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re: Fromm Drafted By The Bills

Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:26 pm to
He'll never be a starter.

Could be a backup for 2-4 years
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 9:59 pm to
Jake will do well in life after the NFL, regardless of whether that’s sooner or later.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21609 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:01 pm to
I honestly hope he eventually plays for the Bills just to see him go head to head against Tua again.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49296 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:39 am to
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Detroit

At least Jacksonville has nice weather
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1370 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:47 pm to
I thought the earliest he would go would be the 4th round and he went lower than that. I hate to see these kids jump out early and leave a lot of their college career behind them. I think someone is filling them with some bad info when it comes to draft status.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60032 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 2:19 pm to
Jake cashed out as soon as his stock was at the absolute rock bottom. Terrible decision making by him, and his family to leave for the draft the way he did. It's all over but the crying now.

Onward to the Jamie Newman era
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 8:42 pm to
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Jake will do well in life after the NFL, regardless of whether that’s sooner or later

Somebody's got to buy David Greene's insurance agency.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:03 pm to
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Jake cashed out as soon as his stock was at the absolute rock bottom


IDK.His stock supposedly plummeted during the combine and I don't think his physical skills were gonna improve in a year.

Eason made big mistake IMO.Lots of skills but he needed more reps and little more maturity.
This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 9:07 pm
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13165 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:17 pm to
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Jake cashed out as soon as his stock was at the absolute rock bottom


IDK.His stock supposedly plummeted during the combine and I don't think his physical skills were gonna improve in a year.


Jake should have stayed and enjoyed another year of college football. He just doesn't have the arm strength to be a starting NFL QB and he sure can't make up for it with his legs.
People on the Rant often talk about how UGA underachieves with all our in-state talent but the only NFL level QB we have ever had was Matt Stafford and unfortunately we didn't have sufficient support around him.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 7:27 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25617 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Matt Stafford


We had a young Matt Stafford, too.
He was 20 years old when he played his last game as a dawg (murray was 20 years old when his first season ended. Burrow is an old man at 23 years old right now. Imagine if we had a 23 year old Stafford.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64033 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:45 pm to
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People on the Rant often talk about how UGA underachieves with all our in-state talent but the only NFL level QB we have ever had was Matt Stafford


Stafford was from Texas.


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and unfortunately we didn't have sufficient supporting around him.



Like AJ Green and Knowshon Moreno?



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Jake should have stayed and enjoyed another year of college football.



I agree with this, but I'm not sure what other point you are trying to make.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:11 am to
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uld have stayed and enjoyed another year of college football. He just doesn't have the arm strength to be a starting NFL QB and he sure can't make up for it with his legs. People on the Rant often talk about how UGA underachieves with all our in-state talent but the only NFL level QB we have ever had was Matt Stafford and unfortunately we didn't have sufficient supporting around him.


Weve had perfectly serviceable CFB QBs in the past but really good ones have been scarce. Fromm had moments of brilliance but far more moments where he was just off. He was also very bad occasionally. Given how much better he was when under pressure not only during the game but when he was being pushed by another QB I think it is fair to question his work ethic. If he had the work ethic of Peyton Manning he'd be as good as anyone ever....that kind of devotion to craft is rare though....I know I ain't ever had it!
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21805 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:22 am to
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If he had the work ethic of Peyton Manning he'd be as good as anyone ever....


From everything I have heard, he had an incredible work ethic. I honestly believe that he was trying to get his arm strength up to showcase it. Because of that, he was overthrowing and trying to force passes when his true arm strength did not allow it.

When he realized that it wasn't happening, he tried to go back to his old motion and touch, but then his timing was off and was throwing it behind his recievers.

I actually pointed this out a few times during the season with examples.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:34 am to
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From everything I have heard, he had an incredible work ethic. I honestly believe that he was trying to get his arm strength up to showcase it. Because of that, he was overthrowing and trying to force passes when his true arm strength did not allow it. When he realized that it wasn't happening, he tried to go back to his old motion and touch, but then his timing was off and was throwing it behind his recievers. I actually pointed this out a few times during the season with examples.


This could be...I certainly do not know him personally. I do know people though and being obsessed with perfection is a weird trait...that usually winds up with the person failing miserably but can lead to success at the highest level. Almost all of us fall somewhere in the middle and do OK....but the margins are TIGHT for NFL QBs...what are there, 100 of them at any given point in time with maybe 5 who are really good? Those that are really good for years seem to be obsessed with near perfection.....I think Joe Burrow showed this in spades this year....he may not be able to maintain it going forward but he definitely went to a level he hadn't been seen at before.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64033 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:23 pm to
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.I think Joe Burrow showed this in spades this year....he may not be able to maintain it going forward but he definitely went to a level he hadn't been seen at before.


It will be hard to maintain without the PED's he got away with in college.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:41 pm to
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Weve had perfectly serviceable CFB QBs in the past but really good ones have been scarce


What?

We've had the leading passer in SEC history and another who was a #1 pick


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QB I think it is fair to question his work ethic. If he had the work ethic of Peyton Manning he'd be as good as anyone ever..


Not really. His work ethic was never question at UGA

Good article in the AJC on why he fell in the draft LINK

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Georgia Bulldogs' NFL destinations

Re: Jake Fromm. What happened? And what now?

Monday, April 27, 2020 @ 12:13 PM

By 

Mark Bradley, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

   

Regarding Jake Fromm, you have questions. Pretty sure he does, too. Today’s exercise: trying to find answers as to why a collegiate quarterback who went 35-7 as a starter in the Just Means More SEC saw 166 players drafted before him. 

Q: How much did Fromm’s NFL combine showing hurt? 

A: Tons. He came across as unathletic in Indianapolis, which is hard to believe. He was hitting home runs and striking out batters in the Little League World Series at age 13. He played summer baseball for an East Cobb travel team. He was a four-year starter and threw 116 touchdown passes for Houston County High in the state’s most difficult region. He started every game at Georgia except his first. He held the job despite the presence, in different years, of Jacob Eason and Justin Fields, both rated slightly higher as recruits. Eason and Fields wound up transferring. Fromm’s Georgia was 3-0 against Florida, 3-1 against Auburn, 2-0 against Notre Dame. Were he a stumblebum, wouldn’t it have showed by now? 

Q: Why did NFL execs put so much stock in the combine? 

A: Because it was their last live glimpse of Fromm, albeit in shorts and a T-shirt. Georgia’s Pro Day was canceled because of the pandemic. He wasn’t available for post-Indy in-person interviews with everything locked down, and he’d have aced those. It has been reported his Wonderlic score was 35. By way of comparison, Joe Burrow’s was 34. Tom Brady’s was 33. 







Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:39 pm to
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Not really. His work ethic was never question at UGA Good article in the AJC on why he fell in the draft


I never said it was questioned at UGA...I suggested it may have been the difference between being very good and being very great.....Fromm was perfectly serviceable with flashes of brilliance....had he put forth some extra effort who can say he wouldn't have been more brilliant than not? This is generally true....if not then he was playing above his head and not as good as he looked in reality.....usually most people perform at a level that they are comfortable in....when needed they can kick it up a notch for a short burst...Fromm seemed to have done that when being pushed for playing time...steel honing steel....that indicates that, had he wanted, he had a little extra in the tank that could've been the difference between very good and great.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:56 pm to
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I never said it was questioned at UGA...I suggested it may have been the difference between being very good and being very great


It wasn't and to make the suggestion is flat out silly.

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brilliance....had he put forth some extra effort who can say he wouldn't have been more brilliant than not? This is generally true.


There's not one shred of evidence to suggest he didn't put "extra effort" into
his college career.

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...steel honing steel....


What?
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 3:41 pm to
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Like AJ Green and Knowshon Moreno?


He only had Green for one year and Moreno for two.

The point is Stafford never had offensive lines even comparable to Fromm's, and his defenses were certainly not comparable to what Fromm has enjoyed.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:45 am to
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quote:I never said it was questioned at UGA...I suggested it may have been the difference between being very good and being very great It wasn't and to make the suggestion is flat out silly. quote:brilliance....had he put forth some extra effort who can say he wouldn't have been more brilliant than not? This is generally true. There's not one shred of evidence to suggest he didn't put "extra effort" into his college career. quote:...steel honing steel.... What?


So you are stating there was nothing more he could've done to better at UGA and he what he produced was the most he could've produce. His resume at UGA is not one to be taken lightly....he was VERY good...so you may be right...he was either playing at he zenith of his ability or was playing slightly under his peak and could not have improved at all with any extra effort. If this is the case, and I am not saying it ain't, it doesn't bode well at the next level. However, I think he can improve and can make it at the next level.....but if his career at UGA was unimprovable through actions on his part, as you are suggesting, he will have a hard time in the NFL making it beyond a couple of years, still, nothing to sneeze at or be ashamed of.....very few people do make it in the NFL at all, let alone more than one spring training...to make a team is a near mathematical impossibility when compared to the number of football players there are in the US.

I am not saying Fromm was a slacker...I am saying I think he can be better with some effort....I'd bet he would agree....I'd hate to think a young man was of the opinion that he peaked at 20 and his ability we on a downward trend....he is a competitor, there is no question of that...and competitors usually can find something in themselves that they didn't need or realize they had until faced with adversity. He showed signs of this when he was being pushed for the starting position, as little as he ever was at UGA....he stepped it up....when he wasn't being pushed he wasn't as good....thus sell honing steel....competition makes any competitor better....unless, as you suggest, they are already operating at the zenith of their ability....then they are stuck with nothing left to give....I bet Fromm wouldn't accept that......I bet he thinks he has the ability to get better through effort, but you could be right.
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