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JT Daniels Is A Coach

Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:55 am
JT is a GA at West Georgia this year. He is starting his coaching career. Hope all goes well for him.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:13 am to
I wish him nothing but the best. Him and Eason both did things the right way after losing their jobs primarily due to injury. They both got healthy around mid-year but were firmly on the bench at that point, never complained, never pouted, just continued being great teammates and supporting the team then quietly transferred AFTER the season was over. Compare their situations to someone like Justin Fields and it's easy to root for guys like that.

And on another note, he was maybe the best deep ball thrower I can recall at UGA in a long, long time. It felt like every time he threw a long bomb it was perfectly in stride with the receiver.
Posted by WalkonQB
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:51 am to
Happy for JTD, he seemed to be a really good teammate.
Crazy to think that he played for 4 (maybe 5?) teams.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:35 pm to
Not every ball instride but JT was the master of not overthrowing the ball. Many times Pickens had to slow down and adjust but those passes are very high percentage. JT had the quickest release I've seen, necessary because of his lack of athleticism.

Our offense never scored against Clemson in 2021 but injured JT toughed out that game and set us on path to our first natty in 41 years. DGD
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

And on another note, he was maybe the best deep ball thrower I can recall at UGA in a long, long time. It felt like every time he threw a long bomb it was perfectly in stride with the receiver.


He was good. Better than Stafford.
But I never thought he was great at the deep ball. Aaron Murray and Stetson Bennett (2021) can make a great argument that they were better than JT at the deep ball.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:22 pm to
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Aaron Murray and Stetson Bennett (2021) can make a great argument that they were better than JT at the deep ball.


I'm genuinely curious how many of our games you've watched lately because probably the biggest knock on stetson's game is his inability ot hit a deep receive in stride. Not saying he's never done it of course, but I can't even begin to count the times we've had to have some slow down almost to a jog to wait on one of his. Go watch any full season 2021 highlight reel and even on TD throws you'll see Arian, Pickens, and Burton constantly having to put on the brakes. There is truly no way whatsoever that stetson threw a "better" deep ball in 2021 than JT did in 2020.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:25 pm to
Maybe semantics on my part, but we won that game despite of JT Daniels. He had an awful game.

Then he pussy footed an injury for weeks, taking the advice of his personal doctor over the trainers, and got Wally Pipped (despite constant bitching from fans). I'm sure he's a great guy and props, I guess, for not being an a-hole ( though I'm not sure what grounds he would have to be an a-hole) about transferring.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:26 pm to
I would say stetson was better for sure.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7000 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:14 pm to
True that JT couldn't throw the ball 10 yards against Clemson but he was obviously in pain. I give credit for not turning the ball over in spite of the situation. That was such a frustrating game on offense for both teams.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:05 pm to
Well he did have a terrible interception in that game actually, but I get your point.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

He was good. Better than Stafford.
But I never thought he was great at the deep ball. Aaron Murray and Stetson Bennett (2021) can make a great argument that they were better than JT at the deep ball.


As I read this I thought, "Someone will jump on this and say Bennett couldn't throw a deep ball." Didn't take long either.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:19 am to
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Go watch any full season 2021 highlight reel and even on TD throws you'll see Arian, Pickens, and Burton constantly having to put on the brakes. There is truly no way whatsoever that stetson threw a "better" deep ball in 2021 than JT did in 2020.

If you watch 2021, you would actually find that Stetson was the only player to ever hit Smith in stride. JT Daniels couldn't do it ever in the same season.

Did players have to slow down to complete deep balls? Yes. Either they are hit in stride, slow down, or it is incomplete. Stetson's deep ball accuracy in 2021 was near elite.
2021 finished with 10.0 yards per attempt and 16 passing TDs outside the redzone.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:38 am to
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If you watch 2021, you would actually find that Stetson was the only player to ever hit Smith in stride. JT Daniels couldn't do it ever in the same season.


that's great, but isn't the topic. If the topic was "which QBs in 2021 hit arian smith in stride" or "Did JT daniels hit arian smiht in stride in 2021" then you may have something. But it's comparing JT in 2020 and steton in 2021. Hell, Arian's first TD of his career was an "in stride" ball with 40 air yard for a TD against SC: LINK

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. Stetson's deep ball accuracy in 2021 was near elite.
2021 finished with 10.0 yards per attempt and 16 passing TDs outside the redzone.


Utterly meaningless to the topic. He could have finished with 40 YPA and 50 TDs outside the red zone and it wouldn't speak to the point of the discussion. To my knowledge there isn't even a metric to measure this other than using your eyes and watching. There were dozens of times in 2021 where we would COMPLETE a long ball, so it goes down int he stats as a long reception, where the receiver was multiple steps past his guy but had to stop and go for a jump ball instead of simply continuing to run, because it was underthrown.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24003 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:46 am to
Watch the YouTube video of all of JT Daniels throws from 2020..same thing happens multiple times in the first 5 minutes.

The revisionist history of building up JT Daniels into some superstar QB is a weird trait that some of the fan are can't get past. The dude had a few good games against shitty teams with no one in the stands.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25569 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Utterly meaningless to the topic. He could have finished with 40 YPA and 50 TDs outside the red zone and it wouldn't speak to the point of the discussion. To my knowledge there isn't even a metric to measure this other than using your eyes and watching. There were dozens of times in 2021 where we would COMPLETE a long ball, so it goes down int he stats as a long reception, where the receiver was multiple steps past his guy but had to stop and go for a jump ball instead of simply continuing to run, because it was underthrown.

Stetson Bennett was top 3 in the country in completion percentage over 30 yards in 2021.
I don't have the stat as it was on one of the pay sites.
The knock on Stetson was that he rarely threw the ball over 30 yards downfield in the air in 2021. It was the Connor Shaw effect where Stetson was supremely efficient inside 20 yards and supremely efficient against man coverage the one or two throws downfield a game in 2021.
I keep throwing out 2021, because Stetson was not as efficient on those downfield throws in 2022.

In 2021, Stetson was throwing to green grass and killing defenses that had man coverage.
In 2022, he was fitting tight zone windows but struggled significantly more against man.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63906 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:58 pm to
I'm kind of surprised he couldn't even make a practice squad in the NFL, he's got a great arm and vision. The tail end of 2020 he looked like the next big thing.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34452 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:29 pm to
Too many injuries.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:32 am to
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I'm genuinely curious how many of our games you've watched lately because probably the biggest knock on stetson's game is his inability ot hit a deep receive in stride.


I can’t remember the last UGA QB that was really good at hitting long passes in stride…or at least not like some of the other QBs out there that just have a knack for hitting those deep routes at full speed. They all had their moments but it did seems like there were a lot more times where they had to slow down. That huge catch to Pickens in the NCG (I think) he had to dive and extend to bring it in and he had 2 steps on his coverage.

Fromm lived off the sideline throw or back shoulder pass. Stet had the arm but seemed to either under or overthrow the long ones. IIRC a lot of his long completions were to guy cutting open downfield…not running deep. We made the catches a lot of times but rarely in stride so they could keep running to the EZ. JT was as good as any but had a small body of work.

Am I misremembering this?
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25569 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Fromm lived off the sideline throw or back shoulder pass. Stet had the arm but seemed to either under or overthrow the long ones. IIRC a lot of his long completions were to guy cutting open downfield…not running deep. We made the catches a lot of times but rarely in stride so they could keep running to the EZ. JT was as good as any but had a small body of work.

Am I misremembering this?


Statistically, Murray and Stetson are the best deep ball throwers. JT wasn't that good in terms of consistency.

Murray had Tavarres King (3 seasons), AJ Green (1 season), and smaller contributions from Chris Conley/Malcolm Mitchell/Justin Scott Wesley.

Stetson had Jermaine Burton, Ladd McConkey, and AD Mitchell with smaller contributions from Arian Smith/James Cook/Kenny McIntosh.

To be fair to JT, he only had George Pickens to go deep to and a healthy Arian Smith in the Peach Bowl against Cincy.
It really is not fair to a QB to measure the deep ball without acknowledging the need for someone to go out there and get it.

I was disappointed with Carson's deep ball efficiency last season. It felt like a bunch of near misses. But Stetson improved over his weaknesses in 2022. And I'm optimistic that Carson will see similar improvement driving the ball downfield and in the red zone.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7000 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 4:03 pm to
Carson made the same mistake over and over on deep balls with wide open receivers. When receivers know they are completely in the clear they tend to slow down slightly. Carson's passes would've been on target if he had thrown a safer pass or if receivers had maintained speed.

Passes to open receivers don't have to be perfect. Give the receiver a chance like JT did.
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