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re: OT - Forming a HOA

Posted on 7/7/19 at 11:52 am to
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 11:52 am to
What brought this on? My family has owned this land since 1883. Owned much more that got sold off over the years.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 12:10 pm to
Your family owned land and you’re proud to not have to have neighbors. You racist, bruh.
Posted by Spunky
Member since Mar 2013
10020 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

What brought this on? My family has owned this land since 1883. Owned much more that got sold off over the years


my bad, I forgot you're one of the old ones here and the " I'm just busting your balls" font doesn't show up with AOL dialup. I was just fricking around with you.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 7:54 am to
The four of you should have bought the house yourselves. The new owner wouldn't be answerable to anything done at this late date.

I would avoid a HOA at ALL costs....I will NEVER own a property again in a neighborhood with a HOA. Bad enough to have to deal with the county, city and state....but a bunch of neighbors???frick that!
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3898 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:51 am to
I pissed off the board of my HOA when I stood up in a meeting and told them they should fire the management company for incompetence (the MC rep was present).

The MC decided it was a good and necessary thing for the residents of a starter home subdivision ($120K avg price) to have $450 iron mailboxes. Mind you, this neighborhood is connected to two more higher priced neighborhoods, neither of which have mailboxes that cost more than $100 or so. Plus, they completely mismanaged the budget and had to delay the pool opening for 6 weeks. The only amenity we had and they totally botched it.

My family bought property in Floyd County within 30 days of that fiasco and have never looked back.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:33 am to
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The four of you should have bought the house yourselves. The new owner wouldn't be answerable to anything done at this late date.


Well, we had no way of knowing any of this would/could be an issue; nor do I think going that far is really necessitated. It literally doesn't make a lot of fiscal sense. I assume there is more to the story than they are just "renting" it.

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I would avoid a HOA at ALL costs....I will NEVER own a property again in a neighborhood with a HOA. Bad enough to have to deal with the county, city and state....but a bunch of neighbors???frick that!



I get what you're saying. My in-laws have one, but I don't think it really does much of anything other than collecting dues for street lights and such and a few folks put on socials during the year that no one ever goes to, outside of a handful of people. I could see it being a headache for sure, but figured with only four neighbors to have to work with, it might not be so bad.

All of that said, I'm sure it'll work out and be fine. Only thing we can do is hope for good neighbors at this point and sell if it turns to shite, which I don't expect that it will.

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

I pissed off the board of my HOA when I stood up in a meeting and told them they should fire the management company for incompetence (the MC rep was present).

The MC decided it was a good and necessary thing for the residents of a starter home subdivision ($120K avg price) to have $450 iron mailboxes. Mind you, this neighborhood is connected to two more higher priced neighborhoods, neither of which have mailboxes that cost more than $100 or so. Plus, they completely mismanaged the budget and had to delay the pool opening for 6 weeks. The only amenity we had and they totally botched it.


I don't blame you. And that just sounds like a lot of horse shite and I suppose that's what you open yourself up to if you go that route. I would never have considered something like that, but understand HOAs often get carried away with this stuff.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:44 am to
quote:

I pissed off the board of my HOA when I stood up in a meeting and told them they should fire the management company for incompetence (the MC rep was present). The MC decided it was a good and necessary thing for the residents of a starter home subdivision ($120K avg price) to have $450 iron mailboxes. Mind you, this neighborhood is connected to two more higher priced neighborhoods, neither of which have mailboxes that cost more than $100 or so. Plus, they completely mismanaged the budget and had to delay the pool opening for 6 weeks. The only amenity we had and they totally botched it. My family bought property in Floyd County within 30 days of that fiasco and have never looked back.


We owned a house in a neighborhood with a HOA that was managed by a law firm in Rome (HOA was in Evans Ga.). The house we owned was a rental and was managed by a management firm in Evans. Got a letter from a law firm in Rome that our House in Evans had not paid the HOA fees in 7 years. Never mind that it took them 7 years to discover this...the fees were being paid by the management company that managed the rental. The law firm didn't recognize the name, paid no attention the accompanying correspondence from the management company that the amount remitted was for our address and the HOA on record for that address. They just thought someone was sending them about $1000 a year for several years for no reason...and was depositing the checks!!! It took several months and many hours of phone conversations to convince them the fees had been paid....and to be honest, at the end of the day, I don't think they ever actually believed it they just ran out of energy trying to collect the fees....even though the management company had immaculate records of their paying the HOA fees.

On top of the incompetence the HOA management company could not send any kind of correspondence without mentioning the fact that they were a law firm and could file suit in Floyd county at any time for any reason.....seriously...even to the point of mentioning in the community newsletter that any dispute with the HOA could lead to litigation in Floyd county....It was very strange.

If you want to make a pile of money in real estate development invest in developments without HOAs and market them as HOA free developments...I have never met anyone who wished they had a HOA or prostate cancer.....
Posted by Spunky
Member since Mar 2013
10020 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:44 am to
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And jeez, who woulda guessed at all the SJWs on these boards. I had no idea.


Telling someone they are a cocksucker, because they're a cocksucker isn't a SJW, cocksucker.


By any chance, would your wife happen to have a haircut similar to this? Because that would make a lot of sense.

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:01 am to
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Telling someone they are a cocksucker, because they're a cocksucker isn't a SJW, cocksucker.


Noted. Now go be a cocksucker elsewhere. I never pegged you for being the type to play a race card in a situation that has nothing to do with race; and yet, here you are. Surprise, surprise.
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
2872 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:35 pm to
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And jeez, who woulda guessed at all the SJWs on these boards. I had no idea.


The truth of the matter is that people hate HOAs because they're a breeding ground for retired fascists who want to tell people what they can or cannot do on their property. That's not always the case, but it is the experience that many people have with them.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:59 pm to
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The truth of the matter is that people hate HOAs because they're a breeding ground for retired fascists who want to tell people what they can or cannot do on their property. That's not always the case, but it is the experience that many people have with them.


I get that now. I have never been in or otherwise associated with one outside of seeing my in-laws deal with it, and theirs never seemed to be all that important or influential. I think they only have one to have socials. I don't personally care too much about what anyone else does with their property. My concern is when what they do with theirs affects mine. It was not my intention to dictate to anyone what they can and can't do beyond the whole rental thing, which I don't really think is all that unreasonable, but maybe it is.

Clearly folks see it as a bad deal, in general, and I get why. It was just a question on my part and the answers (or ad hominem attacks in lieu of them) tell me I should just leave well enough alone.

For those who offered legit considerations, thank you.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:31 pm to
HOA's serve a purpose. The people who have problems with them are the exact people HOA's exist to keep out.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:41 pm to
Mow your grass regularly.
Don't park in your yard.
Don't park in the street except for special occasions, parties.
Don't paint your house hot pink.
Keep your boat in the water.
Don't build a shed in your backyard before running it by the HOA. They'll approve it if you respect their authoritah and it's not a shite shack. Same with fence.

It's pretty basic decent human being stuff.

Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3898 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:27 pm to
If it only covered about half that list, I could be persuaded to accept a HOA.

Who am I kidding? Not a chance in hell I'd ever own property again with a HOA attached.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Who am I kidding? Not a chance in hell I'd ever own property again with a HOA attached.


my current home is my first home and it has an HOA. It was definitely a new experience getting used to them existing but it's really not a problem, and as mentioned it keeps the property value up by keeping down the riff raff. Why exactly are you so vehemently opposed to one?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:49 pm to
You bought a house! Congrats! Where? In Bithchaven? Im finishing off a trop in bhaven now. Eatalianos.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:07 pm to
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HOA's serve a purpose. The people who have problems with them are the exact people HOA's exist to keep out.


I keep my place up just fine and I will never own another property that has a HOA. I just don't need it. I don't care what kind of shite show is next door mine is taken care of and if you don't want to buy it when I put it on the market don't...someone will. I have owned a bunch of houses in Georgia and across the country and I have never had a neighbor negatively impact my lifestyle or property value. Hell, in most of the south a yard full of boats and campers and cars in various stages of restoration is a sign of a successful neighborhood....the quality of the couches on the porch is a much better indicator of the type of neighbor you can expect than the kind of mailbox they have.....
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3898 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:13 pm to
In my experience, they are badly mismanaged and the board is usually comprised of retirees and busybodys who have nothing better to do than ride around patrolling the neighborhood looking for "violations" to impose fines. If the HOA is voluntary, maybe I'd live there; the newer neighborhoods tend to be all mandatory and I ain't doin' it.

Go back and find my first post in the thread; it details my personal experience with a HOA when I lived in my first home.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:18 pm to
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Mow your grass regularly. Don't park in your yard. Don't park in the street except for special occasions, parties. Don't paint your house hot pink. Keep your boat in the water. Don't build a shed in your backyard before running it by the HOA. They'll approve it if you respect their authoritah and it's not a shite shack. Same with fence. It's pretty basic decent human being stuff.


The county or city already controls shacks built on properties, parking, fences and mowing the lawn.

Some of the items listed are subjective and that is the problem. You can't quantify what regularly means....what it means for the old gal the HOA president is fricking and what it means for the old dude who is fricking the HOA presidents ole lady are completely different things.

How about that garage door? Has it been open just slightly longer than it takes to back out and close it or has it been open for a week? All depends on whose garage it is.

Is my occasion special? Mine is, but my neighbors ain't.

Why would I keep my boat in the water when its on a trailer and I use it on several different bodies of water and it cost more than most people's cars???

I just don't need a HOA to keep my property values up and I damn sure don't need them to tell me where to park any of my shite. If you like living like that more power to you but I just don't need anymore people than the county, state, feds and city telling me what to do with my shite.....I'd prefer living next door to a hot pink house with a shite shack in the unmowed front yard than live in a neighborhood where my neighbors are worried about my garage door being opened longer than they thing decorum would dictate...different strokes and all...
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