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re: OT: Anyone else here into intermittent fasting with a ketogenic diet?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:15 am to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:15 am to Jefferson Dawg
Also did you know the word “breakfast” means exactly that? To “break the fast”?
So I’m pretty sure we’re only suppose to fast while we’re asleep after dinner until the sun comes back up
So I’m pretty sure we’re only suppose to fast while we’re asleep after dinner until the sun comes back up
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:28 am to Jefferson Dawg
Do you believe humans have had food available 24 hours a day like we do today, or do you think there were time in our development when fasting was part of everyday life? People feel off when they fast because the modern "diet" has made us sick.
For Christ sake, are you saying the greatest bulldog of all time doesn't know what he is doing. HMFW
One of my favorite Ted Talks. Video
There are even doctors who are curing and reversing diabetes with fasting.
Fasting
Fasting
For Christ sake, are you saying the greatest bulldog of all time doesn't know what he is doing. HMFW
One of my favorite Ted Talks. Video
There are even doctors who are curing and reversing diabetes with fasting.
Fasting
Fasting
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 7:37 am
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:46 am to DawgHolliday
All these diets just seems overly complicated. Choose healthy foods. Swap good carbs for bad ones, quit drinking, etc. Get some exercise in. It's simple.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:46 am to deeprig9
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That's all well and good when you are young and/or have a high metabolism. For many people, when you cut the calories, the metabolism slows down to adjust
that's why you don't create a huge deficit. Extreme calorie cuts will destroy your metabolism. Moderation is key. I strongly advise against cutting more than 500 calories below maintenance. Readjust when you quit losing weight.
For example lets say you maintain 207 lbs @ 2700 calories. Cut that down to 2200 and you should lose a 1lb a week. You'll eventually get to a weight you're satisfied with and then all you have to do is find your maintenance calories to maintain that weight.
If you're a huge person..maybe 300 lbs and eat like 4000 calories a day then cut down to 3500, after you quit losing 1 lb a week then you'll have to cut down another 500 calories a day to lose a 1 a week.
If you had cut 1000 from the getgo your metabolism would be destroyed and your body would resist losing the weight.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 8:36 am
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:53 am to DawgHolliday
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the whole calories in/calories out deal doesn’t work as well with the aging metabolism. At least not in my case.
It works that way until the day you die. Your metabolism does slow as you age so that why you adjust calories to adapt.
Calories in vs calories out is just basic science.
But if what you’re doing works for you then hey keep doing it.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:58 am to FlexDawg
There is a lot of truth to this. Fact is you have to eat A LOT of greens, protein and fat to get over 2000 calories and stay below your carb target. Which depending on your size is too large of a reduction and can wreak havoc on your system.
It’s also difficult to get enough fiber as well...which also creates problems.
It’s also difficult to get enough fiber as well...which also creates problems.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:30 am to DawgHolliday
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To a degree...but, what the calories are made up of is definitely important. If you eat 2000 calories of chips and cookies...you will be in far shittier shape with the same level of activity as someone who gets their 2000 calories from vegetables, healthy fats and proteins
You will weigh the same, you’ll just be extremely unhealthy in the inside.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:44 am to FlexDawg
The problem with these FAD diets, like cutting carbs forever, is they are just no feasible long-term.
You might go no-carb, you may use one of the many fad diets but ask yourself, is this the way I want to live for the rest of my life? The answer is probably not.
Eventually life will happen, job change, schedule change, health issues...something will happen and throw you off your game. At that point, can you keep it going?
Best bet is to just take in calories you need. Match what you eat with what you do. If you sit on your arse all day, prob skip the simple carbs. IF you hit the gym for a few hrs a day, then you NEED carbs.
A great way to boost metabolism is weight lifting. The body repairs damaged muscle fibers which boost resting metabolism.
I say stick to a well-rounded diet, calorie conscience, and do cardio AND weight lifting. That kind of weight loss takes a while, but weight stays off when life happens and you cant eat no carbs or get to the gym for a few weeks.
just my 2 cents
You might go no-carb, you may use one of the many fad diets but ask yourself, is this the way I want to live for the rest of my life? The answer is probably not.
Eventually life will happen, job change, schedule change, health issues...something will happen and throw you off your game. At that point, can you keep it going?
Best bet is to just take in calories you need. Match what you eat with what you do. If you sit on your arse all day, prob skip the simple carbs. IF you hit the gym for a few hrs a day, then you NEED carbs.
A great way to boost metabolism is weight lifting. The body repairs damaged muscle fibers which boost resting metabolism.
I say stick to a well-rounded diet, calorie conscience, and do cardio AND weight lifting. That kind of weight loss takes a while, but weight stays off when life happens and you cant eat no carbs or get to the gym for a few weeks.
just my 2 cents
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:47 am to FlexDawg
1. Quality of food matters for general health and performance but 2000 calories of cookies will make you weigh the same as 2000 calories of vegetables. It’s just not ideal.
2. As a bodybuilder if I cut all of my carbs out I would look flat as a pancake as my body would have no glycogen to keep me looking plump. I’d also have a lot less energy to be able to workout. Energy from fats won’t cut it.
3. Your body loses weight ONLY when you cut calories. When you remove your carbs the only reason you lose weight is because carbs contain a ton of calories. This is why I advise not to completely kill off certain food groups. You can lose weight while still being able to eat from every group of the pyramid. No reason to deprive yourself more than you have to.
4. Since this diet doesn’t provide all the essential nutrients, you’d need to take supplements and multi-vitamins. You’d also need to make sure your digestive system works properly because the diet is very low in fiber.
2. As a bodybuilder if I cut all of my carbs out I would look flat as a pancake as my body would have no glycogen to keep me looking plump. I’d also have a lot less energy to be able to workout. Energy from fats won’t cut it.
3. Your body loses weight ONLY when you cut calories. When you remove your carbs the only reason you lose weight is because carbs contain a ton of calories. This is why I advise not to completely kill off certain food groups. You can lose weight while still being able to eat from every group of the pyramid. No reason to deprive yourself more than you have to.
4. Since this diet doesn’t provide all the essential nutrients, you’d need to take supplements and multi-vitamins. You’d also need to make sure your digestive system works properly because the diet is very low in fiber.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:31 am to FinleyStreet
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Swap good carbs for bad ones, quit drinking, etc. Get some exercise in. It's simple.
Welp, I'm out.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:15 am to FlexDawg
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You need carbs
Other than a healthy human body having a built in mechanism to create glycogen...you're right.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 12:46 pm to TrackDawg
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Do you believe humans have had food available 24 hours a day like we do today, or do you think there were time in our development when fasting was part of everyday life?
Have you ever seen a caveman skeleton or a reproduction of one in a museum?
Those dudes were f’n tiny. I’m talking barely bigger than today’s average midget. The reason for this is because they didn’t have the food availability we enjoy today and had no choice but to be hungry a lot.
You people who think it’s smart to fast are messing with natural evolution and your grandkids may evolve backwards now getting tinier and tinier all the way back down to little cavemen-size. All because you saw something on Oprah about fasting and believed it. What the frick, weirdos?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 1:14 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:26 pm to FlexDawg
Dude, I had the best oyster po boy for lunch. The way all those millions of carbs from the thick arse french bread mixed with the carb sauce and the fried greasy oysters was glorious!
I'd originally thought about just having some air and water for lunch in order to get really weak, fog-brained, and miserable....so that my glucose levels would secrete stem cells, but then I was like, frick it, I'm going for it.
I'd originally thought about just having some air and water for lunch in order to get really weak, fog-brained, and miserable....so that my glucose levels would secrete stem cells, but then I was like, frick it, I'm going for it.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:33 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Are you fat?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:49 pm to deeprig9
Not particularly. I mean, right now I'm probably carrying a little more on the gut and the waist than I should. But those are the only real places where I gain weight. I'm built lean for long distance endurance with the ability to store some fat in the middle for emergency energy reserves on day 70.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:04 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Dude, I had the best oyster po boy for lunch. The way all those millions of carbs from the thick arse french bread mixed with the carb sauce and the fried greasy oysters was glorious! I'd originally thought about just having some air and water for lunch in order to get really weak, fog-brained, and miserable....so that my glucose levels would secrete stem cells, but then I was like, frick it, I'm going for it.
STOP!! My wife can’t understand why I’m laughing so hard that I can’t talk...
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:59 am to FlexDawg
quote:There are actual studies done on fasting that shows that your metabolism doesn't get 'destroyed' and in facts gets kicked in high gear. Also there is a difference where most people won't ever partake in an 'extreme calorie cut', like one used in prison camps
that's why you don't create a huge deficit. Extreme calorie cuts will destroy your metabolism. Moderation is key. I strongly advise against cutting more than 500 calories below maintenance. Readjust when you quit losing weight.
. People can successfully fast for weeks on end with no complications. Plus another positive of keto is that you don't get the carb cravings and that is what makes people fail their fad diets. Once you are on keto, you notice that foods make you fuller sooner and you don't get hungry as often and you sure as don't get those ravishing cravings like you will when you are running off of glucose instead of ketones.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:36 am to DawgGONIT
I never discussed fasting. I’m talking about for example a person who eats 2000 calories and then cuts down to 1000 calories right from the getgo. Now if you’re severely overweight you can get away with it....AT FIRST. But for the average person an extreme calorie cut like that WILL fry your metabolism and you will have a harder time losing weight than if you were to have cut calories moderately. I know because I’ve done it, and studies have shown it to be true. There’s many informative articles about it. LINK
Study LINK
Cutting out entire food groups is unhealthy and unnecessary. If you’re eating in moderation then you don’t have to deprive your body. You don’t need to get rid of carb cravings you need discipline.
Study LINK
Cutting out entire food groups is unhealthy and unnecessary. If you’re eating in moderation then you don’t have to deprive your body. You don’t need to get rid of carb cravings you need discipline.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:36 pm to AlaCowboy
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2 sets of 125 ab crunches with 70# weight.
I'm having a hard time seeing how this is possible, unless I'm just exponentially weaker than you (which is entirely possible). You hold 70lbs on your chest and do 125 situps in a row? And then repeat it a second time? And you're 72 years old?
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