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re: Jim Chaney will be the downfall of this season
Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:48 am to jodeaux
Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:48 am to jodeaux
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Jim Chaney will be the downfall of this season
And if we don't see improvement in the offense this season, hopefully Kirby will replace him.
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 7:50 am
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:34 am to Whiznot
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Chaney said that Eason was Bambi-ish which means the same thing as skittish. I hope that I'm dead wrong but I can't foresee Eason as a champion QB.
I just read chaneys comment and you are a retarded person.
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:53 am to Whiznot
Freshman QB + porous O-line = disaster. We managed to have a decent season in '16 in spite of it. If '17 doesn't usher in some fairly big improvement, CJC's seat should be very, very hot.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:59 am to Cobb Dawg
Not to mention a first year ever head coach.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 11:59 am to djsdawg
Pretty much.
He heard a wierd word that Chaney made up in a press conference. But, instead of paying attention to Chaney's explanation of what that made-up word means (long-limbed, tall, lanky etc) or paying attention to the context (mechanics, fundamentals, etc.) he thinks of a story about a baby deer that a volunteer once read to him long ago at the retard orphanage.
He heard a wierd word that Chaney made up in a press conference. But, instead of paying attention to Chaney's explanation of what that made-up word means (long-limbed, tall, lanky etc) or paying attention to the context (mechanics, fundamentals, etc.) he thinks of a story about a baby deer that a volunteer once read to him long ago at the retard orphanage.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 1:03 pm to Cobb Dawg
The "porous Oline" was on Cheney in a lot of cases.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 1:06 pm to Peter Buck
Everybody needs to relax. Word is Chaney did a lot of soul searching in the off-season.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 1:21 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Ya, he is still learning and growing as an OC. I'm hoping he sold his soul to the dark lord Satan. The full solar eclipse happening last in 1980 tells us there is something big about to happen.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 1:35 pm to Peter Buck
The soul searching thing is a pretty terrifying red flag.
I want a guy that knows what didn't work, why it didn't work, and how to go about fixing it. Not someone that has to go to the Grand Canyon to search their soul under the stars for answers.
I want a guy that knows what didn't work, why it didn't work, and how to go about fixing it. Not someone that has to go to the Grand Canyon to search their soul under the stars for answers.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 2:11 pm to Cobb Dawg
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Freshman QB + porous O-line = disaster. We managed to have a decent season in '16 in spite of it. If '17 doesn't usher in some fairly big improvement, CJC's seat should be very, very hot.
Agree with this. People are way, way too hung up on Eason. For God's sake his True Freshman season was better than stafford's freshman AND sophomore seasons but nobbody seemed to care about that just because we were winning (slightly more than now). When you have a first year head coach, a brand new coaching staff, no go-to receivers, and a dreadful O-line coupled with a true FR QB you're obviously goign to have some growing pains. Here are Eason's splits from the first half of the season to the second half, keeping in mind all the other stuff above was still ongoign throughout the season:
First 6 games:
86/168 (51%) 1020 yds, 8 TD/5 INT
PG averages: 14/28, 170 yards, 1.3 TD/ 0.8 INT
Last 7 games:
118/202 (58%) 1410 yards, 8 TD/3 INT
PG averages: 17/29, 201 yards, 1.1 TD/0.4 INT
Eason clearly got much better over the 2nd half of the season which is no surprise. Despite chaney's stubborn play-calling Eason improved considerably in pretty much all phases, despite still having a horrendous OL, sketchy WRs, and facing better opponents.
To think that he can't or won't improve with a better OL, improved RBs/TEs (they were pretty damn good in 16 so probably not a ton of room for improvement but I surely see no reason for regression, considering Chubb wasn't fully healthy last year and our best TE was a TFr), better WR play and having better field position from an improved defense is just unfounded.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 2:35 pm to WG_Dawg
The Oline is gonna be young and/or inexperienced... guys who couldn't beat out the alleged horrible guys from last year, of which 3 are in NFL camps. We should be pretty scared.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 3:16 pm to Peter Buck
If Reggie Davis can make a nfl camp, it's proven one doesn't even have to be a good sec player to make one.
We better hope the freshmen and 2nd year guys grow up quick because sims and Allen aren't good.
We better hope the freshmen and 2nd year guys grow up quick because sims and Allen aren't good.
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 8/6/17 at 3:23 pm to Peter Buck
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guys who couldn't beat out the alleged horrible guys from last year,
what are you talking about? 2 of the guys that are likely going to be stalwarts this year weren't even on the team last year. Our best OL from last year is switching to a different position and can't possibly be worse than his predecessor. A starter from last year is also switching positions and is much more capable than his predecessor. Not to mention that the RFr/Sophomores from last year's team (like cleveland/Allen/Kindley) are all another year bigger stronter and more knowledgeable than last.
This OL will be inexperienced to begin the year but talent can mask inexperience. I'd bet my life on the fact that our OL will be better this year than last. Last year we had a tard playing LT, a wonderful G playing out of position at RT, a weakling playing C, and a TFr playing RG. The only guy we could actually count on last year was Wynn. There ain't no way we are going to be equal or worse this year.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 3:41 pm to WG_Dawg
I hope you are right...
Posted on 8/6/17 at 3:49 pm to WG_Dawg
What exactly happened the last 3rd of the season?
You really thought the looked "awful" ?BS
We averaged over 200 ypg rushing and did a pretty good job in pass protection.
Once again,the fact that it took so long to turn things around was a combination of shite coaching and Eason improving.
You really thought the looked "awful" ?BS
We averaged over 200 ypg rushing and did a pretty good job in pass protection.
Once again,the fact that it took so long to turn things around was a combination of shite coaching and Eason improving.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 4:01 pm to Peter Buck
If I'm wrong I'll be just as surprised as you are. Let's compare.
2016:
LT- a loser from Rhode Island and intermittently a JR (wynn) that slid over from guard and played adequately
LG- Wynn mostly, solid.
C- Kublanow, undersized and manhanlded freqently
RG- Gaillard/Kindley- adequate
RT- Pyke, playing out of position since he's a natural guard
2017:
LT- Senior Wynn/Tfr Thomas (certainly unproven, but a natural, scary if counted on exclusively though)/Hayes (JUCO, wildcard)
LG- Pat Allen/Netori Johnson/Justin Shaffer- No qualms here. Tons of inexperience but more talent in years
C- Gaillard- Much stronger and more physical than Kubs. I like kubs but heart doesnt' always overcome physical talent. Sucked seeing him get pushed backwards every series
RG- Kindley/Johnson/Shaffer- Again, far more talent than we've had at guard in a while
RT- Wilson/cleveland/hayes- Wilson is the best OL we've signed in almost a decade. He's a prototype you'd create in a lab. He probably won't start for app state but in the long run he will almost certainly be better than pyke at RT
These are my guesses. I know that the way they're currently lining up right now in practice isn't the same, but cmon there's no way sims is going to be our starting RT this season. Kindley/Shaffer/Netori/Allen are almost surely going to be our main guards this year, and I'd imagine Wynn/Thomas/Hayes/Wilson are our main tackles. Inexperience be damned I'd take that rotation all day every day right now over what we've had the last 2 years.
2016:
LT- a loser from Rhode Island and intermittently a JR (wynn) that slid over from guard and played adequately
LG- Wynn mostly, solid.
C- Kublanow, undersized and manhanlded freqently
RG- Gaillard/Kindley- adequate
RT- Pyke, playing out of position since he's a natural guard
2017:
LT- Senior Wynn/Tfr Thomas (certainly unproven, but a natural, scary if counted on exclusively though)/Hayes (JUCO, wildcard)
LG- Pat Allen/Netori Johnson/Justin Shaffer- No qualms here. Tons of inexperience but more talent in years
C- Gaillard- Much stronger and more physical than Kubs. I like kubs but heart doesnt' always overcome physical talent. Sucked seeing him get pushed backwards every series
RG- Kindley/Johnson/Shaffer- Again, far more talent than we've had at guard in a while
RT- Wilson/cleveland/hayes- Wilson is the best OL we've signed in almost a decade. He's a prototype you'd create in a lab. He probably won't start for app state but in the long run he will almost certainly be better than pyke at RT
These are my guesses. I know that the way they're currently lining up right now in practice isn't the same, but cmon there's no way sims is going to be our starting RT this season. Kindley/Shaffer/Netori/Allen are almost surely going to be our main guards this year, and I'd imagine Wynn/Thomas/Hayes/Wilson are our main tackles. Inexperience be damned I'd take that rotation all day every day right now over what we've had the last 2 years.
This post was edited on 8/6/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 8/6/17 at 4:02 pm to RD Dawg
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What exactly happened the last 3rd of the season?
You really thought the looked "awful" ?BS
We averaged over 200 ypg rushing and did a pretty good job in pass protection.
Once again,the fact that it took so long to turn things around was a combination of shite coaching and Eason improving.
I didn't see much improvement at all for Catalina, and pyke as good of a lineman as he is simply isn't a tackle. I think we improved because it's only natural for a team to get better over the year espeically in their first year with a new staff. But let's be honest with ourselves, this year's OL TALENT will be light years better than last year's, the question is just how long will it take them to settle in and get comfortable.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 4:21 pm to WG_Dawg
Light years ahead of 3 guys they couldn't beat out last year? Huh...
Posted on 8/6/17 at 4:35 pm to Peter Buck
The 2 frosh tackles could be better than any of the guys we lost.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 4:36 pm to Peter Buck
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Light years ahead of 3 guys they couldn't beat out last year? Huh...
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this year's OL TALENT will be light years better than last year's,
I know you're getting old but try to pay attention. Shaffer, Netori, Thomas, and Wilson all weren't competing for PT last year so obviously they didn't fricking play.
Would you honestly try to argue that the talent of this year's OL is less than 2016's? Really?
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