OT: Anyone else here into intermittent fasting with a ketogenic diet?

Tell me more about it.

As a bodybuilder for 15 years I can tell you that the least painful way to lose weight is counting calories.

With KETO you’re getting rid of entire macro group which is carbs. You need carbs, fats, and proteins in order for your body to function properly. Removing an entire macro group is insane to me. Especially if you’re very active where you’ll need to carbs for energy and glycogen replenishment.

As long as you stay within your maintenance calorie range you can eat pretty much whatever type of food you want. Of course I recommend eating healthier as you get to eat a lot more food.

So I say eat your pasta, baked potatoes, bread, beef, chicken, fish, veggies, fruits or whatever. Just be cognizant of the fact that foods higher in fat and carbs are higher in calories. So if you want to eat ALOT you’ll have to limit those....but don’t ELIMINATE them.

Just my take. You can do whatever you want.

Also the only reason you lose weight from eliminating carbs with KETO is because the majority of Americans calories consist of carbs. Take away an entire freakin macro group and of course you’ll lose weight. You’re removing the bulk of your calories.

It’s all about calories in vs calories out. You eat below what you burn you lose weight. Eat above what you burn and you gain weight.

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Been doing it for about 2 months and, the results have been pretty strong. Just curious if anyone else has gotten on the train either for weight loss or just for maintaining their health and increasing longevity.

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It works really well as long as you follow the guidelines. Miss some steps like, low hydration or lack of some form of fiber and stomach pain follows.

I’m getting my fiber and vitamins minerals from vegetables...just very few starches. I get plenty of good carbs and even eat a potatoe every now and then. I also don’t fast every day...I take Saturdays off. I don’t count calories. I eat until I’m full...but I’m on a 23-1 schedule. I’m not getting hungry in between. It just works for me. I don’t think there is a one-size-fits-all way to do things. It may not work as well for some others, but deeprig was right, as you age and have kids and work 60 hours a week...the whole calories in/calories out deal doesn’t work as well with the aging metabolism. At least not in my case.

To a degree...but, what the calories are made up of is definitely important. If you eat 2000 calories of chips and cookies...you will be in far shittier shape with the same level of activity as someone who gets their 2000 calories from vegetables, healthy fats and proteins.

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I’m getting my fiber and vitamins minerals from vegetables...just very few starches. I get plenty of good carbs and even eat a potatoe every now and then. I also don’t fast every day...I take Saturdays off. I don’t count calories. I eat until I’m full...but I’m on a 23-1 schedule. I’m not getting hungry in between. It just works for me. I don’t think there is a one-size-fits-all way to do things. It may not work as well for some others, but deeprig was right, as you age and have kids and work 60 hours a week...the whole calories in/calories out deal doesn’t work as well with the aging metabolism. At least not in my case.

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The honest truth is I was lazy with it last time. I work 3rd shift and picked up a coffee habit while I was on the diet which further dehydrated me. I’m being much more careful with it now, fist sized portions, seeds and nuts and a lot of green foods. A good snack is tuna inside a avocado half with Himalayan Salt and chives. Surprisingly good.

I lost 20 lbs. in 3 months when I stated IM, whole foods, LESS FOOD, and exercise.

You can drop more, lifting weights than you can with cardio. Muscles will consume energy while repairing and more muscle means more calories consumed while resting. Cardio can actually inhibit your weight loss to an extent.

The easiest way to heath is moderation, eat natural foods, and exercise. Keto, Mediterranean, Atkins, IM, going Vegetarian etc. will all work. I've tried them all at one point in time over the last 5 years.

After you get 14 hour fasts down, move to full day or 2 day fasts. Fasting has a lot of heath benefits.

Anyone here do obstacle course races? I sign up for events for motivation. Either I train or I get my arse handed to me. That's how I stay motivated. I have a Green Beret Challenge next weekend

I’ve used different types of keto diets for years to drop weight but have had a had time sticking to it long term. Going long term without beer or other restricted items is tough.

There’s no doubt it’s really good for you if you get your macros right and cans stick to it.

It really isn't about calories in vs calories out. It is about eating right, and losing weight and not being hungry all the damn time.

It is about how your body process the macros, of proteins, fats and carbs. The point of keto is that you eat fats (majority of calories),proteins, and even some carbs (usually less than 20-50g a day), and use the fat as your primary energy source. When most people eat carb heavy foods, they use the glucose as your energy source whereas on keto you use ketones as your energy source, which is more efficient for your brain.

Plus when you go on keto and get used to it, you don't' get those harsh hunger cravings (which IMO are carb cravings). It is even very easy to skip a meal b/c you just aren't feeling hungry. Then when you combine keto with fasting, and you can really start to heal your body.

There was a study that said after fasting for 20-24 hours, males were able to increase their natural human growth hormones by 20x, and women by 16x. Plus many people don't realize how much energy your body needs to break down your foods. That is why most get dog tired after eating carb heavy lunch. So when you fast, your body doesn't have to break down foods in your gutz, so it is able to reallocate that energy to something more useful.

But I'm sure the food industry don't want the majority of people to start skipping meals all the time, and they especially don't want the masses to start cutting back on sugars (carbs).

Also how do people think that eating many small meals or whatever, can speed/slow your metabolism? How do they come up with this logic?