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re: Interesting, and depressing read from an A&M reporter on UGA's offense
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:11 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:11 am to FooManChoo
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CKS doesn’t bench his proven starter in one game in the middle of the season and that was his “choice” which caused Fields to leave? Don’t you hear how bad that sounds for Fields? How selfish and entitled that sounds when he had proven nothing at that point?
Despite a struggling Fromm, Look at his lack of PT vs Carolina, Mizzou, UT, candy, LSU, and UF. Fromm had 2 early ints and 2 early fumbles in the first 3 of those games, and fields still didn’t get a shot.
That’s on Kirby, and fields Being unhappy about that is perfectly reasonable. Kirby gave him zero reasons to think he would have a real pchance to be our starter in 2019, so he left for a real shot.
How can he prove anything in those games if he isn’t getting the requisite PT?
The only way a starter loses his job is if the starter gets hurt or backup outplays him, and Kirby never gave Fields a chance to do that.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:35 am to meansonny
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showed my data. Care to return the favor?
You showed you don’t understand how this data is supposed to work:
DJS: 88/10.5 = 8.4, zero plays in patsy games due to injury in the first half of Sc game.
Tebow: 122/14 = 8.7, but 37 plays in 3 patsy games makes it 85/11 = 7.7
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:48 am to djsdawg
You dont understand Q&A.
I ask a question.
Then you answer.
And before you squelch, I asked about your data, you wanted me to show you mine (cfbstats and sports-reference.com). I showed mine. Now are you going to share yours?
Quid pro quo.
I ask a question.
Then you answer.
And before you squelch, I asked about your data, you wanted me to show you mine (cfbstats and sports-reference.com). I showed mine. Now are you going to share yours?
Quid pro quo.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:51 am to meansonny
And your definition of patsy games is bullshite.
There is bullshite time in a games (bill connelley uses this). And that is an accepted stat to back out of his analytics.
And there is your definition of patsy games which you pulled out of your arse.
There is bullshite time in a games (bill connelley uses this). And that is an accepted stat to back out of his analytics.
And there is your definition of patsy games which you pulled out of your arse.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:54 am to meansonny
This isn’t a q and a.
I just did the math for you. How is that not showing you the data?
I just did the math for you. How is that not showing you the data?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:02 pm to meansonny
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And there is your definition of patsy games which you pulled out of your arse.
Check the list of teams:
2018 Austin peay, Middle tenn st, umass
2006 Southern miss, ucf, western Carolina
2002 northwestern state, New Mexico State
It’s perfectly reasonable to separate these from the others.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:34 pm to djsdawg
quote:Its very easy for people with critical thinking skills to follow.
It’s very difficult for meansonny to follow.
Fromm has played well overall for two seasons with experienced talent around him and this season he has struggled with inexperienced talent around him. That is different from being distracted last season at times due to having his rhythm thrown off by Fields coming in and playing at random times throughout games.
In summation, Fromm has had a lot of adversity to deal with in his career at UGA and you guys suck at root cause analysis.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:58 pm to FooManChoo
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very easy for people with critical thinking skills to follow.
Fromm has played well overall for two seasons with experienced talent around him and this season he has struggled with inexperienced talent around him. That is different from being distracted last season at times due to having his rhythm thrown off by Fields coming in and playing at random times throughout games.
In summation, Fromm has had a lot of adversity to deal with in his career at UGA and you guys suck at root cause analysis.
Correlation is not causation, so you should quiet down about others struggling with RCA. Your blatant emotional attachment to Fromm prevents you from being able to do anything but make excuses for Fromm. This whole board sees it, and that adversity comment is just another example of it.
Fromm has faced SO much adversity......
.....besides being able to lean on elite defenses, kickers, running backs, OL blocking for 3 straight seasons.
....besides being given the job due to an injury to the starter in 2017.
....besides being enabled to keep the job due to his head coach not giving the heisman caliber backup snaps while he struggled in 2018.
No one buys this BS adversity claim of yours. If anything, Fromm has been as charmed as any qb we have ever had.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:53 pm to djsdawg
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just did the math for you. How is that not showing you the data?
bullshite.
You posted about snaps per game.
Do you understand what a snap is?
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:57 pm to djsdawg
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implication being it was splitting reps that caused him to struggle. He hasn't split anything this year and he still struggled all year. This is not difficult to follow.
It’s very difficult for meansonny to follow.
That has nothing to do with my comments in the thread.
The hill that you are standing on is that Kirby chose a different QB.
As if that a) happened. B) forced fields away from UGA.
I disagree on both accounts.
Fields saw more playing time than DJ shockley. And he threw more passes than Tim Tebow. The playing time was there for a true freshman.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:59 pm to meansonny
There is no snap count web site, so you should know better. I am posting about rush and pass attempts.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:14 pm to meansonny
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Fields saw more playing time than DJ shockley. And he threw more passes than Tim Tebow. The playing time was there for a true freshman.
I literally showed you the math showing that fields had less rush and pass attempts per game, especially in non-patsy games.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:24 pm to djsdawg
This thread is dead.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:31 pm to djsdawg
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Total plays per game as a healthy player
This is coming from you and I called bullshite.
And now you finally acknowledge that it is bullshite.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:05 pm to meansonny
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is coming from you and I called bull shite.
Plays = rush attempts + pass attempts
Let’s see your math. Prove it’s BS.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:29 pm to meansonny
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That has nothing to do with my comments in the thread.
The hill that you are standing on is that Kirby chose a different QB.
As if that a) happened. B) forced fields away from UGA.
I disagree on both accounts.
Fields saw more playing time than DJ shockley. And he threw more passes than Tim Tebow. The playing time was there for a true freshman.
Of course he threw more balls than Tebow. Tebow didn't come in as a freshman ready to throw the ball at all. As much as I love Shock, he completely screwed himself by staying, and Fields is a better player in his first year as a starter than DJ ever was.
The comparison is with the wrong QBs. There is kid just as highly touted who came out the exact same year and sat as well. Lawrence is the apt comparison. The fact is Fields is more accurate, a better runner, and a better decision maker in his first season as a starter than Trevor in his second. Even if you can't write down his stat lines it's not exactly a leap to believe that with decent coaching Justin would at the very least have been no worse than Trevor last year, but opportunity to win the job had a different meaning for one staff than it did for another.
Take a look at Clemson and you'll see what getting a real opportunity to win the job looks like. That's not what happened at UGA at all.
You could say that OSU and Clemson have coaching staffs that can identify potential and help players develop while UGA doesn't, so Fields' growth would have been stunted. I have to admit that's valid. Does it change the fact that there is an enormous deficiency in this coaching staff when it comes to QBs and significant mismanagement in this particular circumstance?
Don't even answer. The results speak for themselves.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 3:37 pm to djsdawg
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Plays = rush attempts + pass attempts
That is correct. Except that a play is for all 11 players on the field (whether they pass, run, or block).
How many plays does Trey Hill have? He hasn't run or passed the ball.
How many plays does JR Reed have? He doesn't run or pass the ball.
This isnt rocket science. The only thing that negates a play is a penalty.
Posted on 12/4/19 at 4:32 pm to meansonny
Yes. It isn’t rocket science so why are you trying to make it so difficult? We are only talking about rushes and passes by the qbs . Nothing else.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:23 pm to meansonny
Rush/pass = total
DJS: 36/52 = 88
Tebow: 33/89 = 122
Fields: 42/39 = 81
So meansonny, explain how 81 is more than 88.
DJS: 36/52 = 88
Tebow: 33/89 = 122
Fields: 42/39 = 81
So meansonny, explain how 81 is more than 88.
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