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Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:08 pm to tgdawg68
It seems like you "cherry picked" those countries. I never said "all" European countries. There are plenty more European countries with lower death rates than the United States. My point here is that if the United States is truly "great" to the point we can tell all of the other countries to go frick themselves, we better be able to be back it up.
No, just Trump.
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Amazing how some will 'cherry pick' in an attempt to make the US look bad.
No, just Trump.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:09 pm to deeprig9
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We were (and are) testing dead bodies for covid. Europe was not.
Source?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:11 pm to deeprig9
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They are intellectually dishonest pieces of human garbage.
It seems that for someone who loves calling people he disagrees with snowflakes all of the time, you are really easy to trigger.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:23 am to deeprig9
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Then we start testing more than everyone else, by alot, and we detect more cases, and their story is that we are a shite show. They aren't stupid. They are intellectually dishonest pieces of human garbage.
Blaming this shite show on good testing is classic MAGA spin, which is more intellectually dishonest than anything else in this time. Go enjoy your pop tart little rig mind.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:33 am to djsdawg
My favorite spin is the extra deaths in the USA reported as covid. Like car crashes heart attacks, strokes and what not. How come flu deaths are down so much this year?
Also we really believe that China only had 4,800 deaths? Which leads us to....
“USA makes up 25% of all deaths” that’s the Democrats favorite bullshite talking point.
Also we really believe that China only had 4,800 deaths? Which leads us to....
“USA makes up 25% of all deaths” that’s the Democrats favorite bullshite talking point.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:51 am to Griffindawg
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Like car crashes heart attacks, strokes and what not.
Link for a large amount of covid Car crashes?
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How come flu deaths are down so much this year?
Link making this claim?
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Also we really believe that China only had 4,800 deaths?
No.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:35 am to Griffindawg
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My favorite spin is the extra deaths in the USA reported as covid. Like car crashes heart attacks, strokes and what not. How come flu deaths are down so much this year
I don’t know about any of those individual causes of death, but overall deaths are up significantly. Do you have an alternative explanation for the rise, if it’s not COVID? LINK
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bullshite talking point
Why is it bullshite? China took it seriously, unlike Trump. I’m not condoning China’s draconian tactics they used on their people, but they certainly did not downplay the threat after the initial surge.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:56 am to baconwaffle
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I don’t know about any of those individual causes of death, but overall deaths are up significantly. Do you have an alternative explanation for the rise, if it’s not COVID?
I believe his point is that a lot of those deaths are happening, but being marked COVID because the person had COVID.
Also, half of all COVID deaths happened in a nursing home. 55% of all residents of a nursing home die within the first 6 months and the mean is 5 months for all nursing home residents.
Other countries are not counting it the way we are counting
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:36 am to IT_Dawg
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I believe his point is that a lot of those deaths are happening, but being marked COVID because the person had COVID.
I guess I am confused on what he means to that end, specifically. COVID doesn’t kill through a new symptomatic mechanism. It attacks both the respiratory and cardiovascular systems. So yes, the proximate cause of death will be, e.g., pneumonia, heart attack, or stroke. But COVID causes those symptoms. As far as car crashes go, I will wait for him to show evidence that someone who died from blunt force trauma, laceration, etc., from a car crash, was actually classified as a COVID death.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:52 am to baconwaffle
Exactly this guy gets it.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:17 pm to baconwaffle
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China took it seriously
by hiding it and lying about it?
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:20 pm to baconwaffle
quote:You mean shutting down travel and sending PPE to Asia/EU to slow it's chances of making it to the US before anyone else thought to?
Why is it bullshite? China took it seriously, unlike Trump. I’m not condoning China’s draconian tactics they used on their people, but they certainly did not downplay the threat after the initial surge.
While the Dems were calling him a racist and xenophobe for doing this?
And while the Dems were "downplaying" the virus to a point they were telling people to ignore the warnings and come party with them in parades and do what they normally do?
And if Trump would have been more "draconian" with his tactics, too (which is clearly what you're advocating he should have done to "take it seriously" just like China did), then not only would the Dems and media have gone apeshit calling him a tyrant/totalitarian/dictator, but you know damn well YOU would have been here crying that he's being a tyrant, too.
It doesn't matter what he would have done, you would still be complaining and hating.
Also, masks are a double-edged sword. They are arguably making things worse, just as the extended lockdowns are/have made things much worse than the actual virus.
Extended use of face masks and seclusion do just as much to harm and diminish a person's immunity and infection fighting systems, as well as damn near every other biological system we have, as it does attempting to prevent infection.
On top of this, wearing a face mask not only causes people to inhale significantly more carbon dioxide (causing possible pseudo-asphixiation, nerve damage, brain damage, renal damage, respiratory damage), but it greatly suppresses oxygen intake, increases cortisol levels, and stresses the respiratory function (a pseudo-hypoxic state) to the point it creates a very dangerous sympathomimetic overdrive (an overall reduction/suppression of your sympathetic system). Which can not only cause irreparable permanent damage to your lungs, heart, arteries, nervous system, and brain function, but it can very easily make you so immuno-deficient, that you get horribly sick from everything all the time, including COVID.
PLUS, these masks really only keep potentially exposed/infected people from transmitting it to others via droplets. But this virus is already supposedly airborn, and the molecules are so small, they easily pass through the pours of a mask and any slight gaps between your face and the mask every time you inhale.
The media and Establishment, and the "experts" they pay to deliver the "narrative" to you, is not for your/our benefit. These people don't freaking care about us.
How many times can you see them openly lie and mislead you about shite and you decide to stop trusting and believing them? It's astounding that folks like you just keep accepting what they say as truth or fact over and over. I just don't get how you do this to yourself.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:21 pm to DawgCountry
The covered up at first, but then got their act together. I am not excusing the Chinese governments behavior. It’s just sad that our current administration bungled it far worse than the Chinese.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:28 pm to BeefDawg
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And if Trump would have been more "draconian" with his tactics, too (which is clearly what you're advocating he should have done to "take it seriously" just like China did
No I’m not. You literally cannot help yourself from putting words in other people’s mouths. There are plenty of other liberal (small “l”) democracies who have their situation under control, with South Korea being the gold standard. I would advocate for the South Korean approach. My point in bringing up China is that it’s sad they have it under control and we don’t.
And please cite some evidence for the massive pile of bologna you spew about masks.
I listen to doctors and scientists. If doctors and scientists now qualify as the “deep state”, then I guess I’m above salvation. I’m not going to listen to the swamp monsters and sycophants with whom Trump has filled his administration.
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:39 pm to baconwaffle
quote:Right, the country that "accidentally" let this thing escape from one of their labs, who then welded people inside their apartment complexes, dragged people to "quarantine camps" by force, quarantined off multiple cities with over 50 million people cut off from everything, including resources like food, fuel delivery (to heat homes/water/etc), and medical care, and then suddenly one day stopped at 80,000 deaths smack in the middle of all this for no rational explanation....
The covered up at first, but then got their act together. I am not excusing the Chinese governments behavior. It’s just sad that our current administration bungled it far worse than the Chinese.
Yeah, so much better handling and totally believable.
I mean, we went from supposedly 2.2 million supposed to die this year to very likely less than 200k. Maybe even less than that if Democrat Governors and Mayors would stop flooding old-folks homes with COVID positive sick people. And, our hospitals didn't get overwhelmed or run out of PPE or ventilators.
Only one of you Lefties would suggest that the country that ended up with 10% of estimated deaths did a worse job than the country that RELEASED THE frickING VIRUS.
Jesus H Christ, it's hard to stay civil with you people.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:08 pm to baconwaffle
quote:Dr.Rashid Buttar
And please cite some evidence for the massive pile of bologna you spew about masks.
I listen to doctors and scientists. If doctors and scientists now qualify as the “deep state”, then I guess I’m above salvation. I’m not going to listen to the swamp monsters and sycophants with whom Trump has filled his administration.
Dr. Margaret Harris
Dr. Rashi Desai - Surgical masks vs. N95, droplets vs arisol virus, healthcare workers vs normal people, etc.
ABC News Good Morning America - you really need to watch this one, especially all the Liberals telling you not to wear a mask.
And I could go on and on. Good lord, you are so ignorant and blind.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:16 pm to BeefDawg
For accusing other people of being dishonest, you sure are taking that Good Morning America clip extremely out of context.
That clip was from 4 months ago when masks were in extremely short supply and our hospitals were literally running out of them. That’s why the one guy said not to buy and wear the masks. In the same clip, they explained that masks prevent a sick person from spreading the virus. Exactly. That’s what we “Lefties” have been saying for months. Are you sure you even watched that clip?
That clip was from 4 months ago when masks were in extremely short supply and our hospitals were literally running out of them. That’s why the one guy said not to buy and wear the masks. In the same clip, they explained that masks prevent a sick person from spreading the virus. Exactly. That’s what we “Lefties” have been saying for months. Are you sure you even watched that clip?
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:27 pm to baconwaffle
That comic book art sums up most of the MAGA’s.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:33 pm to baconwaffle
quote:You are so dishonest it's just sad.
For accusing other people of being dishonest, you sure are taking that Good Morning America clip extremely out of context.
That clip was from 4 months ago when masks were in extremely short supply and our hospitals were literally running out of them. That’s why the one guy said not to buy and wear the masks. In the same clip, they explained that masks prevent a sick person from spreading the virus. Exactly. That’s what we “Lefties” have been saying for months. Are you sure you even watched that clip?
The doctor they had on at the end said everything I said earlier.
The surgical masks are useless because COVID goes right through them, and the N95 masks should be used by health professionals and only sick/symptomatic people or vulnerable people.
Normal healthy uninfected people should not wear them. They all said that.
And you know damn well that you and the rest of the Lefties here have been telling EVERYONE to wear them, and acting like people who don't wear them are bad somehow.
The other doctors I posted all say the same thing.
I kicked your arse with this and now you're spinning. Let's just let people watch the video and they'll see how stupid and dishonest your are acting.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 1:38 pm
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