 pm to DawgsLife
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Actually you could say this about Fromm in his first year, but he went through his reads a lot more this year.
Not every problem on the team can be blamed on the QB and/or coach.
The point is he isn’t good once the pre read is covered.
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So if the WRs go into a trot and give up on a play he can run?
IF they give up like you claim, they would do it less so if they were confident in their qb creating on the move. Fromm isn’t good on the move.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:56 pm to FooManChoo
Pretty often in my mind. Fromm has never seemed to get a good grasp on where to put the ball for him. Frequently even when they connect, Fromm tackles him with the catch, leaving no ability to get YAC (this isn't isolated to DRob, but seems more noticeable with him).
It's possible that this could be a byproduct of DRob not running precise routes, but given that it happens with other receivers pretty often as well, it would seem that Fromm has a decent share of the blame for that.
It's possible that this could be a byproduct of DRob not running precise routes, but given that it happens with other receivers pretty often as well, it would seem that Fromm has a decent share of the blame for that.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:22 pm to fibonaccisquared
Fromm isnt pinpoint accurate.
He isnt drew brees or Russell wilson.
It isnt an accident that his best pass catchers are basketball players that get 50/50 balls and contort for backshoulder catches.
They need the range to catch passes that more often than not just seem to be thrown out there. George Pickens and Brian Herrien make great catches (fromm isnt making great throws).
He isnt drew brees or Russell wilson.
It isnt an accident that his best pass catchers are basketball players that get 50/50 balls and contort for backshoulder catches.
They need the range to catch passes that more often than not just seem to be thrown out there. George Pickens and Brian Herrien make great catches (fromm isnt making great throws).
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:26 pm to djsdawg
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Too bad our QB cant hit an open robertson in stride for a td. I imagine Robertson would look like a badass with Fields at QB.
So it comes back to the reality that the guy people thought would evolve into UGA's version of Saban can't see the forest for the trees.
Lets the guy with all the physical tools and higher ceiling leave because he likes the game manager who he's trained to not take risks.
If Kirby isn't looking at Fields and looking at Fromm and realizing he made a huge mistake, he may be too stubborn to adapt.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:30 pm to Lucius Clay
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If Kirby isn't looking at Fields and looking at Fromm and realizing he made a huge mistake, he may be too stubborn to adapt.
If he’s spending anytime thinking about it I’d say he’s wasting cycles. Can’t undo past decisions.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:32 pm to Dawgfanman
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If he’s spending anytime thinking about it I’d say he’s wasting cycles. Can’t undo past decisions.
But he can learn from them. We hope.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:32 pm to djsdawg
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Blaylock is very good. Bad throw led to him getting hurt.
Fromm's high throw made him come down with extended leg instead of a slight bend?
Blaylock's injury was non-contact and had nothing to do with Fromm's throw. It's not like a slant that led him into a skull thump. It was an incredibly safe throw for Blaylock.
There is PLENTY to gripe about Fromm and I'd agree with alot of it this season.
But to say he's in any way responsible for Blaylock's ACL injury is (1) ignorant (2) malicious (3) lecherous.
What in the frick is your problem, a-hole?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:34 pm to Lucius Clay
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Lets the guy with all the physical tools and higher ceiling leave because he likes the game manager who he's trained to not take risks.
Was Kirby supposed to chain him up out in the shack in the cotton field?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:37 pm to Lucius Clay
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But he can learn from them. We hope.
He can. I think he should’ve played Justin more last year or redshirted him. I think if he’d stayed we would’ve switched QBs at some point this year and if Fields did well Fromm would’ve lost the job. No one will ever know. But the chance to bench Fromm and start Fields over him never really presented itself last year. Fromm played like crap at LSU, maybe that’s the one time it sortof did. But he bounced back.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:41 pm to deeprig9
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Was Kirby supposed to chain him up out in the shack in the cotton field?
Nice imagery. No, he needed to play him far more. Not bring him in for a couple of obvious QB running plays per game. Should have even gone so far as a platoon system, even if it caused some issues. Sometimes you gotta invest in the future.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:42 pm to Dawgfanman
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I think he should’ve played Justin more last year or redshirted him.
Justin was supposed to redshirt last year but Stetson Bennett transferred to junior college so we only had 2 QB's on the roster so Fields had to get reps, so no redshirt.
It was shite situation, not a bad decision.
Remember, Fields only started 1 season of HS football as QB before coming here. He had tons of potential and upside, which we see now, and we knew then, but he decided he wanted to leave. I assure you Kirby all but sucked his dick to make him stay. It's not like Kirby kicked him off the team.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:17 am to deeprig9
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Fromm's high throw made him come down with extended leg instead of a slight bend?
Pretty much.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:20 am to Dawgfanman
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the chance to bench Fromm and start Fields over him never really presented itself last year.
The slow Fromm starts in September 2018 sec games provided plenty of chances to insert the backup to see what he could do. Kirby chose not to give him the chance to steal the job from Fromm. Hell, even after Fromm got his shite together vs Carolina, he still didn’t let Fields do his thing, and we know that pissed fields off.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:56 am to Peter Buck
If you can’t contribute to a discussion, it’s better for you to sit it out so you aren’t leaving a trail of worthless shite in your path.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:42 am to deeprig9
FWIW, I backed it up and replayed it myself because I had just been talking to my wife about Fromm's tendency to tackle receivers with off-target passes, but I didn't see anything about that one that really "caused" the injury. Without going back to the clip, I seem to recall it being slightly behind, but the landing was really just unfortunate timing/positioning, rather than anything Blaylock had to do in order to make the reception.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:44 am to FooManChoo
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How many times, specifically, has D. Rob been missed like that in his career at UGA?
At least three times he was missed on open TDs. He was missed countless other times as an open receiver, either with an inaccurate pass or Fromm simply not finding him when he was that open.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:45 am to fibonaccisquared
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I seem to recall it being slightly behind, but the landing was really just unfortunate timing/positioning
It's hard to blame Fromm for an injury, but the pass was high and slightly behind him. If it was more accurately he likely doesn't have to jump and come back down on an awkward landing.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:47 am to HTDawg
If I remember correctly, the pass did have to get up and down over the linebackers.
At some point, we just need to let things go regarding the physics of trajectory and reception point.
At some point, we just need to let things go regarding the physics of trajectory and reception point.
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