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re: Interesting, and depressing read from an A&M reporter on UGA's offense
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:16 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 12/3/19 at 2:16 pm to FooManChoo
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You don’t do yourself any favors when you talk of choosing QBs.
Seems to me like a person who wants the best players at UGA so the team can be the best.
Foo, you honestly seem like someone who would choose your favorite player doing well over a national championship.
Not exactly sure who's doing themselves favors in this.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 4:48 pm to FooManChoo
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You don’t do yourself any favors when you talk of choosing QBs.
What exactly is your point here?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:22 pm to djsdawg
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What exactly is your point here?
Kirby chose Fromm over Fields?
Is that your take? Honestly. LOL
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:28 pm to meansonny
Who decides who plays? Usually the head coach has final say.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:29 pm to djsdawg
Is this the hill that you want to stand on?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:33 pm to meansonny
It can be a flat ground if you want it to be. Are you saying the coaches don’t decide who plays? It certainly looks like that’s what you want to say.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:36 pm to djsdawg
Fields had as many snaps as DJ Shockley in his first season. More pass attempts than Tim Tebow (and that doesn't account for pass plays which became scrambles).
Kirby played (or chose if that is an operative here) both.
Kirby played (or chose if that is an operative here) both.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:39 pm to meansonny
Well, you clearly didn’t answer the question.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:41 pm to djsdawg
Coach chose both.
That's twice I answered it.
Do you need a third?
That's twice I answered it.
Do you need a third?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:52 pm to Peter Buck
quote:Everything you said is true.
Fromm has missed some throws....the receivers need to do a better job on the release, making reads and running routes... the coaches need to do a better job designing and putting them in the right plays.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:55 pm to meansonny
You can only pick 1 starter at qb. Kirby picked his man, and kept him in as he struggled, which encouraged a heisman candidate to leave uga
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:01 pm to chillmonster
quote:I, too, want the best players here, so long as they want to be here and part of the team.
Seems to me like a person who wants the best players at UGA so the team can be the best.
I didn’t want Fields to go. I thought he would do well with another off-season under his belt and it looks like it did him good.
quote:I wouldn’t. I like Fromm. I like his heart. I like his tenacity. I like that he’s a man of faith. I like his devotion to UGA.
Foo, you honestly seem like someone who would choose your favorite player doing well over a national championship.
That said, if he were not our best option at QB, I would want whoever the best option was to play. He was our best option last season.
quote:Those who keep repeating the same tired lies about CKS “choosing” Fromm and “letting” Fields go are ignorant, to put it plainly.
Not exactly sure who's doing themselves favors in this.
Fromm was the starter last season because Fields wasn’t ready and Fromm played well enough to keep his job. This season may have been a different story but we won’t know because Fields was the one who chose to leave. He wasn’t kicked off the team in some either/or option where either Fromm was on the team or Fields was. Fields made his choice. Don’t blame anyone else but him for it.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:04 pm to djsdawg
quote:My point is that it’s ignorant to say that CKS chose Fromm over Fields in some sort of eternal sense that caused Fields to leave or that CKS let Fields go, as if CKS could stop him when he tried. Its ignorant and needs to stop being said or insinuated.
What exactly is your point here?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:05 pm to FooManChoo
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I wouldn’t. I like Fromm. I like his heart. I like his tenacity. I like that he’s a man of faith. I like his devotion to UGA.
That said, if he were not our best option at QB, I would want whoever the best option was to play. He was our best option last season.
Fromm is a DGD but he should have been benched against LSU. Kirby should have given Fields a chance, but he didn't. It's unfortunate because he's a much more talented QB than Jake is.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:08 pm to djsdawg
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You can only pick 1 starter at qb. Kirby picked his man, and kept him in as he struggled, which encouraged a heisman candidate to leave uga
The irony is that Fromm struggled when splitting reps. When given the reins at Florida, he did well.
Do you have any more theories that you want to share?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:09 pm to djsdawg
quote:Fields didn’t want to wait his turn. He wasn’t ready to unseat Fromm last season and he didn’t want to stick around and gamble that he was going to beat him out this season. That’s on Fields, not CKS.
You can only pick 1 starter at qb. Kirby picked his man, and kept him in as he struggled, which encouraged a heisman candidate to leave uga
Fromm had moments when he struggled but he was still proven and battle tested. He was a leader. Fields had proven nothing other than he was a raw talent with a high ceiling.
There was no reason to gamble with the team or Fromm’s confidence by abandoning him when it mattered, and whether or not you want to say he should’ve been benched during the LSU game, you can’t argue that he played his best football from that moment forward and lit up the best team in the nation (supposedly) in the SECCG.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:27 pm to Buzz Killington
quote:You could argue that and I won’t say that it wasn’t a mistake. I will just say that Fromm was the proven starter, and since the season wasn’t on the line (like Bama’s was with Tua in the NC game), the general strategy isn’t to bench a high performing QB who is having a bad game for an untested true freshman.
Fromm is a DGD but he should have been benched against LSU. Kirby should have given Fields a chance, but he didn't. It's unfortunate because he's a much more talented QB than Jake is.
Until the game was out of hand, Fromm still had a chance to recover and get us back in it. CKS stuck with his starter until it was too late for Fields to make a difference, and benching Fromm at that point would’ve likely been a terrible thing for Fromm, who we still needed to perform going forward.
You can argue both ways for whether it was a good or bad decision, but honestly if Fields left the team because of that game alone, that’s on him. Fromm played better and better after that game and gave no reason for Fields to see significant PT during games that mattered afterwards.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:46 pm to FooManChoo
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point is that it’s ignorant to say that CKS chose Fromm over Fields in some sort of eternal sense that caused Fields to leave or that CKS let Fields go, as if CKS could stop him when he tried. Its ignorant and needs to stop being said or insinuated.
And I would argue your take is ignorant. Kirby literally had a choice to make and he made it, and so far, it’s been proven to be a mistake, one that he may never live down.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:54 pm to FooManChoo
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Fields didn’t want to wait his turn. He wasn’t ready to unseat Fromm last season and he didn’t want to stick around and gamble that he was going to beat him out this season. That’s on Fields, not CKS.
Using your chosen topic, neither did Barack “wait his turn”, but they gave him a chance over the chosen Hilary, and the rest is history. It’s a gamble either way. So far it looks like we lost.
When you watch a guy you are more talented than stay on the field struggling, and you never get a legit chance, your head coach is leaving a bad impression. In other words. Kirby gave him no other good choice but to leave. He left zero reason for fields to stick around if he wanted to lead a team to a championship.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:58 pm to djsdawg
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and you never get a legit chance,
More passes than Tebow.
More snaps than DJ Shockley's 2 QB system.
Our definition of never must be different.
Cheers to you and your extremes. They make you sound genuine.
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