re: One overlooked item with Newman is with him being completely new to us and likely starting

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Timing is very, very important. You throw most balls where a guy is gonna be, not where he is... in some cases, you throw it before he breaks

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See: almost every ball ever thrown DRob's way... - He and Fromm have rarely been on the same page.

Burrow said he and the other QBs did most of it in an interview but I am sure some was mechanical.

The greater point stands that burrow and lsus WRs would have looked great even in coleys offense because they flat executed.

We flat executed in 2017.

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Burrow said he and the other QBs did most of it

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Sorry,that would be physically impossible to do over the course of 2 months practicing 5 days a week.

Keep in mind that's 10,000 passes CAUGHT X 15 receivers = 150,000.So even breaking that number in half comes to 75,000 passes CAUGHT which equals 333 passes thrown by 5 QB's each 5 days a week over the course of 2 months. This is with the assumption that every single pass is caught.Even if you do it with 6 QB's it comes to 231.This means every single throw is accurate and every single pass is caught in every practice.

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Your post is completely wrong. Utterly.

Catching the ball at that level is a reflex built through repetition.

Before Fromms accuracy went to hell, players you names dropped several passes that were catchable.

A rythem passing game is even more dependent on repetition.

Burrows 10,000 pass catch goal/league he ran with his WRs helped LSU more than any scheme... It is why he made the biggest leap forward ever in under a year without the most highly sough after WRs.

Facts...

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Chill out, man. You're completely missing several things I said while ignoring a bunch of outside factors leading to why I said them.

First, I didn't say not to have a pre-season camp where our QB's and WR's toss thousands of balls trying to sync up.

I was simply trying to rationalize why if we don't do precisely the Joe Burrow/Joe Brady 10,000 rep thing, which we can't entirely because of outside circumstances, that it won't mean we are destined for failure, like you're making it out to be.

We only have ONE EE receiver, and that's Justin Robinson.

Blaylock is coming off a serious injury so he won't be available for such a camp.

Landers and Blount suck, so they're a waste of time.

So at best we're talking about Pickens, Jackson, Bush, and Robertson.

No Rosemy, Burton, Smith, Washington, or McKitty until June at the earliest.

And considering the time constraints on players supervised practices, not only won't we be able to do something like this with all our receivers, or even half of our likely starting quality receivers, but because of obvious time and rules constraints, it won't be physically possible to reach the level of pass/catch goals that Burrow and his receivers did.

SOOOO, I was merely trying to explain it won't be the end of the world if we don't, as evidenced by the fact we have some quality receivers who proved to sync up decently with Fromm even without some 10,000 pre-season goal being reached.

So take it easy, man. Nobody is attacking you. Just trying to tell you it's not really possible and not really fair to infer we must have this type of camp or we're doomed.

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We only have ONE EE receiver, and that's Justin Robinson.

Blaylock is coming off a serious injury so he won't be available for such a camp.

Landers and Blount suck, so they're a waste of time.

So what? LSU had 15;WR's participating it didn't matter if they "sucked" or not...you just don't sit back and not try

[quote]So at best we're talking about Pickens, Jackson, Bush, and Robertson.

No Rosemy, Burton, Smith, Washington, or McKitty until June at the earliest

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So what? You work with who's available and LSU started these Summer workouts in June.

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but because of obvious time and rules constraints, it won't be physically possible to reach the level of pass/catch goals that Burrow and his receivers did.

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LSU found the time to do it but we have "time constraints"
How so?

So if we don't have all our bodies on campus we shouldn't even try do duplicate
what LSU did?

Sorry do not see the reasoning behind this

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LSU found the time to do it but we have "time constraints"
How so?

So if we don't have all our bodies on campus we shouldn't even try do duplicate
what LSU did?

Sorry do not see the reasoning behind this

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Gezuz fricking Christ. What is it with you guys taking snippets of context and running away with wild assertions?

Again, I never said we shouldn't run camps/clinics like this where our QB's and receivers throw/catch thousands of balls and try to get as comfortable with each other as possible.

I think we absolutely should.

But it's not going to be the end of the goddamn world if we don't do precisely what Burrow and his receivers did, so stop acting like we're screwed if we don't duplicate the freaking dream-season of Joe fricking Burrow and LSU.

And part of this discussion was about players starting this immediately with the same LSU specific goals, not just waiting until June, and I was pointing out how if they did start immediately, there would only be like 5-6 possible receivers there, and most of them wouldn't be our quality starters that we're expecting to be the main contributors.

Some of you guys love to argue and be right about shite so bad that it ruins these discussions.

Chill out, folks. We're all friends here.

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If I'm trying to sync up my receivers with my QB's, I'm dedicating that effort to Pickins, Blaylock, Robertson, Jackson, Bush, Tongue, Rosemy, Burton, Smith, Robinson, McKitty, Washington, and Cook.

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But that really wasn't the reason for what LSU did despite what others might think.It was primarily about the receivers and their ability to catch and run precise routes and obviously improve from the previous year.

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mean I'm in a business of making tough decisions and knowing when to cut bait.

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I get that but unless you're gonna process
these guys (which they won't) you gotta at least try to get em better especially Landers.

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save that one touchdown in the Sugar Bowl

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To quote a previous post... That ball caught Landers, not the other way around. He's still a liability with the ball coming in his direction until proven otherwise.

Newman hasn't played with the team yet? You've gotta be joking me? Never even crossed my mind!