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re: If you want a reason why Baylor is going to beat us
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:03 am to WorkinDawg
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:03 am to WorkinDawg
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Everything pointed to Fromm playing something like joe burrow this year.
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No true freshman in the history of college football was going to unseat Fromm under the circumstances that JF entered.
See Clemson with Trevor Lawrence and Kelly Bryant.
To address the OP, this is a no-win situation for Georgia. Win, and whoopie. You beat fricking Baylor. Georgia should always beat Baylor no matter what. Lose and it'll be a much rougher offseason than last year.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 9:08 am
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:11 am to meansonny
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You never ever ever lose games on purpose.
You always always always play the kids who give us the best chance to win each week.
So if you have a team that is loaded with talent, playing a game manager instead of a playmaker at QB gives them the best chance to win?
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But Georgia is the early preview that these kids get for the NFL. If you arent going to win your battles on Saturday, you better work harder Su-Thursday and the offseason.
Yes. In the NFL, you can be great one season and benched/traded for a more talented player the next season. Look at what the Chiefs did with Alex Smith and Patrick Mahomes.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:15 am to meansonny
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Talent will never beat production unless the talent is more productive.
And talent can’t be more productive sitting on the bench. Kirby’s strategy backfired.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:16 am to WorkinDawg
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Everything pointed to Fromm playing something like joe burrow this year.
Besides the lack of mobility I guess
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:27 am to WorkinDawg
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Everything pointed to Fromm playing something like joe burrow this year.
I don't think so. Fromm was never considered to be a serious Heisman trophy candidate by people in the know. And yes, part of this was due to Georgia's balance/run first offense but also due to Fromm's obvious limitations. I certainly didn't think a game manager type QB like Fromm would have a Joe Burrow type year.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:32 am to GurleyGirl
To be fair, no one really thought Joe Burrow would have the year he’s had, but it is easy to look back now and see Jake had some pretty slow starts even in 2018 with much more experienced receivers. There was open discussion even on this board and even before the LSU game that maybe Jake wasn’t the answer...but then we went on a run and came within an eyelash of beating Bama again, and that plot line died until this season.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:44 am to DawgHolliday
Yep, I love Fromm but he is simply not a dynamic QB who can take the team on his back and win big games. Our recent games with Alabama are prime examples. In the NCG, Fromm got shut down and Tua came in as a Freshman and won the game for Bama. Then in the next game, Tua gets hurt and Hurts comes in and once again wins the game for Alabama. Fromm is a good QB but not a NC level QB and to win a NC you have to take chances on talented players like Bama did with Tua, like Clemson did with Trevor Lawrence, etc.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:13 am to GurleyGirl
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hy Baylor is going to beat us
Yep, I love Fromm but he is simply not a dynamic QB who can take the team on his back and win big games. Our recent games with Alabama are prime examples. In the NCG, Fromm got shut down and Tua came in as a Freshman and won the game for Bama. Then in the next game, Tua gets hurt and Hurts comes in and once again wins the game for Alabama. Fromm is a good QB but not a NC level QB and to win a NC you have to take chances on talented players like Bama did with Tua, like Clemson did with Trevor Lawrence, etc.
So, Fromm can’t win big games? Do you people watch UGA football?
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:18 am to Peter Buck
Read better peter.
She clearly included the words “who can take the team on his back and win big games.”
She even included 2 big losses in which Fromm got totally shut down towards the end of the game, unlike a qb “who can take the team on his back and win big games.”
That doesn’t mean he can’t be the qb on a team who wins big games.
She clearly included the words “who can take the team on his back and win big games.”
She even included 2 big losses in which Fromm got totally shut down towards the end of the game, unlike a qb “who can take the team on his back and win big games.”
That doesn’t mean he can’t be the qb on a team who wins big games.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:24 am to djsdawg
I’m confident that only trolls and misdawgs would say that Fromm “can’t take the team on his back and win big games”
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:26 am to VADawg
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So if you have a team that is loaded with talent, playing a game manager instead of a playmaker at QB gives them the best chance to win?
Not what I said. Play the player who gives you the best chance to win that saturday. If it is Fromm, play him. If it is Eason, play him. If it is Fields, play him.
Never treat a game like a practice or scrimmage. Wins are too valuable.
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Yes. In the NFL, you can be great one season and benched/traded for a more talented player the next season. Look at what the Chiefs did with Alex Smith and Patrick Mahomes.
In the NFL, an awful team can beat a great one. Because every game matters for the players. And if it doesnt matter for the player, you replace him because he is a cancer.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:28 am to GurleyGirl
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Fromm is a good QB but not a NC level QB
Disagree.
Fromm was good enough in the past.
He certainly hasnt been good enough this season. He has to own that. He has to be the QB that elevates his teammates (something he did when he didnt give Eason a chance to win the job back).
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:31 am to meansonny
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Disagree.
Fromm was good enough in the past.
He certainly hasnt been good enough this season. He has to own that. He has to be the QB that elevates his teammates (something he did when he didnt give Eason a chance to win the job back).
They say this about a guy who was in OT in the NC game and they either actually believe it, which is clinically odd... or they are just trolls.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:33 am to Peter Buck
I think it’s more that looking around the national landscape, our QB play is much less dynamic than any other contender. That will be the case again next year with OSU and Clemson at the very least.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:43 am to Peter Buck
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confident that only trolls and misdawgs would say that Fromm “can’t take the team on his back and win big games”
Troll is nothing but your lame flame nowadays.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:49 am to Peter Buck
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They say this about a guy who was in OT in the NC gam
Good lord peter:
16/32
232 yards
1 td
2 int
-15 rushing yards
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:56 am to Crowknowsbest
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think it’s more that looking around the national landscape, our QB play is much less dynamic than any other contender. That will be the case again next year with OSU and Clemson at the very least.
Fromm had the 2nd best QB pass efficiency of any QB in the playoffs in 2017.
If we made the playoffs in 2018, he would have had the 3rd best QB pass efficiency of any QB in the playoffs.
This year, his national rating of 55th in passer efficiency isnt good enough. It doesnt change what was in 2018 and 2017.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 11:23 am
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:11 am to meansonny
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Fromm had the 2nd best QB pass efficiency in the playoffs in 2017.
If we made the playoffs in 2018, he would have had the 3rd best QB pass efficiency in the playoffs.
This year, his national rating of 55th in passer efficiency isnt good enough. It doesnt change what was in 2018 and 2017.
Dynamic includes legs. The ability to scramble.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:24 am to djsdawg
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Dynamic includes legs. The ability to scramble.
If you have QBR numbers, feel free to share them.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 11:37 am to meansonny
No one knows how qbr is calculated. It’s not hard to account for rushing yards. It’s easy to see a qb turn a sack into a first down.
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