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re: I hate Cfb now
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:04 am to Chainsaw Massaquoi
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:04 am to Chainsaw Massaquoi
So it’s not talent, physical traits, coaching, or scheme: just age. Wonder why no one has thought of this before. Who knew the secret all this time was just recruit older players. So simple a caveman could do it.
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:09 am to Chainsaw Massaquoi
When these 24 year olds were freshmen these current true freshmen were in 6th grade. You’re not even allowed to play on the middle school team til 7th grade .
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:30 am to SemperFiDawg
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So it’s not talent, physical traits, coaching, or scheme: just age
Not "just" age, of course not. But you have legit men competing wiht teenagers so there are of course going to be ramifications from that.
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Wonder why no one has thought of this before.
because we haven 't had this current shitfest iteration of CFB for very long. The COVID bonus year has only just now ended I believe, plus the fact the NCAA keeps gettign sued left and right by people who won't move on so people are now playing 6 or 7 years more than they ever have before.
I'm sure in the 1950s if guys could play until 23/24 and pick whatever team in america they want each new season, you'd see the same thing then.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:13 am to Griffindawg
Dawgs were a few injuries away from being in game last night, Indiana brought a bunch of players from JMU with Cignetti, then bought a great QB and others. Everything had to jell just right, and it has so far. Georgia can do the same thing, but so can a bunch more teams. Make the playoffs and you have as good a chance as any team. Fans that want dominance, better find something besides college football. This is the day of the portal, like it or not.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:16 am to WG_Dawg
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Not "just" age, of course not. But you have legit men competing wiht teenagers so there are of course going to be ramifications from that.
Not only that but you’re able to cherry pick the players that excelled on the field in Div 2, Sunbelt, etc. beyond their HS star rating against other college athletes during their developmental years.
Instead of taking a chance with a kid like McConkey, he goes to UT Chat and then after 3 years when/if he shows promise you recruit him as a senior if you can out bid everyone else. Also, who knows if he gets the same development at that level…he may never be noticed.
I’m not throwing shade at Cignetti because he’s obviously a good coach and a helluva talent scout, but this is a big difference between using the portal to fill in gaps or weaknesses. It’s the final nail in the coffin of CFB for those that want to support a team comprised of kids that committed to UGA, actually want to be there, maybe even attend classes, etc.
Speaking of which - do these 22 year old transfers have at least register as students and go to class? Do they set foot on campus outside of the football facilities?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:39 am to SquatchDawg
For the star ranking vs. development/age debate I asked Google.
Imagine assembling a team comprised of these lowly 3 star players and others across the country.
ETA: if you ask the same for the 2021 team you can add Jordan Davis and AD Mitchell. Both 3 star recruits.
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The 2022 UGA National Championship team was anchored by several key contributors who were overlooked as 3-star recruits or unranked walk-ons.
Key Offensive Producers
Stetson Bennett IV (Quarterback): Originally an unranked walk-on, Bennett became the first Georgia quarterback to lead the team to back-to-back national titles. In 2022, he threw for a school-record 4,127 yards and 27 touchdowns, while adding 10 rushing touchdowns.
Ladd McConkey (Wide Receiver): A 3-star prospect with few major offers, McConkey was the team's second-leading receiver in 2022. He recorded 58 receptions for 762 yards and 7 touchdowns, including two scores in the National Championship game.
Daijan Edwards (Running Back): Ranked as a 3-star by some services, Edwards was the team's second-leading rusher with 769 yards and 7 touchdowns, providing a reliable physical presence in the backfield.
Key Defensive Producers
Christopher Smith II (Safety): A former 3-star recruit, Smith was a unanimous All-American in 2022. He led the team with 3 interceptions and recorded 61 tackles, including a critical field goal block return for a touchdown in the SEC Championship.
Javon Bullard (Defensive Back): A 3-star recruit, Bullard emerged as a postseason star, earning Defensive MVP honors in both the Peach Bowl and the National Championship. He finished the season with 46 tackles, 7 tackles for loss, and 2 interceptions.
Dan Jackson (Safety): A former walk-on, Jackson was a primary rotation player and occasional starter before an injury, known for his reliability in the secondary and on special teams.
Offensive Line Anchors The "Great Wall" of Georgia featured several former 3-star recruits who started every game:
Warren McClendon (Right Tackle): A multi-year starter and 3-star recruit who anchored the right side of the line.
Sedrick Van Pran (Center): Often cited as the "heart" of the line, he was a key 3-star leader who directed the offense's protections.
Imagine assembling a team comprised of these lowly 3 star players and others across the country.
ETA: if you ask the same for the 2021 team you can add Jordan Davis and AD Mitchell. Both 3 star recruits.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:50 am to SemperFiDawg
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So it’s not talent, physical traits, coaching, or scheme: just age
Just stop man. You're using high school rankings which doesn't mean a hill of beans when your team is 75% made up of transfers. The issue is you acting like they're lowly rated players that they've coached up when the truth is, they were under rated players with a large portion of them being developed somewhere else and then brought into IU. You're also underplaying the age difference is but whatever.
Cignetti has done a great job, there's no doubt, but stop acting like he's taken a bunch of 2 star players straight from high school and built them up himself.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:57 am to SemperFiDawg
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There’s a reason and lessons to be learned …..or you can just bury your head in the sand
Nope and I agree with you. UGA and others need to take notes. Portal (college experience) players with proper measurable > HS player that wants a check. We have seen a huge change where HS players will become less important and college players that are more mature will become the norm.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:01 am to SemperFiDawg
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The offense play calling is Monkenesque.
Defensive play from Alabama and Oregon was almost nonexistent. That makes offensive play look Monkenesque.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:08 am to Bradb5291
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Who would have ever thought Indiana could be the first team ever to go 16-0.
Would that make them the GOAT?
LSWho fans will shite their diapers. They think they have ownership of that honor.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:09 am to AlaCowboy46
He hit with Mendoza. I want to see him continue to hit in the portal
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:13 am to SemperFiDawg
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Who knew the secret all this time was just recruit older players. So simple a caveman could do it.
You should study the rosters of some of the top teams in the 1920s and 1930s. They had players that had been on 3 or 4 teams before getting on Notre dame or Michigan.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:21 am to SquatchDawg
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Speaking of which - do these 22 year old transfers have at least register as students and go to class? Do they set foot on campus outside of the football facilities
From what I have found with my own playing and friends, etc. There is a whole online class avenue which opens the door for a lot of “scenarios”. Even at the graduate level. It is what they clipped UNC for like 20 years ago in Basketball, but now it is allowed and normalized. This evidence is anecdotal, but I assume it is the standard at many schools. Not all kids go that route I can also attest to.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:19 pm to Griffindawg
You really have to wonder if it is a lightning in the bottle kind of thing. I was thinking about Colorado back when they won their NC. They’ve basically been irrelevant ever since. But NIL, the portal, etc., makes such things possible and probably more likely going forward.
Edit to add that my FIL, who is in his 90’s now, loved watching CFB his whole life but has no interest in watching now. I don’t think it will ever be the same.
Edit to add that my FIL, who is in his 90’s now, loved watching CFB his whole life but has no interest in watching now. I don’t think it will ever be the same.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:43 pm to Litigator
It’s a fool’s errand to pay 17-18 year olds based on POTENTIAL. Only the truly most elite high schoolers should get the big checks. Your hit rate is going to be much higher paying 23 year old full grown men with PROVEN college production. That is where the dollars are going to increasingly go. I hate it, but it is the truth.
1. It is age.
2. It is proven production.
3. It is having played 4+ years in college to strengthen the body and scheme understanding.
1. It is age.
2. It is proven production.
3. It is having played 4+ years in college to strengthen the body and scheme understanding.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 12:45 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Cignetti has done a great job, there's no doubt, but stop acting like he's taken a bunch of 2 star players straight from high school and built them up himself.
I saw a stat saying 14 of their 22 starters were recruited directly out of high school to Indiana or by Cignetti at James Madison and transferred with him.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:11 pm to Griffindawg
Calling a 23 year old geriatric hurts my in his 40’s heart.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:19 pm to Griffindawg
Anytime nowadays that Georgia isn't the clear-cut best team in the country, an inordinate number of Georgia fans will bitch and moan.
That's how you know that Georgia is an elite program with an elite coach.
That's how you know that Georgia is an elite program with an elite coach.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 1:56 pm to Chainsaw Massaquoi
My question is if everyone else decides to go this route Who recruits and develops the high school players to continue feeding the portal machine?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:22 pm to RedPants
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Calling a 23 year old geriatric hurts my in his 40’s heart
I’m 39 lol
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