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Joe Brady leaving LSU

Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:11 pm
Burrow gone
Edwards helaire gone
Jefferson gone

They were better than us this year but we're in better shape
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:12 pm
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:18 pm to
frick the moral victory....they won a Natty. Not a single damn one of us that wouldn't trade places with them today.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:21 pm to
Deeprig, is that you?
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
1297 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:10 pm to
True, but hopefully this was a Cam Newton miracle season for them and now they go back to 3 or 4 losses a year.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:46 am to
If we win a natty, I don't care if all 85 scholarship players declare for the draft or transfer and every single coach takes a job somewhere else. I've basically given up hope of seeing UGA win a title in my lifetime because we seem cursed or some shite. My wife was worried that I would react poorly to our loss in the National Title game and get arrested; she was shocked when I calmly answered the phone when she called about 15 minutes after the game ended and I told her "I'm disappointed, but I'm not angry. This is Georgia football. I'm FAR more likely to get arrested if we ever win the title."

LSU kicked our asses in the SECCG and won a national title. Until the shoe is on the foot we should all just shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 6:50 am
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:57 am to
Weird post to be attacked by other Dawg fans. We are a strange and tortured bunch.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Burrow gone



A generational College QB...best since Cam/Tebow.

LSU will 100% take a step back next year even if Brady had stayed.

But ya they broke through and we continue to wallow in mediocrity...so while I am glad their fortress was damaged, they still won the war.

We will see how good a shape UGA is when we travel to Bama early next season.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20302 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:13 am to
Baylor is also interested in Aranda.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 7:14 am
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4130 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:53 am to
LSU posters talking about Monken to replace Brady. He was there under Les 2005-2006 as, get this, Passing game Coordinator
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:55 am to
quote:

But ya they broke through and we continue to wallow in mediocrity...so while I am glad their fortress was damaged, they still won the war.


You call our current run “wallowing in mediocrity”?? We are spoiled rotten when a #4 finish is met with such disappointment. Not preaching, I’m there too.

As far as the war goes- did auburn win the war when Chiz bought and backed his way into a MNC? Or did they have a historic, yet flukeish, season? Odds are LSU more like auburn than Bama.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:56 am to
quote:

LSU posters talking about Monken to replace Brady. He was there under Les 2005-2006 as, get this, Passing game Coordinator


Then we just need to give him play calling duties and OC/co-OC title...
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4130 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:59 am to
Pretty sure that's what Joe Brady did and was called
Posted by LSUHobNailBoot
Watkinsville - Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1058 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:10 am to
Actually it will be Jorge Munoz who has been on staff as an offensive analyst and Joe Burrow attributed much of his success to. So much so he specially mentioned him in his Heisman speech and invited him to NY.

Also note Brady never called plays. Ensminger did. While Ensminger was looking for the next play to call, Joe was analying the previous plays/drives and talking to Joe about it.
So he wasnt our OC and never actually called plays.
Not saying the impact he made was not huge and his loss stinks.

But no LSU fan who doesnt have their head stuck up their arse thought he would be here for long. I fully expected him to leave this year. I am glad he took this lighting in the bottle and got paid a ton of money. He has never actually been an OC and he parlayed it into an NFL gig for millions.

As for Aranda he is not going anywhere. But will once a good HC job swims by. Which could be next year or after. Not yall on this board but I have to chuckle how all year people have been saying "LSU's Defense is horrible, LSU's D sucks X team is going to kill them, Vandy put up 38 points on this horrible defense, Ole Miss 600 yard etc etc" but now are saying the potential of losing Aranda is "devastating" which is confusing...
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 8:20 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:22 am to
Are you sure Brady didn't call plays? I thought I read an interview with Ensminger where he said they share that duty. I believe he said Brady was better with tight formations and empty formations so E would tell him they were using one of those formations next that Brady would call the play for it.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Are you sure Brady didn't call plays? I thought I read an interview with Ensminger where he said they share that duty. I believe he said Brady was better with tight formations and empty formations so E would tell him they were using one of those formations next that Brady would call the play for it.



Yeah... they definitely split duties:

quote:

Q. How do you two decide how the calls will be made during the flow of a game?
STEVE ENSMINGER: We talked about it before the game. I tell him, I know what my strengths are and I know what my weaknesses are. Joe is better with our compact packages. Joe is better at our empty package than I am. So I tell him, we talk about it before the game, Look, when I want to go empty, be ready. If it's third and whatever, and I have a call, I make it. If not, I tell him. He has it all highlighted. I'm like, Take it.

We can go to empty right now. I said, Joe, I'm going empty. Take it, he's ready for it.

Compact meaning our bunch packages, a condensed formation, stuff like that. He's better at that than I am. I know it. I tell him, Hey, I want to go whatever it is, bunch, pack 'em all in here. I said, Call it. He's ready for it.

LINK


FWIW, it does also mention the bit about Joe Brady talking to Burrow after series were over, but during the series, it seems pretty clear that they split play calling duties and at a minimum it was groupthink in terms of determining what to do with a specific down/distance.

quote:

Q. How much easier does it make having Joe being able to adjust?
STEVE ENSMINGER: The first thing when he gets off the field, he talks to Joe Brady. I love Joe Brady. He's sitting there explaining to him what he saw the last series. I'm sitting there trying to get ready for the next series.

But he's so smart. What did you see on this play? Coach Brady is telling him, Hey, this is what we got. Joe Burrow is telling him, I saw this, everything else.

There's very few times in your career you get a chance to coach a quarterback like that, that he comes off the field, he saw it all. I'll be honest, when you're calling a play, you feel comfortable with it, you see the coverage, you see the blitz, what's going on, and I don't blink either because I know he sees it and is going to make the right decision.

He will find it. Coach O puts a picture up in our team room of an eagle that's focused, and it says: If you chase two rabbits, you get none. I told my best friend, Bill Johnson, at his house the other night, When I see that eagle's eyes, I see Joe Burrow. That's how focused he is.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 8:31 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:29 am to
Thanks, that's the interview I was thinking of.
Posted by LSUHobNailBoot
Watkinsville - Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1058 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:30 am to
I could be wrong. Solely basing this on the article in the paper that said.

"But the Ensminger-Brady dynamic in the booth on game day was a cooperative. Ensminger was the play-caller, both coaches have said, and after offensive drives, Brady broke down the previous drive with Burrow while Ensminger prepared the plays for the next drive.

It was a process that allowed LSU to be a "step ahead" during a game."

LINK
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3019 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:33 am to
Brady is a huge loss. I saw some LSU fans say "we still have the playbook", but playbooks aren't what creates success. If they were, everyone could just copy some great team. The insight of the people is what can't be easily replaced. And you don't replace what Joe Burrow did this year. LSU will rebuild, not reload.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 8:35 am
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:34 am to
See my edit above. *After* an offensive series, they definitely took 2 different responsibilities, but that "plan ahead" part is irrelevant outside of the first set of downs pretty much... you can plan a 1st and 10, and maybe a 2nd short vs 2nd long but you're not game planning the whole next series once you're actually in the flow of the game. Alternatively, you might pick out a handful of plays, think of some variations/wrinkles and say "I want to see if these fit into our next series".

But if anything, Brady being the one who is breaking down what you saw means he's the one offering up strategic advice about how to beat it to your QB - what to look for, who to key on, what receiver might be breaking open late but you're missing the read by locking in too early. I'd argue that is more critical than "I think these plays might work in the right situation next possession".
Posted by LSUHobNailBoot
Watkinsville - Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1058 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 8:52 am to
All fair comments for sure, Losing Brady hurts but it has been expected.
But I think the perception LSU is going to revert back to 2016 and Toss Dives into 9 man fronts and Jet sweeps simply because Brady has moved on I think is a bit premature.

The offensive Philosophy has changed, the OC and the analyst who played a critical role in that are still there.

Orgeron found Brady hidden in the Saints Facility. No one knew who he was. I have Faith he will make the right call to continue.

The bigger loss lets not kid ourselves is Burrow. Even if Brady stayed. He had a Thoroughbred to make it happen. A play is only as good as the person who executes it.

This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 8:57 am
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