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re: DawgRant is burning

Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:38 pm to
Yeah that was incorrect to say. I don't even know why I typed it.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:39 pm to
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Now i'm not saying everyone was predicting 10 wins in year 1, but they sure as shite thought the days of showing up flat, undisciplined, uncompetitive, and unprepared were finally behind us.



That will never be behind us. That will always happen.



It's tradition, mostly.

Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:42 pm to
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So if players don't do what a coach wants, the blame is on the players?


Yes. "Don't" implicates willingness, not ability. Willingness is on the players. "Can't" would indicate that the players lack the ability to do what the coach wants.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:45 pm to
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it's the coaches job to find a way to make them do what he says.


The team's not a Roman legion - the coach doesn't have unchecked authority to discipline them. Beyond that, he still has to field a team, so he can't just kick out or bench everyone who doesn't agree with him.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:45 pm to
I wasn't convinced he would be an upgrade, instant or otherwise. Maybe the "process" will work and throwing Chubb's and Michel's last season with us away will be worth it. I hope it is. But I don't think the team is playing anything close to what it could be and that's a complete failure on his part. He's responsible for everyone - that's why he's the head coach. Not the freshman coach.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25878 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:52 pm to
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I wasn't convinced he would be an upgrade, instant or otherwise. Maybe the "process" will work and throwing Chubb's and Michel's last season with us away will be worth it.

Unfortunately, their last season has gradually been thrown away over the past 4 years by the failure to sign and develop parts around them.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:58 pm to
If it weren't for a 222 yard game from the slow version of Chubb, I would agree. But you don't have that kind of game without some good blocking. That means the potential is there. You can't possibly believe this is as good as this team can be this year?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25878 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:00 pm to
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You can't possibly believe this is as good as this team can be this year?

No, but I think we're undermanned on the OL vs the DL of most of the teams we play, and we don't have a consistent enough passing game to make teams back up.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:05 pm to
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and we don't have a consistent enough passing game to make teams back up.

It's easy to daisy chain these excuses together, but you can't talk about our passing game without bringing up the lack of a go to receiver. McKenzie is a perfect slot receiver, but we literally have no one to throw to on the outside that can catch reliably.

Only time can prove this theory correct, but it seems like two full recruiting cycles has to fix some of these things. Especially on the lines.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:27 pm to
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I knew it was too good to last. Vanderbilt beat us. Nothing fluky about it. no trick plays. No odd bounce of the ball. They lined up across from us and played good, hard nosed football, and we didn't.


First Downs: UGA -23, Vandy - 9
Total yds: UGA - 421, Vandy - 171
Time of Possession: UGA - 35:04, Vandy - 24:56
Score: UGA - 16, Vandy - 17

I don't think we were watching the same game. We totally outplayed Vandy. The only play Vandy had was a kickoff return to our 4.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:07 pm to
UNC is 106th in the nation against the run, just saying.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14213 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:32 pm to
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Richt's players messed up, and people defended Richt, Pruitt, Bobo whoever by saying " its not like the coaches teach them these things".


It's actually turned out far worse than we thought. Richts coaching and that shitshow behind the scenes was so bad last year that it's going to the equivalent of a coaching exorcism to drive the bad habits out of our players. The upper classmen are probably already lost. They're football retarded.

Like covering a kickoff with 9 guys on one side of the hash or double teaming a DE when the run is to the unblocked defender on the other side retarded. Running past your three 300 lb blockers into a crowd of defenders retarded. I'm surprised Davis didn't stretch and drag his feet on the kickoff last weekend that went OB so he could drag it in at the 3.

You can't fix that shite in one season.

Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24034 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:28 pm to
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It's actually turned out far worse than we thought. Richts coaching and that shitshow behind the scenes was so bad last year that it's going to the equivalent of a coaching exorcism to drive the bad habits out of our players. The upper classmen are probably already lost. They're football retarded.


Is this serious?
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7006 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:35 pm to
When we receive Florida's first kickoff will Reggie Davis be our return man?

Will Brisco be one of our cornerbacks against the Gators?

Will our first two offensive plays against the Gators be runs up the middle for no gain.

Will we do the same shite over and over and over?

Will Kirby wonder why we lost the game?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14213 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:50 pm to
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Is this serious?


As serious as wanting to fire a first year coach after 7 games when the normal standard is a 2 to 3 year grace period to get his own players in the system. Why doesn't CKS get this same grace period? Because he's not Tom Herman?

I don't leave anything to chance when one of our leading tacklers has no pot on them but shows the cops where he normally keeps his stash. Thats just not right.



Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:34 pm to
Very few here really want Smart fired. The ones who say it are most likely trolling the Smart Disneys.

The Smart Disney's literally blame most of Smart's issues on Richt which makes for easy trolling.

Yet,

The facts are as follows..

Smart has underperformed thus far.

Smart has not shown to be a guy who can play the hand dealt and succeed.

UGA is a sleeping giant.

Smart will most likely recruit better talent.

The issue I see is this... if Smart can not beat teams who UGA is more talented than now, why should we expect him to win it all when he gets more talent?

Is he going to learn to be a better coach?

Is he going to hire a better staff?

These are all legit questions and concerns. None are guaranteed... if I could remember the password for Red Coat, I think even he would agree.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:20 am to
[quote]So if players don't do what a coach wants, the blame is on the players? quote]

um yeah..jeff...that's exactly right...you cant motivate guys who don't care to be motivated...doesn't matter how good you are...things change when you get guys that but in from the get go...what is so hard for you to understand about that concept?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:44 am to
bullshite... there are ways for a leader to lead all different types of people. There may be a few players who lost their jobs who may be harder to reach, but that would mean they were replaced by better players... which is a win for Smart. Not sure how this translated into a team that no longer wants to play.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:52 am to
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First Downs: UGA -23, Vandy - 9
Total yds: UGA - 421, Vandy - 171
Time of Possession: UGA - 35:04, Vandy - 24:56
Score: UGA - 16, Vandy - 17

I don't think we were watching the same game. We totally outplayed Vandy. The only play Vandy had was a kickoff return to our 4.


Oh, I agree we outplayed them. So, the only conclusion you can come up with is we should have won.
That isn't fluky, though. There was no lucky bounce, or weird play. That's what the complaints have been. We should have won easily and didn't. They did what we could not. I totally agree with you that we outplayed Vandy statistically.

Where we got beat, was we ran the ball up the middle over and over when it was not working. Caught kickoffs and stepped out of bounds. Tried to pick punts up off the turf and fumbled with the ball until coverage caught up, dumb decision making.....it was these things that everybody blamed on Richt that Smart was supposed to correct.

For the record, I didn't think it was the coaches fault when our DB's didn't knock the ball down against Auburn. I also didn't blame Richt when Michel and Chubb fumbled going into the end zone against GT. But there were plenty of people that did. They said it was coaching.

I also don't believe Davis and McKenzie's brain freezes are Smart's fault. these are decisions that High School players are taught. However, if people want to blame coaching, then lets blame coaching.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:54 am to
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As serious as wanting to fire a first year coach after 7 games when the normal standard is a 2 to 3 year grace period to get his own players in the system.


Squatch. We've seen one person suggest Samrt should be fired. Samson'sseed. Did you really take him seriously?
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