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re: Check in to talk about CKS being too stubborn to change
Posted on 1/18/20 at 12:50 pm to Dick Leverage
Posted on 1/18/20 at 12:50 pm to Dick Leverage
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It goes hand in hand. The bitching from the fans and the criticism from the national media about his archaic offensive approach had a lot to do with him facing the truth. You seem to think that Smart did this based on some kind of self revelation and without influence from the overwhelming criticism he was receiving from all sides. I am glad that he has matured enough to swallow his pride and listen to ,consider , and act on the credible criticisms that were coming in from all fronts. This was a big step for him. I think you have it wrong in wanting to get your lb of flesh from those who helped make this happen. You would have been the same one calling people out if he didn’t do a 180 and stayed with the status quo. The criticizers would have been “negadawgs, sidewalk fans, bitchers,etc.” who didn’t know what they were talking about. This is a really shallow attempt at a gotcha.
How is running the spread “archaic “? What does thst word mean to you?
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Posted on 1/18/20 at 2:09 pm to lewis and herschel
Kirby unequivocally wasted the 2019 season, which featured the best defense in program history, by promoting Coley to OC. Coley is a proven failure as a coordinator at every stop he has had, and that continued here.
All Georgia fans should be thrilled that Kirby was humble enough to own his mistake and make a change. As a result, we have a chance to contend in 2020 and beyond.
All Georgia fans should be thrilled that Kirby was humble enough to own his mistake and make a change. As a result, we have a chance to contend in 2020 and beyond.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 2:18 pm to NCDawg52
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Kirby unequivocally wasted the 2019 season, which featured the best defense in program history, by promoting Coley to OC. Coley is a proven failure as a coordinator at every stop he has had, and that continued here.
All Georgia fans should be thrilled that Kirby was humble enough to own his mistake and make a change. As a result, we have a chance to contend in 2020 and beyond
Ding ding ding. Pretty much sums it up perfectly.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:05 pm to Hobnail
The Goal is a National Title, our offensive personel just weren't going to get it done, we had too many playmakers depart for the NFL.... It was lsu's year, nothing wasted.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:36 pm to Dick Leverage
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The bitching from the fans and the criticism from the national media about his archaic offensive approach had a lot to do with him facing the truth
You really think fans bitching are why he made a change? Did you ever consider that he recognized that the offense was subpar and as HC had to do something about it.
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You seem to think that Smart did this based on some kind of self revelation and without influence from the overwhelming criticism
To make this assumption you have to believe that CKS doesn’t want to win and isn’t trying to figure out ways to improve the team. That he was reluctantly forced to do something about the offense. Do you know how stupid this sounds?
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I am glad that he has matured enough to swallow his prid
You’ve created a reality that doesn’t exist. This is the first year that we had issues on offense and he made significant changes as a result. Again, you sound like he didn’t want to do this which is bullshite.
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from those who helped make this happen.
I can see Smart now checking the Rant thinking “oh shite, Dick Leverage is on to me....dammit I am going to have to actually change something! Curses!”
You didn’t do shite other than create this false narrative to sink your teeth into and bitch about. While everyone agrees that the offense struggled this year and needed a change...a chosen few of you took it to the next level with all the CKS “manball” and “stubborn pride” bullshite when IN FACT he did what he needed (we hope) as soon as the season was over.
I’m surprised you’d even post this stupid shite given the recent developments. It’s like reading an Auburn post on the Rant.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:39 pm to lewis and herschel
It was the promotion to OC that was lazy/stubborn. He has a proven track record of being below average. He is not and will never be an elite OC, especially for a team that has national title aspirations. It was a horrible hire and should have never happened.
Kirby seems to have owned up to that here and fixed (or is earnestly attempting to fix) said mistake.
Kirby seems to have owned up to that here and fixed (or is earnestly attempting to fix) said mistake.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:44 pm to NCDawg52
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Kirby unequivocally wasted the 2019 season
He wasn’t the only one that thought Coley would be able to perform better than he did. A lot of the same people on here bitching about Coley this year were celebrating the departure of “fatty fat fat” because he was “fat” ....which also turned out to be stupid because he actually was a decent OC.
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Kirby was humble enough to own his mistake and make a change.
I didn’t know where humble fits in. He gave Coley a chance and it didn’t work out. He made a change. I highly doubt the offensive philosophy is as much of a personal matter to the coaches as people think.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 3:53 pm to Hobnail
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It was the promotion to OC that was lazy/stubborn.
Or he didn’t want to disrupt the offense for a team that had been to the SECCG twice and Natty once....with an incoming junior QB that at that time was on an upward trajectory. Coley gave him that consistency. The offense wasn’t stellar but other than some unexplainable hiccups was working until this year.
Plus he’s obviously been with Coley a while and CKS gave him a shot. It didn’t work out and now he made some changes. Let’s hope they work out.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 1/18/20 at 4:11 pm to Dick Leverage
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It goes hand in hand. The bitching from the fans and the criticism from the national media about his archaic offensive approach had a lot to do with him facing the truth.
Crap dude. Do you honestly believe that big time college coaches make their decisions based on media and fan opinions? if that were so Justin Fields would still be here at Georgia.
It never fails to amaze me. No matter what they do, they lose. If Kirby doesn't change he is an idiot,. If he does change, then they only reason he changed was because of outside pressures.
I guess being an armchair QB makes you right every time.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 4:57 pm to SquatchDawg
Point is, Coley did not have a track record of success as an OC, in fact quite the opposite. I can understand why Kirby did it for the reasons you mentioned though. Lazy was probably the wrong word for me to use, though it was still a questionable decision from the outside looking in.
In hindsight it was the wrong call, Kirby understands that, and is making changes. So kudos to the man in charge, he wants to win and is doing what it takes.
In hindsight it was the wrong call, Kirby understands that, and is making changes. So kudos to the man in charge, he wants to win and is doing what it takes.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:14 pm to DawgsLife
Kirby doesn't lose if this move leads to championships. Also he should have listened on Fields....
Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:25 pm to VoxDawg
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Is today the day we look back and realize Kirby made the changes we needed to get over the hump?
We should see if Kirby actually allows the OC the freedom to make those needed offensive changes. Today is not the day. We should know on Sept. 19 what changes have been made. Going to that game with my s-i-l. It'll be a long drive home for one of us.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 5:54 pm to NCDawg52
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Kirby unequivocally wasted the 2019 season,
I don’t think you know what the word unequivocally means.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:08 pm to SquatchDawg
Very happy with the change. With all the talent we have surrounding Newman, I don’t see any team beating us next year. That includes @ Bama. If you’re not happy now... there’s no hope.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:19 am to SquatchDawg
The truth is that you believe this was the right move. The truth is also that you would have been on here saying that it was the right move had he remained with status quo. The fact that he made the move justifies the preceding criticisms from fans and media. Your defense of Kirby and your support is bulletproof in that regard. You created it to be so.
He makes the change “Right move. Ha Ha , you bad fans said he would never change.”
He doesn’t make the change- “ anyone complaining is not a real fan”
It is a step in maturity that Kirby could make the change with all of the noise from the outside saying he had a bad approach. Swallowed some pride. Everyone wins. Thanks Kirby.
He makes the change “Right move. Ha Ha , you bad fans said he would never change.”
He doesn’t make the change- “ anyone complaining is not a real fan”
It is a step in maturity that Kirby could make the change with all of the noise from the outside saying he had a bad approach. Swallowed some pride. Everyone wins. Thanks Kirby.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:22 am to Dick Leverage
How do you know Kirby swallowed his pride?
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:27 am to Dick Leverage
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It is a step in maturity that Kirby could make the change with all of the noise from the outside saying he had a bad approach.
At what point has he ever shown immaturity he needed to step up from?
The stubborn, prideful, immature, unwilling to change Kirby Smart is a figment of your imagination or dreams.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:28 am to Dick Leverage
You have zero insight as to what motivated CKS to make changes. Claiming that you do really makes you look like a buffoon.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 7:29 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:31 am to Leon S Kennedy
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Kirby doesn't lose if this move leads to championships. Also he should have listened on Fields....
He made the right decision with the information he had.
You are looking with 20/20 hindsight and acting like everybody should have known. That is not the right way to do it.
Sometimes it is either best to give the coaches the benefit of the doubt, or if you have all the right answers maybe get into the coaching game yourself. You could make millions.
We have posters who criticize who we recruit, what plays are called, and who starts games. They criticize every aspect of the program. they should definitely go into coaching since they have it all figured out.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:35 am to SquatchDawg
All day this. It's hilarious to think whiny fans posting messages influences Kirby's thought process. As for the pundits, their job nowadays is to stir the pot much like journalists in the 24/7 news cycle...if you can't find controversy it just doesn't drive clicks.
I'm thrilled that for 3 consecutive years we've either been in the playoff or a major player in the discussion into DECEMBER. We'll be in it again this year. You need a hell of a lot of stuff to fall your way to win a natty...it's great to have a coach who has set us up to consistently be in contention.
I'm thrilled that for 3 consecutive years we've either been in the playoff or a major player in the discussion into DECEMBER. We'll be in it again this year. You need a hell of a lot of stuff to fall your way to win a natty...it's great to have a coach who has set us up to consistently be in contention.
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