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re: David Greene and Jake Fromm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:02 pm to AlaCowboy
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:02 pm to AlaCowboy
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Fromm had better stats doesn't mean he did a better job at what his goal was than what Greene did.
Actually it does.DG was a DGD but not close to Fromm IMO.He was a TRUE freshman that led us to a NC and he did it with better numbers than ant true freshman in history.
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Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:02 pm to RD Dawg
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Not even close to '16 or '15.And both OT's played in the NFL.Inman had 10+ years I believe.
Check the sack totals. Nothing comes close. Fromm would have struggled in the same
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Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:21 pm to RD Dawg
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not close to Fromm IMO.He was a TRUE freshman that led us to a NC
Fromm didn't LEAD us to the NC game. He contributed greatly, but Chubb and Michel led us there.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:17 pm to AlaCowboy
Highly doubt we make it with Eason.He had the best freshman year in UGA history.We dont beat OU and ND without him.
No offense but you really dont appreciate the guy and you seem to forget about the bad performances of Green,Murray,Stafford,etc at the same stages in their careers
No offense but you really dont appreciate the guy and you seem to forget about the bad performances of Green,Murray,Stafford,etc at the same stages in their careers
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:22 pm to djsdawg
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Check the sack totals. Nothing comes close. Fromm would have struggled in the same
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Green was statue in the pocket but look at his yards and comp percentage.It was his best year for both.So he obviously had time to throw foe 3.000+ yards
Posted on 6/28/19 at 9:44 am to RD Dawg
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DG was a DGD but not close to Fromm IMO
Agreed. Nothing about David Greene's career leads me to believe he could have quarterbacked Georgia to 54 points in that Rose Bowl against Oklahoma. He was great in clutch moments, but those games often ended in scores like 26-24, 24-21, 31-28, etc. I do not believe he was the kind of guy who could keep up if the other QB came out smoking (a la Mayfield in the Rose Bowl or Mett in the 2013 LSU game). Just my opinion. He was great at what he was asked to do, though.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:55 am to RD Dawg
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He had the best freshman year in UGA history.We dont beat OU and ND without him.
I agree. But without Chubb and Michel we would not have made it to the Playoff or the NC game. 2018 results back that up..
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:05 am to VADawg
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Just my opinion. He was great at what he was asked to do, though.
I know I pointed out his '03 year but we did seem to score a lot of points and he did pass for 3,000+ yards.
We obviously scored slot of rushing TD's and we also had a stellar defense.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:07 am to RD Dawg
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you seem to forget about the bad performances of Green,Murray,Stafford,etc at the same stages in their careers
The 01, 06, and 10 UGA teams weren't even close to being as good top to bottom as 2017 was. Also 01 UT and UF, 06 UF, and 10 AU are all better than any team we played in the 17 regular season.
I think as time has gone on David Greene has kind of been "normalized" so to speak, seeing as how he was practically a deity by the time he left. And i DO think that Fromm is the better QB. But it's just so hard to compare QBs that have entirely different teams, opponents, etc.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:42 am to WG_Dawg
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I think as time has gone on David Greene has kind of been "normalized" so to speak, seeing as how he was practically a deity by the time he left
Disagree, Greene has been put on a huge pedestal by many UGA fans.Hobnail and the Auburn pass are what the fans will always remember (rightfully so)
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:41 pm to VADawg
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Nothing about David Greene's career leads me to believe he could have quarterbacked Georgia to 54 points in that Rose Bowl against Oklahoma.
Maybe you forgot a out that 45 spot vs sabans LSU in 2004.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 12:46 pm to RD Dawg
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Disagree, Greene has been put on a huge pedestal by many UGA fans.Hobnail and the Auburn pass are what the fans will always remember (rightfully so)
I don't dispute that. What I'm saying is that in the early-mid 2000s he was revered and some people would claim he was maybe the best QB we'd ever had in our history. In the following years though after being exposed to DJ, Stafford, Murray, and now Fromm, his accomplishments and especially statistics don't really look quite as impressive.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 6:23 pm to AlaCowboy
Yah, really different players. A lot Greene's success relied on using play action. He was a great ball handler and it was really hard to tell when he was or was not handing the ball off. I think Fromm needs to be the star in big games in order to increase his draft stock. NFL teams are looking for a guy who can lead them in crunch time. While Fromm has had limited chances to be that guy the only time he came through was Notre Dame.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:32 pm to VADawg
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Agreed. Nothing about David Greene's career leads me to believe he could have quarterbacked Georgia to 54 points in that Rose Bowl against Oklahoma. He was great in clutch moments, but those games often ended in scores like 26-24, 24-21, 31-28, etc. I do not believe he was the kind of guy who could keep up if the other QB came out smoking (a la Mayfield in the Rose Bowl or Mett in the 2013 LSU game). Just my opinion. He was great at what he was asked to do, though.
What?....you dont think Greene could have handed the ball off to Sony or chubb for touchdowns? Not taking away from Fromm who had clutch moments in that game but if I just read what you wrote and hadnt watched for myself id think Fromm threw for 5 TD's and over 500 yards
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:52 pm to BoozeDawg
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? Not taking away from Fromm
Of course not!
Fromm had 2 of the 3 highest QBR's in UGA history.The only one higher was Aarron Murray as a 5th year senior.
He was also had the best year for a true Freshman in UGA history...not even debatable.
Greene is a DGD but the 2 really don't compare and Greene also had a better QB coach and OC IMO.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:20 pm to RD Dawg
Did you read the post? or just cut off half a sentence to fit it into what you wanted to write. curious
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:44 am to BoneDrownedDave
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^^^The Texas game doesn't count. Nobody Georgia wanted to be there. Not the team. Not the fans. Nobody.
I get this but is the stuff that champions are made of? Seriously....the effort we saw in the Sugar Bowl could be indicative of why and how we have managed to lose a national title in what, 3 minutes, and a SEC title in about the same amount of time....the entitled mind set????
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:38 am to BoozeDawg
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Did you read the post? or just cut off half a sentence to fit it into what you wanted to write. curious
You said prefaced your "opinion" by ripping the guy. "Taking away from Fromm" was exactly what you were doing.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:50 pm to RD Dawg
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You said prefaced your "opinion" by ripping the guy. "Taking away from Fromm" was exactly what you were doing.
ripping the guy? How so?
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:23 pm to germandawg
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get this but is the stuff that champions are made of? Seriously....the effort we saw in the Sugar Bowl could be indicative of why and how we have managed to lose a national title in what, 3 minutes, and a SEC title in about the same amount of time....the entitled mind set????
That’s the point. We painfully lost the seccg, which means We weren’t champions, which led to the poor performance. Same thing happens to saban teams.
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