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Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:12 pm to Hobnailboot
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:12 pm to Hobnailboot
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If Stetson starts vs. Florida or Bama, we are in trouble.
Bennett was two touchdowns ahead of the Gators before he sprained his AC joint.
My only worry is the possibility that both Daniels and Bennett become injured. I don't want to see Beck against Florida or Alabama.
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Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:14 pm to Whiznot
This may very well be why JT is being babied a little.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:21 pm to FooManChoo
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Bennett is the best option we have, and he's not necessarily a bad one.
Agree with you on most points. However, Bama would gameplan to stop the run with Stetson at QB and force him to sling it. That is not a situation I want to be in. JT behind center forces them to be honest on D.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:50 pm to Sandwich
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the fact that neither Beck nor VG can move into that role, to me, is disappointing from a development standpoint.
I don't get why this is disappointing at this stage, at least for Vandagriff. He is a true freshman and there were others (namely Bennett) who have been around the program for ages. Smart places a huge premium on knowing the offense and minimizing mistakes. Why would we even want Vandagriff moving into the backup role at this stage? Bennett gained from being the scout team QB and hopefully the same will be the case for VG.
As for Beck, I can understand the concerns. It's still early on but there were apparently some red flags about motivation and attitude last season. Smart says he has matured a lot but who knows.
Daniels is reportedly a film geek and wants to understand the game inside and out. That's a trait he apparently had going way back. Bennett also is very motivated about the mental aspect of the game. I'm not sure about Beck in that regard. Maybe we see a totally different player with Beck next season but at the same time, I could also easily see Beck not even staying if VG progresses and with Stockten arriving. Especially if Daniels returns next season.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:26 pm to Lucius Clay
A lot has gotten lost in the shuffle here...
I get that Stetson is our best option.
I get we ran the ball to expose Arkansas' spread-first defense. I still think we would have thrown more with JT.
I get we are lucky to have Stetson.
What I am saying is the other 2 QB's, whether it be because they are not ready or recruiting rankings were off, or they are unmotivated....whatever the case may be, are concerning to me. Bama tends to have a Heisman finalist yearly.
I just hope when JT leaves, someone can be the guy. Right now, that is not how it looks.
I get that Stetson is our best option.
I get we ran the ball to expose Arkansas' spread-first defense. I still think we would have thrown more with JT.
I get we are lucky to have Stetson.
What I am saying is the other 2 QB's, whether it be because they are not ready or recruiting rankings were off, or they are unmotivated....whatever the case may be, are concerning to me. Bama tends to have a Heisman finalist yearly.
I just hope when JT leaves, someone can be the guy. Right now, that is not how it looks.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:29 pm to Hobnailboot
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Bama would gameplan to stop the run with Stetson at QB and force him to sling it. That is not a situation I want to be in. JT behind center forces them to be honest on D.
But the question from the Beck lovers/Stetson haters is who is backup behind JT, not should it be Stet over a healthy JT.
I've seen nothing from Beck that puts him ahead of Stetson. We can't put in a QB and hope he learns during the SECCG how to be a QB.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:45 pm to Sandwich
Quarterback is the hardest position of all to properly grade. Some kids had great olines and wrs in hs and other didnt.
Arm talent was what caught the coaches eyes with Beck, alot of ex nfl hiys like Jim Kelly were high on his. But college ball has changed since Kelly was involved.
Arm talent was what caught the coaches eyes with Beck, alot of ex nfl hiys like Jim Kelly were high on his. But college ball has changed since Kelly was involved.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:36 pm to lewis and herschel
I get that Stetson is our #2 now. And that is fine. Even if you want to give Vandergriff (sp?l) a redshirt year, shouldn't we be giving Beck some reps in the 4th quarter when we are up by 30? I mean, it's not like JT is durable ... and Bennett is small ... and they are both seniors (or projected not to be at UGA next fall. Getting Beck reps when game isn't on the line seems smart to me
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:39 pm to MacDawg
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I get that Stetson is our #2 now. And that is fine. Even if you want to give Vandergriff (sp?l) a redshirt year, shouldn't we be giving Beck some reps in the 4th quarter when we are up by 30? I mean, it's not like JT is durable ... and Bennett is small ... and they are both seniors (or projected not to be at UGA next fall. Getting Beck reps when game isn't on the line seems smart to me
The only logical answer is that Kirby thinks Stet still hasn't reach his potential and needs more reps, and perhaps we'll need to lean on him more than initially thought, due to JT's lingering injuries.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:51 pm to deeprig9
You want to start creating drops and ints, shuffle the qb1 reps.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:24 pm to lewis and herschel
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JT also played at a highend prep school.
JT played at Mater Dei, a national powerhouse that can go toe to toe with IMG.
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If those schools are run right, small prep schools that recruit should be equal to b8g county schools.
Prince Avenue Christian beating Athens Academy or Holy Innocents isn't exactly on par with Mater Dei beating St John Bosco and being ranked #1 in the nation.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:28 pm to Sandwich
People are so down on SBIV and he keeps proving us wrong. Kid has some wheels on him. Decently accurate and has arm strength. Big game experience and tons of poise.
Carson beck is arse and bandersnatch is a true frosh.
Carson beck is arse and bandersnatch is a true frosh.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:35 pm to crispyUGA
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Prince Avenue Christian beating Athens Academy or Holy Innocents isn't exactly on par with Mater Dei beating St John Bosco and being ranked #1 in the nation.
However, that's not the only thing on his resume. Everyone seems to be forgetting BVG was getting high praise/rankings at the elite camps he went to.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:37 pm to crispyUGA
Point being Prince avenue has the resources to do it.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:44 pm to Brick67
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Everyone seems to be forgetting BVG was getting high praise/rankings at the elite camps he went to.
7-on-7 is a lot different from an actual game. You don't have to read blitzes or worry about being hit by a 325 lb behemoth. Like I said, the kid likely has a ton of talent, but the game is beyond fast for him right now. It's probably moving at lightspeed out there for him.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:49 pm to lewis and herschel
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Point being Prince avenue has the resources to do it.
No, it doesn't. PAC is small private christian school and plays at the lowest level of Georgia high school athletics, Single-A Private. At least schools like GAC play AAA against public schools. The football powerhouse prep schools have BIG financial backers to support big salaries for coaches, top end support staff (nutrition, sports training, conditioning, etc), and facilities. PAC has none of that.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:52 pm to crispyUGA
Most private schools are small. If they can give scholarships to athletes, they can certainly compete at a very high level.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:56 pm to Whiznot
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My only worry is the possibility that both Daniels and Bennett become injured. I don't want to see Beck against Florida or Alabama.
Well in that disaster scenario, you could either throw Vandagriff into the fire or you go with a Hines Ward plan: I read that Brock Bowers was throwing the ball 70 yards downfield in high school and played about five other positions at times. He averaged something like 14 yards/carry as a running back. It wouldn't surprise me if Bowers could pull it off as a QB running a limited offense...that guy's a talent.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:57 pm to Sandwich
Monken's offense isn't exactly easy to comprehend. It's a reason why Arch has UGA up there imo.
Beck should be more ahead of the curve, but it's not like he's an elite prospect. BVG probably is struggling with the offense.
It's also a Kirby factor with these QBs.
Beck should be more ahead of the curve, but it's not like he's an elite prospect. BVG probably is struggling with the offense.
It's also a Kirby factor with these QBs.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 4:47 pm to MacDawg
Beck doesnt have "it". JT aint leaving based on this season.
So BVG and GS will have time to develop.
So BVG and GS will have time to develop.
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