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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

They were going to take a second mortgage out on the house to pay for it, and if that Trans Am was what I wanted, well, that's what I was going to be getting.

Sounds like a really good way for a booster to cover his tracks. Put the title in HW's name and a second mortgage in his parents' name.
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Maybe, just maybe, Herschel is special.

He most definitely is, but, again, he's not infallible. He's human.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:05 pm to
Y'all keep sticking your head in the sand. It was the early 80s in college football. Everybody got paid.

I'm not criticizing Walker's character. I'm just criticizing his judgement of Gurley's character.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31968 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:08 pm to
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I'm not criticizing Walker's character.


Yes, you are. You're calling him a liar, a cheat, and a hypocrite.


What am I missing here?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17524 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:08 pm to
Crow, you are better than this...
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:11 pm to
Hey guys, where there's smoke there's fire... We don't need proof...
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Yes, you are. You're calling him a liar, a cheat, and a hypocrite.

I've lied before. I've cheated before. I've been a hypocrite before. Despite all those things, I think I'm doing alright.

We all make mistakes. Including Herschel Walker.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21825 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:11 pm to

He was still investigated on this matter because of published reports and lots of rumors. Again, HW has no evidence right now of Gurley's wrongdoing.....so far, all anyone has besides UGA and NCAA is a wacko saying he has paid Gurley but has no proof.....


LINK

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WALKER CASE WILL BE INVESTIGATED



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'I haven't seen a contract,'' Walker said then. ''I've heard a lot of rumors. There are no thoughts in my mind I've broken N.C.A.A. rules. I know the rules front and back, better than anyone in the books.''


Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Crow, you are better than this...

I guess not. I'm giving you my honest opinion on his comments.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31968 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:12 pm to
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We all make mistakes. Including Herschel Walker.

What were Herschel's mistakes?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:14 pm to
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What were Herschel's mistakes?

In this case, questioning Gurley's character in a manner that I believe to be hypocritical.

I don't follow him around in his everyday life, so I won't comment beyond that.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31968 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:16 pm to
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In this case, questioning Gurley's character

When did he do that?

Certainly not in this article...
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:17 pm to
Well in Herschel's defense he didn't have to play in the era of ebay, message boards, ESPN, camera phones, etc.

Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Sounds like a really good way for a booster to cover his tracks. Put the title in HW's name and a second mortgage in his parents' name


Holy crap man. There was a mortgage on their house. Do you really think in the 80s, they wouldn't have just given him cash. I guess the Bank of Dublin was in on it too. Hey maybe UGA is paying for the car in my name and the mortgage on my house that is in my name with a regulated BANK.

I respect you Crow, but you are digging a hole here.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21825 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:18 pm to
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in this case, questioning Gurley's character


I agree. I think the world of Herschel and appreciate all he's done for UGA athletics and academics. However, he should not be speaking about Gurley right now. Again, he has no proof. Just like the rest of us. There's some guy, saying he paid Gurley and he doesn't have proof......

Herschel was accused of many things without proof as well....he was also investigated by the NCAA. He certainly shouldn't be making public statements about "where there's smoke...."
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:19 pm to
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Certainly not in this article...

Yes, he did. The part where he talks about how the Heisman stands for more than football and integrity, etc,, then says he can't vote for Gurley because of that.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:20 pm to
Ok guys, you are right. Herschel can do no wrong. He didn't use "where there's smoke there's fire" to judge another player. It was bad info from an insider. Let's all post trite gifs now...
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21825 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:22 pm to
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In this case, questioning Gurley's character


quote:

When did he do that?

Certainly not in this article...




"I think Todd realized what he did is wrong"

Pretty sure he's questioning it with this statement. He's saying Todd took money and realizes it was wrong....

Again, all he has is a rumor from some guy claiming he paid Gurley with no proof.....
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
944 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:23 pm to
Herschel most certainly questioned TGs character:

quote:

The Heisman Trophy is supposed to be about integrity. Until his (Jameis) act is cleaned up, I cannot give him my vote. And it is the same time with Todd Gurley. Right at this moment, I cannot give Gurley my vote.


As somebody else said here, nobody should be doing that except for UGA, the NCAA, and anybody else who might have hard evidence or more facts than we do.

Not giving TG a heisman vote right now is okay, but that should be because he's off the field....maybe only plays half a season...not because of a character issue (yet).
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:23 pm to
You guys should read the article again.

1. The "where there's smoke" quote was directed at Winston for his numerous actions.
2. Even with that, Herschel hopes a coach will sit and help Winston out.
3. He says he does not know the facts about Gurley but what is important is that the coaches sat with him.
4. He said he would not vote for Gurley until this is cleared up, not an accusation, he, like us, have to wait.

It's like you read every other word and string them together randomly.

Once again.... ,

The same people who are convinced that Gurley took money and admitted it (else why would we have suspended him if not) hold it against Herschel for making the same conclusion.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25882 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

I respect you Crow, but you are digging a hole here.

TBH, it seems like the hole I'm supposedly digging has more to do with hero worship than anything else.
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