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Posted on 9/14/15 at 1:48 am to RD Dawg
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Pell had 26-33 record and no SEC championships.He was fired for major NCAA recruiting violations. Are you comparing UF's situation in 1983 to UGA and CMR currently?
You miss the point. Spurrier coaching in the non-NFL and at Duke carried a ton of risk.
Meyer not coaching at a major program carried a ton of risk.
You're counter point is that the were "hot" coaching candidates.
So, was Muschamp. One of the hottest bar none. Hell, he had the Texas job wrapped up (HCIW), just didn't want to wait on Brown to call it quits, so he jumped to Fla.
The point is - what do you expect from the program? You want 6 - 10 wins a season and a Florida bowl, you got your man. You want SEC championships and a NC championship, probably not. It is not bad to support Richt, but recognize him for what he will bring. The gift of Pruitt is really nice, enjoy it while you can as someone is going to come knocking. The squatter may be a problem, certainly looked like it vs Vandy.
The best comparison to our Richt is Pelini. He won the following. 9, 10, 10, 9, 10, 9,9 at Nebraska.
They fired him. They wanted more.
Our administration doesn't and all of the Richt supporters don't either. As
And that's OK. I have adjusted my expectations. Just don't bitch when we wind up in the Independence, Gator, Belk, Birmingham or maybe if we play our cards right the Outback bowl, while others populate the major bowls and the playoffs.
As to Pell as an example, they could have done worse as he won some games, so that according to streaker and perhaps you, should be avoided at all costs.
Personally, I have resigned myself to the fact the Richt will retire at the time of his choosing unless the wheels really fall off and the money follows. And being in the top 3rd of the SEC and winning the SEC and A NC is not in the cards. I don't like that, but I accept it.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:22 am to WhopperDawg
What many of you do not realize is that UGA AD is finally in the process of ridding itself of the culture of cheap and the attitude that "we can win without doing it like the other teams". What happened this Christmas was bigger than any coach. Richt was a huge part of it. He has the support of many key $ folks. Possibly more than ever. He is not going anywhere unless he decides to. Spendding a lot of mental energy dwelling on what 'we' need to do to get a better coach is illogical and indicitive of someone with a low IQ and total lack of situational awareness...
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:38 am to WhopperDawg
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The best comparison to our Richt is Pelini. He won the following. 9, 10, 10, 9, 10, 9,9 at Nebraska. They fired him. They wanted more.
Situations are hardly similar. It wasn't just "they wanted more". The AD hated Pelini for reasons other than going 9-4 every year.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 6:40 am to gatorhata9
Pelini made himself a liability off the field.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 7:36 am to Peter Buck
Yup
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:04 am to Jefferson Dawg
I didn't post this. I never use all caps.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:11 am to WhopperDawg
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Spurrier coaching in the non NFL and at Duke carried a ton of risk
Huh?He won an ACC championship at freakin Duke.
He was also an ex heisman winner at Florida and just about every big time supporter of the program wanted him
and the program was in shambles at the time.
Its absurd to call it a risky hire and same with Urban.
Both were extremely successful HC's at P5 schools.Muschamp may have been a "hot commodity"but he had no track record as a HC.Much bigger risk.
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The best comparison to our Richt is Pellini
No,it's not even close.Pellini had ZERO top 10 finishes and conference championships.
CMR has 8 top 10's and 2 SECC and played in another 3.
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:15 am to MSGADawg5988
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During the whole a QB battle I thought Ramsey would pull it out and win the job.
I am curious. How many practices did you go and watch?
If you didn't go to any of the practices why did you think Ramsey would win the job?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:16 am to Cobb Dawg
This board has gone to shite.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:25 am to Peter Buck
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If we don't win it all this season, we may as well shut it down...
it's time we step up or step out...
I mean, it's do or die time..
I mean, it's time we play for the ring instead of the zing.
I mean, our backs are against the wall... it's do or die and its 4th down with the bases loaded and we are taking penalty kicks...
Seriously tho... if we don't win this year then we should fire everyone, kill them, and then dig up their corpses and piss on them... just to show the world we fricking mean it...
Posted on 9/14/15 at 10:33 am to Peter Buck
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Spendding a lot of mental energy dwelling on what 'we' need to do to get a better coach is illogical and indicitive of someone with a low IQ and total lack of situational awareness...
As I said in my post, Richt will retire at a time of his own choosing. Never called for a new coach in this thread. My point is that if you won't change out coaches because the new guy could do worse means you would never change coaches and Muschamp for example would still be at Florida. After all he did win some games. The new guy could do worse.
The point with Spurrier and Meyer is that too carried risk. Spurrier was a pro head coach for 3 years and at Duke for 3. He did pretty well so indicators were there but both jobs are very different than coaching at Fla. Then he went on to the "Skins where he failed as Saban failed at Miami. If coaching experience were instantly transferable between jobs, then both would have been wildly successful in the NFL and Muschamp would have been at Fla also - he was the hot candidate too.
The landscape is littered with coaches that were successful one place or more and failed at their new post. Littered. So, to say the Spurrier and Myer carried no risk is foolish.
The reason I compared to Pelini is that it seemed the primary criteria of RD Dawg is regular season wins and that is OK if that floats his boat.
It has been a decade since we won the SEC. A decade.
The bottom line is what do you want out of the program. What are your goals?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:59 pm to The7Sins
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I only have at best 10 years.
Make hay while the sun shines, brother-man. Glad you're back.
Posted on 9/14/15 at 5:34 pm to WhopperDawg
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So,to say that Spurrier and Meyer carried no risk is foolish
When did I ever say that there was "no risk"?You're the one that stated there was a "ton of risk"
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It seemed the primary criteria of RD Dawg
Since when?Jesus dude,do you have ANY idea of the restrictions of our program compared to UT,Bama,LSU,
or AU.We've NEVER had the numbers of any of those programs.You do know that I would assume?
I want our program to maximize EVERY advantage we have within the rules.
CMR has been to the SECCG 1/3 of his time as our coach.Only Saban has a higher percentage.
OK,so you don't want to get rid of CMR but you just want to bitch about everything in the program?Correct?
Please give me solutions/replacedments you'd like to make?
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:46 pm to Peter Buck
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What many of you do not realize is that UGA AD is finally in the process of ridding itself of the culture of cheap and the attitude that "we can win without doing it like the other teams". What happened this Christmas was bigger than any coach. Richt was a huge part of it. He has the support of many key $ folks. Possibly more than ever. He is not going anywhere unless he decides to. Spendding a lot of mental energy dwelling on what 'we' need to do to get a better coach is illogical and indicitive of someone with a low IQ and total lack of situational awareness...
Now that Richt (or Pruitt?) has gotten his way on every single thing thats been holding him back for the last decade, is he out of excuses? Will he ever be on the hotseat again unless the wheels just fall off?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 8:53 pm to TheGoodLife
The improvements in the program just recently occured
last year and NO other big time SEC coach would've put up with the cheapness and our particular rules about oversigning and weed smoking.
What exactly are your solutions to improve the program?
last year and NO other big time SEC coach would've put up with the cheapness and our particular rules about oversigning and weed smoking.
What exactly are your solutions to improve the program?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:09 pm to RD Dawg
What else is left?
Posted on 9/14/15 at 9:20 pm to TheGoodLife
We just made some major fundemental changes to our program. I think the future looks pretty good.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 5:58 pm to RD Dawg
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What exactly are your solutions to improve the program?
A New coach if there is no new improvement. We have given Charlie B 15 years and we've got 2 SEC titles. shite 35% of the coaches in D1 could have the same record with our talent level. We have top notch talent, Richt's a great rectruiter and really good OC but a Shithole coach. It's do or die time for Charlie B! If we lose to SCjr, I'll have to call the Gambino's and call in my favor!
Posted on 9/15/15 at 6:20 pm to Remington Dawg
138 wins 7 top 10 teams in final AP in 15 years. Not every coach can do that. Look at the records and turnover in coaches in college football.
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