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re: Kirby Smart does not have to coach this year
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:14 am to Walkthedawg
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:14 am to Walkthedawg
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Where did I say that? If saban had come to Georgia instead of lsu, you people would have crucified him for the loss to florida that first year.
Well, you certainly insinuated it when you said Kirby needs time and then gave a run down of Saban's career.
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:14 am to DawgsLife
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Richt was a good recruiter.
Not good enough. Couldn't hang with Bama, LSU, FSU, OSU, etc.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:19 am to Crowknowsbest
Evaluator of talent vs. recruiter
Only knock on CMR, I feel his players were kinda soft.
Only knock on Kirby, he's got the defensive guru lineage but his players look like they don't communicate or even get jacked up during a play
Only knock on CMR, I feel his players were kinda soft.
Only knock on Kirby, he's got the defensive guru lineage but his players look like they don't communicate or even get jacked up during a play
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:21 am to djsdawg
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Apparently. Most were lower borderline 4 stars at best, far from elite talents. This isn't the first staff some of these guys have floundered under. For some, it's the third. That's quite telling.
So, we got lower tier 4 stars that can't catch and run poor routes? I'm learning a lot here... Thank baby Jesus we didn't get lower tier 3 stars who are blind and are missing fingers...
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:22 am to DawgsLife
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everybody talking about one of the kickers we have....Blankenship, I believe and most on here was very excited about him, playing videos etc.
Richt knew he sucked last year
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Go through all the classes to date and see how many already have a kicker signed. Very few, if any. (Although, I realize that we are still a long ways ou
Morgan verbal 12 months before signing day. Walsh 10 months. We tried to get a guy last summer but he didn't choose us.
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Kirby did? I didn't remember
Mitchell wassen. Picked Uga over bama and uf.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:22 am to Chris_topher
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Only knock on CMR, I feel his players were kinda soft.
That's been the rep on Georgia for awhile. So much so that our own player called out his own teammates in 2012.
Not coincidentally, that team became the best UGA team in awhile.
ETA: UGA could really use a Shawn Williams right about now
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 8:25 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:22 am to djsdawg
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Apples and oranges. Big difference between year 1 with another persons players and year 15 with your own players.
But the talent is there. Maybe not to win a championship. But certainly to not get blown out. And, being prepared is on another level.
Look, I am not really being clear. I am not criticizing Smart and saying the team was not prepared, although it does look like I am insinuating it. What I am saying is many on this board crucified Richt for not having the team prepared because we got blown out. Somebody in this thread (RD< I believe?) said he hadn't seen a team so ill prepared since the 90's, I think?
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We saw how far the program had slipped last year, know how much talent was lost from that team, and that further changes perspective.
I'm not arguing that Richt should still be here. Only a couple of people are. You know what a Richt supporter I was, but he is gone, and i have moved on. And yes, I agree that we had hit a plateau with Richt, and was hoping we could get past it.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:23 am to Cobb Dawg
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Some of you motherfrickers like Peter Buck, a grown man who uses a moniker of a washed up soft rocker, need to put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap and get behind the rebuilding that will take at least two seasons.
^^^^^^Guys, you cannot call for someone's head after one loss. Give the dude some time. I agree with this. Chill out, it was bad but if the Richter was still here it would have been just as bad or worse. Get over it. If we upset the Sister Kissers this weekend then all of the Fire Kirby people will be loving him!
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:25 am to Crowknowsbest
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Only knock on CMR, I feel his players were kinda soft.
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That's been the rep on Georgia for awhile. So much so that our own player called out his own teammates in 2012.
Not coincidentally, that team became the best UGA team in awhile.
Finesse teams tend to get that reputation. Richt preferred getting a good mix of passes and runs. Run first teams tend to get a reputation for being tough and hard nosed.
We were more trending towards a run first when Gurley and Chubb came along and our QB situation dried up with Mason and Lambert.
Defensively? That's an entirely different story.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:26 am to Remington Dawg
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it was bad but if the Richter was still here it would have been just as bad or worse.
Really? And you know this how?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:27 am to DawgsLife
And what your not understanding is there is a difference between a 15 year tenured head coach bringing out unprepared teams, to a coach that has 4 games of experience being a head coach.
Kirby is going through a learning period.
But to put last weeks blowout on his shoulders alone is a little asinine. He said back in the summer, the offensive and defensive lines are not up to his standard. And we are seeing that first hand right now.
Richt didn't recruit well of the offensive line, that is a known fact. Now we are dealing with what he left us.
I personally believe we are not all that talented up front, and the coaching staff is doing the best they can with the unit at their disposal.
We can't run the ball bc of a shitty line, and we can't put it all on Eason to win against good teams like Ole miss.
I mean does anyone here really think that Mark would have won the game against ole miss?
Kirby is going through a learning period.
But to put last weeks blowout on his shoulders alone is a little asinine. He said back in the summer, the offensive and defensive lines are not up to his standard. And we are seeing that first hand right now.
Richt didn't recruit well of the offensive line, that is a known fact. Now we are dealing with what he left us.
I personally believe we are not all that talented up front, and the coaching staff is doing the best they can with the unit at their disposal.
We can't run the ball bc of a shitty line, and we can't put it all on Eason to win against good teams like Ole miss.
I mean does anyone here really think that Mark would have won the game against ole miss?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:27 am to DawgsLife
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Defensively? That's an entirely different story.
That's more where the reputation is
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:28 am to Crowknowsbest
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Not good enough. Couldn't hang with Bama, LSU, FSU, OSU, etc.
True. Can we now? I think we hung well with LSU most years. But let's face it...after the #1 and #2 classes in the country, there really isn't much difference in them. Hopefully Smart will get us to that #1 or #2 class, though. I sincerely hope so or we might be in for a rough ride for the next 4-5 years.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:30 am to djsdawg
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Mitchell wassen. Picked Uga over bama and uf.
I do seem to remember something like that, now. What happened with him?
XP don't seem to be a huge problem. (And shouldn't be) But we sure look ugly on those field goals!
It's been a long, long time since we have been this bad at field goals.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:30 am to DawgsLife
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Can we now?
So far we are.
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after the #1 and #2 classes in the country, there really isn't much difference in them.
Disagree here. After #5, yes, but every national champion since the start of the BCS era has had at least one top 5 class on the roster. That's where you need to live. UGA hasn't had one of those in a while.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:37 am to Peter Buck
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Kirby Smart does not have to coach this year
Agree. Considering what Richt left him to work with, I would be fine with Smart recruiting throughout this season.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:41 am to Crowknowsbest
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So far we are.
One year, and its not over yet. I don't think anybody catches Ohio State this year, and Alabama usually pulls it out at the end. LSU....not after firing Miles.
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Disagree here. After #5, yes, but every national champion since the start of the BCS era has had at least one top 5 class on the roster. That's where you need to live. UGA hasn't had one of those in a while.
Well, in 2015, There was a 24 point difference in #1 and #3.
In 2014, there was a 23 point difference between #1 and #3.
In 2013 there was a 28 point difference between #1 and #3.
In 2012 there was a 23 point difference in #1 and #3.
Those are pretty significant. That is the difference in 2-3 5* players every year.
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Sorry. I should have posted a link. These were taken from the 247 Composite rankings.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 8:43 am
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:46 am to Crowknowsbest
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Defensively? That's an entirely different story.
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That's more where the reputation is
I agree 100%, then. It's almost as if the defensive players don't want to hit. they don't wrap up anymore (This is all across the college to pro game, though)
They are so consumed with getting a highlight hit they miss a ton of tackles. I will blame some of it on the targeting rule. They are ducking their heads and afraid to hit.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:50 am to GurleyGirl
Think about it.
If we get beat because our guys are a step slower, a few pounds too small, not quite as good, not quite as deep... I'm good with that with a new coach coming in.
What is scary is they seem disorganized, flat, undisciplined, out of position, and lacking a sense of urgency. Among things. They are not doing the little things. I blame this on the current staff. This needs to be fixed before dreams of better players enter our heads. What we see right now should scare the shite out of you if you are a UGA fan. It's not about Richt... He is gone. Maybe these are all 3 stars who were rated 4... At least coach these fake 4 stars. Coach them to execute... Do the right thing each play... Play with passion and urgency. If you can't show kids that you will make them better, why will they want to come? Other than a nice car and gift cards?
If we get beat because our guys are a step slower, a few pounds too small, not quite as good, not quite as deep... I'm good with that with a new coach coming in.
What is scary is they seem disorganized, flat, undisciplined, out of position, and lacking a sense of urgency. Among things. They are not doing the little things. I blame this on the current staff. This needs to be fixed before dreams of better players enter our heads. What we see right now should scare the shite out of you if you are a UGA fan. It's not about Richt... He is gone. Maybe these are all 3 stars who were rated 4... At least coach these fake 4 stars. Coach them to execute... Do the right thing each play... Play with passion and urgency. If you can't show kids that you will make them better, why will they want to come? Other than a nice car and gift cards?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:03 am to DawgsLife
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Those are pretty significant. That is the difference in 2-3 5* players every year.
My point is that #3 is good enough to win big with. #8 isn't.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 9:04 am
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