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re: 2015 UGA recruiting thread (commits, offers, etc)
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:10 pm to crispyUGA
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:10 pm to crispyUGA
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if we miss on Jackson, McGraw sticks with BAMA, Roquan goes to Michigan, Wilson goes UF to play WR, and we lose Baker then the wheels will have come off in a major fricking way.
How so? The core of this class is intact and it's a very good core. We need OL, and that's more concerning than what you've mentioned. Roquan Smith is an important piece and that would be disappointing. Everything else you said is incorrect IMO.
Jackson is most likely LSU, always has been. McGraw has been gone for months. Not getting those two doesn't suddenly make the class a bust because the coaches have already accounted for not getting them. Neither Wilson nor Baker is critical, we get many recruits of that quality every year and neither is a huge depth need.
Definitely not "wheels coming off in a major fricking way", unless you were hoping to brag about class rankings on the recruiting board.
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:24 pm to wdhalgren
Baker is a depth need.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:33 pm to Sanford&MunSon
Davis, Fenteng, Parrish, Wilkerson, Bowman, Kennar Johnson should be healthy and Tristan Askew is a pretty good walk-on. All of those guys can play corner. Plus Briscoe, Deontai Williams incoming and Godwin and Slayton could play cornerback also. I think we'll be in better shape next year than the last two years.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:46 pm to wdhalgren
We're not deep or as talented as we should be at ILB and missing on Smith will be a HUGE hit to that position. He's just as vital a member of this recruiting class as anyone save maybe Thompson.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:47 pm to wdhalgren
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Davis, Fenteng, Parrish, Wilkerson, Bowman, Kennar Johnson should be healthy and Tristan Askew is a pretty good walk-on. All of those guys can play corner. Plus Briscoe, Deontai Williams incoming and Godwin and Slayton could play cornerback also. I think we'll be in better shape next year than the last two years.
Yes to Fenteng, Parrish, Davis, the freshmen, and maybe Bowman. Wilkerson is a reserve safety now. If Johnson and Askew couldn't get on the field this year, they never will.
Saying we're in better shape at corner than we were in '14 is like saying John Belushi was in better shape than Chris Farley. I mean, we are, but it's a low bar.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:53 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Saying we're in better shape at corner than we were in '14 is like saying John Belushi was in better shape than Chris Farley. I mean, we are, but it's a low bar.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:18 pm to Crowknowsbest
Holy shite, one of the Ole Miss posters said this with a straight face
They sure as hell didn't feel that way a few years ago.
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Right? I tend to think we are the most lax when it comes to being out "cheated". It's a business. Have to give credit when you get beat because you didn't go the extra mile. Work hard. Merica
They sure as hell didn't feel that way a few years ago.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:29 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:After all that bullshite in the Jefferson recruiting thread, Imma kinda pumped for the basketball game tonight...Hope we drill 'em...
Holy shite, one of the Ole Miss posters said this with a straight face
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:31 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
That thread is a complete shite show. Ole Miss last beat UGA before Van Jefferson could walk. They will next beat UGA long after Jefferson is out of the NFL.
The only place where Ole Miss is better than UGA is taking wealthy white kids from suburban Atlanta who have learning disabilities. They are the '27 Yankees of that.
The only place where Ole Miss is better than UGA is taking wealthy white kids from suburban Atlanta who have learning disabilities. They are the '27 Yankees of that.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:32 pm to wdhalgren
Davis probably won't crack the starting lineup next year, Askew is a walkon, Johnson isn't that good, and Slayton and Godwin are going to get a look at receiver first. We are thin when it comes to true boundary corners.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:33 pm to Crowknowsbest
I'd feel more comfortable using Kennar Johnson, Wilkerson or Askew for cornerback depth in 2015 than I would Baker. Johnson has been hurt and may have had some other issues, but he has the athletic ability to play. Askew is a decent cover corner, looked pretty good in the spring game and did play some this year. Wilkerson is a backup safety now, but he has also trained at cornerback and has played that position more than safety during his career.
People forget how thin we've been in the secondary for the last two seasons. Players who played in 2014 that won't be back are Swann, Rico Johnson, JJ Green, Langley, Dawson and Corey Moore. Of those, only Swann and Moore had meaningful experience prior to the season.
Based on what we have now, we get three back from injury (including two JUCO's with experience), plus pick up another eight recruits. And we return five guys who got meaningful playing time in 2014.
Depth wise, we're looking a lot better in 2015 than 2014. 2013 was even worse than 2014, we couldn't even field a scholarship secondary during training camp and the first part of the season. Your analogy is not accurate IMO.
People forget how thin we've been in the secondary for the last two seasons. Players who played in 2014 that won't be back are Swann, Rico Johnson, JJ Green, Langley, Dawson and Corey Moore. Of those, only Swann and Moore had meaningful experience prior to the season.
Based on what we have now, we get three back from injury (including two JUCO's with experience), plus pick up another eight recruits. And we return five guys who got meaningful playing time in 2014.
Depth wise, we're looking a lot better in 2015 than 2014. 2013 was even worse than 2014, we couldn't even field a scholarship secondary during training camp and the first part of the season. Your analogy is not accurate IMO.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:37 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
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The only place where Ole Miss is better than UGA is taking wealthy white kids from suburban Atlanta who have learning disabilities. They are the '27 Yankees of that.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:44 pm to tylerdurden24
Recruiting as of late has me feeling super flaccid
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:45 pm to wdhalgren
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Depth wise, we're looking a lot better in 2015 than 2014. 2013 was even worse than 2014, we couldn't even field a scholarship secondary during training camp and the first part of the season. Your analogy is not accurate IMO.
I'm not as worried about depth as I am having SEC level starters in the secondary and depth of those types of players. The only non-freshmen in the secondary that I'm confident have that ability are Sanders, Parrish, Mauger, and Fenteng. I would consider Davis a solid depth guy, but he's not someone that should be a starter at UGA talent-wise. Terry could be that guy if it clicks for him.
Wilkerson isn't fast enough imo. Pruitt can't make him faster. I haven't seen anything from Johnson or Askew that leads me to believe they can contribute.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:46 pm to Sanford&MunSon
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Davis probably won't crack the starting lineup next year, Askew is a walkon, Johnson isn't that good, and Slayton and Godwin are going to get a look at receiver first. We are thin when it comes to true boundary corners.
You've changed the argument, as people like to do on the internet when their statements are shown to be factually incorrect. I said that Baker isn't a huge depth need in this class, you disagreed and said he was a "depth need". I showed our depth, so you changed tack and now you're saying the guys we have aren't talented, which is a different debate and assumes that Baker is more talented. But, we do have depth, better than the two prior years by a good margin, and talent is is unknown for incoming recruits also.
But, I'll play along with your new argument that Baker is a talent need (not a "depth need". Davis was a redshirt freshman, playing his first real action in four years. He'll improve. Askew is a pretty good cover corner, I've seen him play at the college level. Johnson has been hurt, but his videos were just as good as the guy you assume we need for talent). Slayton and Godwin might play either way or both. If we need extra depth, that's what they are and they also have good video. And we have several others who played this year and did okay. So, I stand by my original statement and amend it to say that Baker is not a huge need for depth or talent. He may be a want, but not a huge need.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:48 pm to wdhalgren
Baker is a potential starter need, frankly. As is Briscoe. And McGraw and Jackson if we sign them.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:49 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Recruiting as of late has me feeling super flaccid
Don't worry. Bubba is going to win another green jacket and the Falcons are going to draft Gurley early in the 2nd round. That will be the metaphorical adrenaline shot into the dick needed to make it through the offseason.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:51 pm to tylerdurden24
Well, the Jags did get a HC as an OL coach today so that's nice
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:52 pm to tylerdurden24
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Don't worry. Bubba is going to win another green jacket and the Falcons are going to draft Gurley early in the 2nd round. That will be the metaphorical adrenaline shot into the dick needed to make it through the offseason.
I hitched my bandwagon dick to the Hawks and I don't even like basketball.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:53 pm to Crowknowsbest
Saying a freshman is potentially needed to be a starter in 2015 is meaningless. We have half a dozen guys with more experience and potentially just as much talent. Could he start, maybe although doubtful. But nothing you've said disproves my assertion that Baker is not a huge depth need for the 2015 class.
I hope we get him, but if we lose him (and/or Shaq Wilson), that doesn't make this class a train wreck and it's not something we can't quickly recover with the next class.
I hope we get him, but if we lose him (and/or Shaq Wilson), that doesn't make this class a train wreck and it's not something we can't quickly recover with the next class.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 4:59 pm
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