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re: Macon Telegraph: "Yet another big loss for Mark Richt"
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:47 pm to TMDawg
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:47 pm to TMDawg
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Yea pretty much this. My big concern is that I think it's more than just Richt. I don't think just replacing Richt would actually change much. And that's not me defending Richt.
It's an Administration and culture problem. If anything, I think Richt has been too good of a soldier by bearing the brunt of the criticism that should really be directed at the higher ups. UGA as a University and a program don't want to commit any more than they have to. Meanwhile, Alabama, Auburn, Texas A&M, etc. are all going above and beyond the normal call of commitment to win. Quite frankly, UGA doesn't have the heart or the interest to play that game. They're running a marathon pace as if there's ever going to be a finish line and as if it's ever going to pay off. They would sooner wait for the world to change around us than to proactively match and, god forbid, exceed what others are doing. We are not a trailblazing program. And we are not going to be.
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Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:52 pm to Damn Good Dawg
I don't disagree with a lot of what Shanks said, but I cannot agree with this
That was the least of my concerns after last night. Richt was obviously smiling about something his son said. I get that some saw that as Richt not being upset with the defeat, but I just don't that see that as being the case. His interaction with his son after the game didn't have a doggone thing to do with the outcome. Shanks has always had this obsession that coaches have to act like Nick Saban by being stoic after games and being nothing short of a jerk on the sidelines during games. That's just not who Richt is and that will never change.
I'll say the same thing I said about a Bill Shanks article written six years ago. Saban's demeanor on the sideline has little, if anything, to do with Alabama winning games. Saban wins because he's an outstanding coach. If Richt ever takes Georgia to the next level, it won't be because he changes the way he interacts with the team on the sideline.
Florida exposed a lot of problems with this football program, Richt going out of character and showing frustration after the game won't fix those problems
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After the game Saturday, they showed Richt walking on the field with his 18-year-old Zach. He had his arm around his son, who looked sad. But then Richt smiled and laughed at something. I was told later that toward the end of the game Richt smiled at something one of the referees said. Richt will think this is no big deal. He was having a moment with his son.
That’s nice. But it was not appropriate for him to be seen smiling on the field after his team had been humiliated. There is a time and place for everything, but that was not the time for him to smile at anything. It was wrong. He should have been as mad as everyone who had just watched his team wet the bed was. Yet they had to see him smile.
That was the least of my concerns after last night. Richt was obviously smiling about something his son said. I get that some saw that as Richt not being upset with the defeat, but I just don't that see that as being the case. His interaction with his son after the game didn't have a doggone thing to do with the outcome. Shanks has always had this obsession that coaches have to act like Nick Saban by being stoic after games and being nothing short of a jerk on the sidelines during games. That's just not who Richt is and that will never change.
I'll say the same thing I said about a Bill Shanks article written six years ago. Saban's demeanor on the sideline has little, if anything, to do with Alabama winning games. Saban wins because he's an outstanding coach. If Richt ever takes Georgia to the next level, it won't be because he changes the way he interacts with the team on the sideline.
Florida exposed a lot of problems with this football program, Richt going out of character and showing frustration after the game won't fix those problems
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:54 pm to tylerdurden24
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And we are not going to be.
And that's the most disappointing part of it. What's funny is it's almost like they don't realize the money they could bring in with a really good championship season. That or they figure they're fine with the yearly money they bring in anyways.
It's not like they'd suddenly have fans with unrealistic standards that expect championships if we happened to win one
The fact that the athletic dept and administration as a whole don't seem to be as invested is a huge deterring factor for me and a big part of why I just can't donate. I'll give to the academic side and I'll go to the occasional game and I'll always passionately follow the team and pull for them win or lose; but the approach is just disheartening.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:54 pm to Sanford&MunSon
He makes the right point. But how many who are tired of it will "be heard" by giving up their Saturday traditions for a year or two? Not many because people talk a big game without following through. Some bitching the loudest would have a stroke if they were not in the stadium at a home game.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:56 pm to Leghumper
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were you around any bama fans during Shula's, Curry's, or Dubose's tenures?
we're pretty normal compared to those psychos..
I'm not complaining or really comparing us to them. We are funny because of exactly what Durden has said. We are as passionate as anyone but we almost grounded to a fault.
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Yea pretty much this. My big concern is that I think it's more than just Richt. I don't think just replacing Richt would actually change much. And that's not me defending Richt.
Now if we talk about the entire AD/administration adjusting their stances on certain things and deciding that UGA football needs to be on par with the other big teams, then I'm up for it.
It's the entire program and administration that needs a change. New blood. Everyone has grown complacent and we can act like Georgia can change their mentality with the same people but it won't happen. But there is at least a chance if Georgia were to change a big cog in the machine.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:56 pm to GaBassFisher92
Saban wins because he is an outstanding general manager that gets whatever he wants from the owners. He makes just as many mistakes in game as any other coach.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 4:59 pm to SoGaFan
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Saban wins because he is an outstanding general manager that gets whatever he wants from the owners. He makes just as many mistakes in game as any other coach.
Yeah, I agree to a point. Saban isn't an elite in-game coach, but there are few that are better than him during the week and it doesn't hurt to have an administration that backs you.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:00 pm to tylerdurden24
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Son, Georgia has the most fickle fans in America.
Can't agree with that. All fans are fickle. Good as your last game.
You want to hear fickle, tough arse fans, listen to the radio talk shows in Phillie, NY and Boston.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:01 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Everyone has grown complacent and we can act like Georgia can change their mentality with the same people but it won't happen
Yea I guess that was my point. It'll still be the same people making any hires so we will get more of the same even if we were to fire Richt. What we need is for one of us to activate the long term plan, become president of UGA one day, and operation DawgRant will finally take hold. Many championships will be had.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:02 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Even with lowered expectations I can't help but hate that we refuse to become more than we are.
Agreed. It is a tough path, but one we have chosen.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:05 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Administration is content with us being mediocre every year unlike other programs who have the balls to roll the dice and change things up.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:07 pm to Goins
Articles in somewhat major instate papers like that have to do wonders for us with recruits
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:18 pm to Chef Leppard
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Articles in somewhat major instate papers like that have to do wonders for us with recruits
As does getting bitched in a major televised game.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:21 pm to FaCubeItches
As does having at least one major flop per season and no championships!
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:22 pm to TMDawg
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This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:22 pm to TMDawg
Is it really the administration?
Before we had Michael Adams and Damon Evans...
Now we have Jere Morehead and Greg Mcgarity...
So really it is a completely new administration.
Here are the changes McGarity implemented:
So I don't understand the administration argument... considering we have completely changed our administration from the past but have the same result.
Before we had Michael Adams and Damon Evans...
Now we have Jere Morehead and Greg Mcgarity...
So really it is a completely new administration.
Here are the changes McGarity implemented:
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Among the many initiatives are implementation of a nutrition program for all sports, greater emphasis on customer service as well as community service, scoreboard upgrades enhancing the in-game experience for guests and patrons in all sports, and development of leadership programs fostering staff development. In addition, he has encouraged the experimentation of new ideas such as moving volleyball competition to Stegeman Coliseum and helping bring a sold-out concert (Jason Aldean, 65,000) to Sanford Stadium for the first time in stadium history. He was also instrumental in development and implementation along with Nike of a new brand identity program which brings consistency in use of colors, logos, lettering and numerals to Georgia sports teams.
So I don't understand the administration argument... considering we have completely changed our administration from the past but have the same result.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:36 pm to Dawgnational
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He was also instrumental in development and implementation along with Nike of a new brand identity program which brings consistency in use of colors, logos, lettering and numerals to Georgia sports teams
resulting in those Power Ranger unis we used against Boise st,
McGerrity has made a bunch of noise...that's all.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:47 pm to Leghumper
It's only the admin's fault to the extent that they refuse to change the coaching imo.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:47 pm to Dawgnational
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So I don't understand the administration argument... considering we have completely changed our administration from the past but have the same result.
Making upgrades that are on par with the bare minimum of other programs isn't changing for proactivity. It's merely changing to be competitive (which is nice, don't get me wrong). However, rarely do you hear about UGA doing something to get ahead of the competition, to gain an advantage in recruiting or in the way we train or prepare athletes. We're getting an IPF because Richt and the fans have finally nagged the admins enough to do it. Foley is finally getting upgraded because the fans and coaches nagged the admins enough to do it. And still Foley is going to remain behind the likes of LSU, Carolina, A&M, Ole Miss, Tennessee, etc. and it'll be at least 3 years before we have a functional IPF at the ready. I think it's less the changes that have been made and more the fact that we have to nag for years just to get changes that only meet and do not exceed the bar set by rival programs.
ETA: There is just a general lack of urgency or desire to be the best relative to other programs, it seems, and that pervasive attitude is frustrating to fans.
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:00 pm to tylerdurden24
We get all the talent we need - and then some - to not get beat by inferior teams. Of course it'd be great if they invested some more in facilities but that is not the reason we lose games we have no business losing. Blaming the admin is a distraction and just scapegoating imo
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