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Quietly… Mike White assembling a pretty good B-ball squad.

Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Kneehigh
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:09 pm
Got a commitment from a 4 star PF today KyeRon Lindsay… top 80 player.

Also got Syracuse’s PF/C Frank Anselem. 6-10 F/C. Extremely athletic and can run floor.

Oklahoma State’s Matthew-Alexander Moncrieffe also committed. Another athletic W/F.

Drez McBride from North Texas. Another quick athletic guard..

Pair all of these guys with Oquendo, Abdur-Rahim, Bridges, Ingram, and Roberts… Pretty damn good.

We also have a possibility of landing Clemson’s Al-Amir Dawes. If that happens, we could go from worst to upper tier in just a few months. As long as White can coach it up which remains to be seen. Definitely a DRASTIC upgrade in depth and overall talent. Probably one of the most talented rosters we’ve had in years tbh. There’s also more to come… so who knows?
Go Dawgs!

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:50 pm to
We know what White's ability is, we have uf to measure him off of. Both talent rich states. frick Tom Crean.
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 7:22 pm to
I would really like Georgia to be decent in basketball. Here's hoping.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 7:34 pm to
White has done an incredible job if you really look at it. We have 2 spots left and there’s still some really good prospects available. I also hope Wright reconsiders and comes back… if so… that would leave 1 spot open.

Edit: Weight committed to Oregon State… frick. I liked him. Bummer.
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 8:10 pm
Posted by agentoranj1990
Mableton
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 11:45 am to
We only have one way to go(up)because we were literally in sub-basement B of the cellar. I like White from his interviews. From what he said in the interviews it seems like he and Brooks get along and are on the same page. I think at worst he has similar success as Fox did. If he does have a similar record to Fox then we know UGA is the problem.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:27 pm to
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. I think at worst he has similar success as Fox did


If this was pre-2018 I'd say his worst case floor would definitely be higher than Fox

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If he does have a similar record to Fox then we know UGA is the problem.



People don't realize how much the portal has altered the landscape of college athletics. Crean is literally the first coach in our MBB history to have to deal wiht it. I assure you if the portal existed under mark fox, all of our best players would have bolted after 1 year as well like they did wiht crean. I dont' think it's fair to judge Coach B against Coach A when Coach B has the potential of literally his entire roster leaving for another school in the offseason while Coach A didn't have that issue.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:32 pm to
I still don’t think the Tom Crean hire was a bad hire based on the time situationally.

A hardass coach who recruited halfway decent. The issue was, once the portal became a thing, all the players wanted to leave that coach when otherwise would have been stuck on the team.

Imagine our team last year with all the transfers we lost. They might have actually been decent.

Should his coaching style maybe have been less of a hardass and he should have adjusted? Yes. But I don’t entirely fault him for the transfer portal situation.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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86438 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:44 pm to
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I still don’t think the Tom Crean hire was a bad hire based on the time situationally.


At the time, in the moment, it was a home run hire. I couldn't have been happier. We have the benefit of hindsight and realizign that it was a total disaster, but at the time it was outstaindg. It was kinda similar to Mimai hiring Richt in football. We all know now that it didn't really work out well but at the time miami people were like "holy shite, this guy is better than anyone we've had in a while I can't believe we got him"

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Should his coaching style maybe have been less of a hardass and he should have adjusted? Yes. But I don’t entirely fault him for the transfer portal situation.


crean is an odd guy and definitley a hardass, but if you're gonna be a hardass in the portal era you better be winning. Which we didn't. I really hate the portal. Even when we benefit from it.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:51 pm to
Crean should have been fired for cause when he ran his team off. The University should have opened an investigation into why an almost entire team left at once.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:53 pm to
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Crean should have been fired for cause when he ran his team off. The University should have opened an investigation into why an almost entire team left at once.




did you not read anything else ITT? Players left because for the first time in literally the history of sports they were allowed to with zero penalties or repercussions. When your team is terrible and the coach is a butthead, it's pretty much a given that everyone is gonna leave.

Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 3:14 pm to
He was underperforming before the open portal. His cornerstone recruit was paid handsomely by us. frick that guy.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 3:20 pm to
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He was underperforming before the open portal. His cornerstone recruit was paid handsomely by us. frick that guy.


I'm not defending him as a coach, or as a person really. I'm simply saying that "his whole team left!" doens't carry a lot of weight since no coach in the history of basketball has ever had to deal with that being an option. LSU lost 10 guys to the portal this year too, btw.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 3:23 pm to
Right, but its still the coaches job to keep the team he recruited....
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 5:31 pm to
LSU’s coach was fired and there was a huge scandal there. Our Coach was just an a-hole.
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2114 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:59 am to
I noticed the same thing. I have a good feeling about White.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:39 am to
Dawes to Seton Hall…
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42466 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:13 am to
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Right, but its still the coaches job to keep the team he recruited


Of course. That’s not what WG is saying. It was a first in the history of college basketball. Crean’s personality combined with our struggles made those guys want to leave. If we didn’t have that first in the history of the sport, I legit think we could have competed for a tourney spot this year.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:02 am to
Creating an atmosphere that made them all want to leave at once certainly deserves to be investigated. Just like a boss that keeps running off talent, i want to know why they left and if he harbored a toxic enviroment which i would say he likely did given the two coaches end up in a fist fight....
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:58 am to
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Creating an atmosphere that made them all want to leave at once certainly deserves to be investigated.



Investigated? Seriously? They left becuase we are a crappy program and the coach is a jerk. Bottom line, there's nothing more to read into than that.

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i want to know why they left


we sucked. They wanted to go somewhere that didn't suck.

Did you see that Wichita State's whole team left this year becuase they wanted more NIL money? Should investigations be opened there?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:14 am to
They left at least in part to what I am told was a toxic culture. Within the program. If Crean had some buy in from his players, he could have held on to some, if not most 2021 players and had a solid team this year. His interaction with our old PG before the KY game told us a lot. What happened at UGA was not normal. It was a direct result of how the coach handled the team.

In the future, the coaches who build a good culture will hold onto more players, not all… not as many as pre portal…and when they lose a player, they will likely backfill that spot with a player who is as good or better than the one who left.

Crean was an embarrassment and set us back even more than where we were when he got here. The portal will make it easier for White to rebuild.
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