re: 2016 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)

Yeah, Catalina will most likely be a starter. Dude got some guns

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Mecole Hardman Jr.
?@iiAm_Mesho
@d_rob4 Let's make history in Athens! ????????

#DawgNation what y'all think?

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Don't think transfers are counted in recruiting classes unless they transfer from JUCO

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Number 1 ranked "dual threat" QB by Scout in '12.

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Ok. So a Dual Threat that rarely ran the ball? Face it. He may have been a Dual Threat in High School, but was a pocket passer in college. In fact, a pocket passer that runs under pressure gets that many yards. He probably rarely if ever ran a designed run play. Lambert ran for 63 yards last season and Mason ran for over 100 yards the season before that. I guess we had two Dual Threat QB's? They came close to what Winston gained on the ground, and since you are arguing he was a DT...

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Yea,becuase he wasn't surrounded by 5 stars at WR,OL and RB and HE
was the reason Alabama won and Watson was the reason Clemson lost.

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You want to talk about how many excellent teams won without a solid QB? Look at our team the last two years for an example. A Dual Threat QB can get you far, but he can't win a NC by himself. Watson is a perfect example of this. He MIGHT be the best QB in the country right now. (And before you say it.....Clemson had a MUCH better team than we did last year even if you take Watson off Clemson)

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So you get to define who's a dual threat and who's not?

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Not at all. But statistics will tell you. A Dual Threat is one that is an integral part of the running game. Marshall was on with Auburn. Vince Young with Texas. They both got over 1,000 yards rushing. Do you really want to compare a QB with 200 yards rushing with those two? A Dual Threat should have running plays designed for the QB to run the ball regularly.

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And the ONLY reason AU played for it in '13 was Nick Marshall

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You are wrong. And every team you mentioned had great players surrounding them.

Of the ones you mentioned I would say Vince Young and Watson elevated their teams to a National Championship and neither of them won. Auburn certainly COULD have made it without Nick Marshall. (Of course, we will never know as both of us are only giving our opinions.

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Yea,everybody would love to have a care taker QB like Alabama surrounded by 5
star talent at OL,WR and RB.You can virtually run ANY offense and win.

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That's true. But if you don't have that talent surrounding them even the best Dual Threat will not win it. It goes both ways. Dual Threats are exciting to watch, I get it. But they USUALLY do not win you the National Championships. In all cases where a Dual Threat QB won, he was surrounded by the same 5* talent you are talking about.

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Vince Young and Watson elevated their teams to a National Championship and neither of them won.

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Alright. Let's just stop here. You don't think Vince Young won a national championship. I respect your opinions in general, but if we're gonna talk about dual threat QBs on the recruiting board, let's not be blatantly wrong with our information.

Your stats are also off on Lambert and Mason's rushing yards.

Another reason guys like Winston, who I will agree is predominantly a pocket passer, may not have great rushing stats, is that sacks hurt a QB's rushing yards in college. You can also see some of the runs he made last year and this year in the NFL and realize he has some running ability. Coker can run as well for Bama.

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In all cases where a dual threat won, they were surrounded by 5* talent

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In all cases where any team won they were surrounded by 5* talent. Who has had the worst team outside of their QB that won a national championship recently? I would say Auburn in 2010, but they were still really good. Let's just get off this point. You're making less and less sense the more we talk about this.

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Not only did Vince Young win, but had the single greatest NC game performance ever.

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Yea, this conversation is over.

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Your stats are also off on Lambert and Mason's rushing yards.

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I looked them up. Let me check again.

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I think the difference comes in because some sites do not count sacks and some do.


Gatorhata....I thought about just dropping this, but got to thinking that this thread is pretty much dead anyway. We have a watch out for Robertson and that's it. So I went on. However, if everybody wants it dropped, I have no problem with it.

I'm not here to cause problems or irritate people, but I do have some opinions and (obviously) have no problem expressing them. I DO try to back them up with statistics, though.

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I screwed up and wasn't thinking. I admit it.

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Upvote for the admission.