re: 2020 Recruiting Thread (SVP and Broderick Jones stay committed to the G)

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HTDawg

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Jesus Christ, you're not happy unless you're miserable, are you?

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Schools can release from LOIs, yes. It’s a contract that 100% favors the program and bonds the student to the school, not the other way around

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You sure about that? I found a couple of things that seem to make it sound like it's not quite as easy as just "poof, you don't have a spot".

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Provision 7 – Declaring Your NLI Null and Void

This is a list of reasons your NLI could be not accepted by the University you have signed with. It is important to remember, 95% of the time this will not be an issue, but just encase it is important you understand how to avoid these issues.

You do not gain admissions into the university – If you do not get accepted by the university, you will not be receiving your scholarship. Remember, by meeting the NCAA eligibility requirements, you are not guaranteed admission into the school you choose.
You are a NCAA non-qualifier – You will be signing your NLI before you get your final eligibility status with the NCAA. If at the end of the year you are declared a non-qualifier, you will not be receiving your athletic scholarship.
One-Year Absence – If you sign an NLI and do not attend any school for one year you would then be allowed to attend another university if you file for a release with that schools conference office. Your athletic department at the school you will be attending can help you with that process.
Joining the Military or Church Mission – If you join the military or going on a church mission for 12 months or more after signing an NLI, you will be allowed to sign with another school without penalty.
Discontinued Sport – If the school cuts the program for the sport you signed for after you have signed, you will be allowed to sign with another school without penalty.
Recruiting Rules Violations – If it is determined there were recruiting rules violations after you have signed an NLI you will have the choice to continue with your NLI or get a release once you have been reinstated. This process will be handled by the athletic department of your university.

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Though it has never been explicitly stated as the reason Lancona didn’t end up at WSU, the Cougars did need to free up a scholarship to sign junior-college point guard Danny Lawhorn, which they eventually did.

At the time, Tanner called his departure a “mutual” decision between him and WSU. Tanner’s father was unequivocal in his contention of that notion.

“There was no choice in that matter,” Sean said. “It was happening with or without us.”

Not entirely, though. No school has the power to simply rescind a signed NLI, unless the student-athlete fails to meet NCAA or university eligibility requirements. It is binding, remember. Still, considerable pressure mounts upon a student-athlete who might not feel as if the school is as excited about the deal as he is.

“Once they sign it, it’s their scholarship,” Bone said. “But what I did do was revisit our program, the individual, and take a picture: This is where we see you. If you want to still be here, buy into it, great. But if you don’t, I just want you to understand the picture and where we see you in our program.”

Lancona didn’t see himself in WSU’s program after that April conversation – and Bone apparently flew down there in the first place because he didn’t see him there, either – so Lancona was granted his full release.

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It's the interwebz, so who the hell knows how accurate any of it is, or how much wiggle room there is on admission granted, etc.

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HTDawg

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Guess you’re upset we won yesterday so you have to find something to complain about.

Unreal man

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I agree and I trust what you have to say on it. Don't take it the wrong way. If he wants to commit to us, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I just think he may be in an overrated category right this moment, but I'm open to being completely wrong.

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I have the same concerns as you. There's plenty to discuss about Brock, and you're right, it's mostly gonna be knee jerk reactions at this point.

Regardless of all that, it won't matter who we bring in if they're not coached up.

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No kid is going to stay committed to a school that tells him they no longer want him for various reasons

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The NLI reserves the spot. You can claim that a kid won't want it if he doesnt feel welcomed. But that is the kids choice.

The only think stopping a kid with a NLI is admissions. Not the football program.

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Someone in the other thread brought up Ale Kaho who had signed with UW and then never showed up on campus and they let him out of his NLI

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UW still lost the initial counter in that deal. I was wondering if Georgia hasn't turned in the paperwork, if the loi can be voided and they don't lose the spot. That's the only way I could really see Georgia consenting to releae him right now. If they lose the spot either way, I would think they would try to get him back on board (or wait until his ACT score comes in, or whatever the hold up is gets figured out).

There really doesn't seem like there should be any urgency on Georgia's part to do anything. Publicly Evans still seems good with his decision.

Evans' brother tweeted he will not be an EE.

It sounds like that he did not achieve the requisite grades/ACT score needed to enroll early and, therefore, he will not announce anything tonight. Remember, he skipped a playoff game this season to retake the ACT.

There are people at the AA game saying he will enroll in June.

A friend posted this elsewhere-

here's my thinking:

1. Didn't get what he needed to enroll early.

2. Got frustrated

3. Asked out of LOI to either try and EE somewhere else or asked out of LOI because he is a frustrated teenager that felt like he was being "done wrong" somehow.

4. Will talk to or has talked to Kirby, Dell, and Jonas and figures out there's nothing anyone can do.

5. Already made an announcement that he was enrolling early and is now embarrassed because he can't.

6. Doesn't want to make anymore announcements until he is sure everything is 100% good to go.

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I read schools have something like 21 days to submit them and thought they might have held Evans' until he actually publicly announced.

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If this is true, it would be the smart thing to do. Not sure if it is what we did, though.

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I would guess, if both the school and player wanted out, and it hadn't been submitted yet, they could just make it disappear.

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People who are expressing doubts about him are smart. I hope he gets his head on straight, and signs with us. If not, I can live with it. I think most people are just tired of him and want his part of recruitment to go away so we can stop hearing about him.

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Pretty sure Americus said we might take more than the 23rd we thought previously. Maybe 24 or 25? He never said definitely, I don't think, and he never stated how many if we did sign more.

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Sure... there is some belief that the 25 cap may be adjusted/alleviated/removed next season (in the wake of the transfer portal). As of right now, I don't think anyone knows for sure, but could definitely see us trying to take up to 25 counting forward if that number is going up.