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re: Welp, it's an open qb competition again and Spavital is still the play caller...
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:47 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:47 pm to cardboardboxer
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Did we really expect otherwise midseason?
Did we expect that we'd have a new OC hired from outside in the middle of the season? No.
Is it reasonable to expect that Spaz-it-all would've had his play-calling duties revoked? Yes.
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:47 pm to cardboardboxer
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I mean Spav has shown he can beat teams when we for certain have more talent. There are three teams like that left on the schedule. If he can just luck his way through an Auburn win on top we are left with a best case scenario for the season from this point.
We are regressing every week. I don't see what the point is with continuing to have him call plays. Again, I don't give a shite who it would be that replaces him as interim, just that he is no longer doing it. I don't see how it can get any worse than what occurred last Saturday. We would not have beaten SC or Vandy with the way we played.
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If we promote him now, then demote him later, then we are left with a situation like we have with our RB coach (who should also be replaced after this offseason).
Making him interim OC then keeping him as OL coach after we hire a new OC is not the same as McKinney. McKinney was demoted as the actual OC.
Also the situation with McKinney is him being a shitty coach. We may have the same situation with Christensen, I'm not sure, but I don't think there's some secret psychological thing behind it
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:48 pm to Cooter Davenport
TexAgs has officially crashed.
There better be some serious changes out of this offense. This is near-Fran-level melting.
There better be some serious changes out of this offense. This is near-Fran-level melting.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:54 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Honestly, Hubanek's quick decision making makes me think we should give him a shot.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:54 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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We are regressing every week. I don't see what the point is with continuing to have him call plays. Again, I don't give a shite who it would be that replaces him as interim, just that he is no longer doing it. I don't see how it can get any worse than what occurred last Saturday. We would not have beaten SC or Vandy with the way we played.
Upvoted. Exactly. Sumlin should just can him and call the plays himself. We don't use an OC who stays in the booth, so what's the difference? Sumlin might not have the undivided attention/time he needs to call the best plays? Is Spaz-it-all calling the best plays anyway? No! So what's it matter? Just get that moron out of here. Goodenss gracious. He's running an air-raid offense without any slant passes. That's so stupid it's beyond forgiving.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:54 pm to TeLeFaWx
I agree
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:55 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Honestly, Hubanek's quick decision making makes me think we should give him a shot.
BEEN SAYING THIS FOR WEEKS
Posted on 10/27/15 at 12:56 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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ShaneTheLegLechler
Good answers and discussion, thank you.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 1:08 pm to Cooter Davenport
Only problem with hubenak is you will almost certainly lose both qb's if he's your guy, and then you have zero backup unless you get another juco transfer or a true freshman recruit (and I'm not sure if we are recruiting anybody this class or not).
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 10/27/15 at 1:38 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Honestly, Hubanek's quick decision making makes me think we should give him a shot.
I liked how he looked against Ole Miss. And Kyler is TINY
Posted on 10/27/15 at 2:21 pm to cardboardboxer
Okay, I am about to go off on agressor-level walls of text, but I a fairly decent bullshite sniffer and I cannot AGAIN ignore my instincts. I wouldn't in the business world and I wonder why it does not apply to college athletics.
At some point, it can't be just shitty coaching, scheme, program dynamics, College Station, the unusually soft B/CS water, or some other lame-arse excuse. For 2 weeks in a row it seems like the defenses of both Bama and Ole Miss knew right where to be and exactly how to react to each from our offense. It is inexplicable how a guy with as much success and poise as Kyle Allen goes, what, 2-19 on completions passes in the 2nd half? He goes 20-40 and throws 3 pick-sixes against Alabama?
This is the same shite that happened last year. Everything seemed great. It was all working smoothly for the first 5 games, then...BAM. Every defense, for 3 or 4 games straight, knew exactly how to stop our offense, to the point where it appeared that they knew exactly what was coming.
Coincidence?
Great coaching by opposing teams?
Shitty coaching by A&M?
Lack of variety by Spav?
How many fricking years in a row have we had what appeared to be a good team, only to have miraculous second half (game and season) collapses? I am just having a hard time believing any team can have these same problems year after year.
Look at last year. Everything was great at first. Kenny Hill hit nearly every throw with pin-point accuracy. Then, the Arkansas game is where the same yearly shite started happening. Kenny Hill looked damn near unstoppable, then--Jekyll and Hyde-- looked like shite until benched.
Just like last year, the Arkansas game is where the shitty offense reared its ugly head, but was it the offense or did the pig D know exactly what was coming.
Miss State DBs seemed to be in the right place at the right time. Kenny Hill just, for some reason, starts looking REALLY bad. 3 INTs. Sound familiar? (Alabama this year)
We followed it up with a SHITTY offensive performance against Ole Miss. Again, it seemed like the defense knew our offense better than we did. By the time the coaches realized that Ole Miss knew exactly what we were going to do on every single fricking play, it was too late.
Alabama Game last year. What else can I say? The first half was A&M Punt, Bama TD, Punt, TD, back and forth, again appearing as if Bama knew all our play calls.
Missouri, 3rd Quarter... so closely reminded me of 2011 that I nearly puked. We went into the half leading 13-6. Then, in 2011 fashion, Missouri rattles off a 28-point third quarter, again, seeming like Missouri had our playbook and knew exactly what plays we were going to call.
Can it really be a matter of shitty, predictable play calling, or is something else at work here? Each year, this team appears (from all perspectives) to be a serious contender, only to end up having epic, miraculous, inexplicable collapses.
When you see this level of repeated collapse in other areas of life, you have to start taking a look at outside forces. Maybe I am jaded by my own experience and occupation, but at what point does this start to appear externally manufactured or manipulated?
I saw this same kind of inexplicable Jekyll and Hide routine multiple times in the late 80s and early 90s. Every single cocksucking time we were about to break through, we are hit with epic collapses, miraculous performances by opposing teams, and, when all of that failed, 1994 probation.
There was no explanation for the entire Fran disaster. See 77-0. There is no way that team should have collapsed like it did. Again, it was like Bob Stoops and the gang knew every play we called.
2011? Do I need to say more?
Hell. What the frick. I am already wasting time and melting anyway.
Okie State -- 21-0 Okie State third quarter. Again, they could do no wrong and appeared to know exactly what we were doing after we took a 20-3 lead into halftime.
Arkansas -- we took a 35-17 lead into halftime, only to get outscored 25-3. Again, it seemed like Arky knew exactly what we were going to do on offense and played it perfectly.
Missouri -- we held a 28-17 lead at halftime. Second half, Missouri outscored A&M 14-3, or 21-3 including overtime.
Sips -- 16-7 lead at half. 17-0 sip third quarter. Like they could do no wrong. The defense was in the right place at all the right times and knew exactly what was coming....including.....no....it can't be.....a PICK SIX.
If this kind of stuff was happing to a business, would the directors and shareholders just chalk it up to "coincidence" and move along? Would they simply throw out the "oh well, we did the best we could and came up short...get em next time" routine? Y'all know better than that. They would at least conduct a thorough internal investigation, would they not? Do some form of due diligence? Make sure nothing improper has occurred (both internally and externally)? They would at least demand some answers, would they not?
How is an athletic department any different? It is a money-making, competitive business every bit (or more so) as cut-throat as any corporate competition. Why behave any differently as an AD? Would it be unwise and wasteful A&M's AD to do the same? Maybe hire a few PIs to at least snoop around? Get a few lawyers to do some interviews internally and (if possible) externally? Look into the backgrounds of anyone who has the ability to improperly affect the outcome of any contest? Should they at least consider the possibility of impropriety, and be watchful?
Okay. Taking this off now.
At some point, it can't be just shitty coaching, scheme, program dynamics, College Station, the unusually soft B/CS water, or some other lame-arse excuse. For 2 weeks in a row it seems like the defenses of both Bama and Ole Miss knew right where to be and exactly how to react to each from our offense. It is inexplicable how a guy with as much success and poise as Kyle Allen goes, what, 2-19 on completions passes in the 2nd half? He goes 20-40 and throws 3 pick-sixes against Alabama?
This is the same shite that happened last year. Everything seemed great. It was all working smoothly for the first 5 games, then...BAM. Every defense, for 3 or 4 games straight, knew exactly how to stop our offense, to the point where it appeared that they knew exactly what was coming.
Coincidence?
Great coaching by opposing teams?
Shitty coaching by A&M?
Lack of variety by Spav?
How many fricking years in a row have we had what appeared to be a good team, only to have miraculous second half (game and season) collapses? I am just having a hard time believing any team can have these same problems year after year.
Look at last year. Everything was great at first. Kenny Hill hit nearly every throw with pin-point accuracy. Then, the Arkansas game is where the same yearly shite started happening. Kenny Hill looked damn near unstoppable, then--Jekyll and Hyde-- looked like shite until benched.
Just like last year, the Arkansas game is where the shitty offense reared its ugly head, but was it the offense or did the pig D know exactly what was coming.
Miss State DBs seemed to be in the right place at the right time. Kenny Hill just, for some reason, starts looking REALLY bad. 3 INTs. Sound familiar? (Alabama this year)
We followed it up with a SHITTY offensive performance against Ole Miss. Again, it seemed like the defense knew our offense better than we did. By the time the coaches realized that Ole Miss knew exactly what we were going to do on every single fricking play, it was too late.
Alabama Game last year. What else can I say? The first half was A&M Punt, Bama TD, Punt, TD, back and forth, again appearing as if Bama knew all our play calls.
Missouri, 3rd Quarter... so closely reminded me of 2011 that I nearly puked. We went into the half leading 13-6. Then, in 2011 fashion, Missouri rattles off a 28-point third quarter, again, seeming like Missouri had our playbook and knew exactly what plays we were going to call.
Can it really be a matter of shitty, predictable play calling, or is something else at work here? Each year, this team appears (from all perspectives) to be a serious contender, only to end up having epic, miraculous, inexplicable collapses.
When you see this level of repeated collapse in other areas of life, you have to start taking a look at outside forces. Maybe I am jaded by my own experience and occupation, but at what point does this start to appear externally manufactured or manipulated?
I saw this same kind of inexplicable Jekyll and Hide routine multiple times in the late 80s and early 90s. Every single cocksucking time we were about to break through, we are hit with epic collapses, miraculous performances by opposing teams, and, when all of that failed, 1994 probation.
There was no explanation for the entire Fran disaster. See 77-0. There is no way that team should have collapsed like it did. Again, it was like Bob Stoops and the gang knew every play we called.
2011? Do I need to say more?
Hell. What the frick. I am already wasting time and melting anyway.
Okie State -- 21-0 Okie State third quarter. Again, they could do no wrong and appeared to know exactly what we were doing after we took a 20-3 lead into halftime.
Arkansas -- we took a 35-17 lead into halftime, only to get outscored 25-3. Again, it seemed like Arky knew exactly what we were going to do on offense and played it perfectly.
Missouri -- we held a 28-17 lead at halftime. Second half, Missouri outscored A&M 14-3, or 21-3 including overtime.
Sips -- 16-7 lead at half. 17-0 sip third quarter. Like they could do no wrong. The defense was in the right place at all the right times and knew exactly what was coming....including.....no....it can't be.....a PICK SIX.
If this kind of stuff was happing to a business, would the directors and shareholders just chalk it up to "coincidence" and move along? Would they simply throw out the "oh well, we did the best we could and came up short...get em next time" routine? Y'all know better than that. They would at least conduct a thorough internal investigation, would they not? Do some form of due diligence? Make sure nothing improper has occurred (both internally and externally)? They would at least demand some answers, would they not?
How is an athletic department any different? It is a money-making, competitive business every bit (or more so) as cut-throat as any corporate competition. Why behave any differently as an AD? Would it be unwise and wasteful A&M's AD to do the same? Maybe hire a few PIs to at least snoop around? Get a few lawyers to do some interviews internally and (if possible) externally? Look into the backgrounds of anyone who has the ability to improperly affect the outcome of any contest? Should they at least consider the possibility of impropriety, and be watchful?
Okay. Taking this off now.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 2:35 pm to KaiserSoze99
Haha great post.
All kidding aside, the Groundhog Day routine of the past two years is due to Spaz-it-all's predictable play-calling. After a certain amount of time with one QB, opposing teams' DCs are able to zero-in through film study on what call Spaz is going to make on a given down, distance and field position.
All kidding aside, the Groundhog Day routine of the past two years is due to Spaz-it-all's predictable play-calling. After a certain amount of time with one QB, opposing teams' DCs are able to zero-in through film study on what call Spaz is going to make on a given down, distance and field position.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 2:42 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Spaz-it-all
Just throwing this out there, you sound like a 1980's ski movie villain.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 2:45 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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Edit: other news of note is that sumlin stated there will be changes made offensively. Obviously he didn't go into specifics on said changes.
He briefly touched on blocking schemes. Sounds like we'll do more straight forward blocking with less pulling guards.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:09 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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Spavital is still the play caller...
We will not beat anyone but maybe vandy and the FCS school.
It's just a fact. I've accepted it.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:20 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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other news of note is that sumlin stated there will be changes made offensively. Obviously he didn't go into specifics on said changes.
There won't be. 20 bucks says we run the same wide receiver screens, zone read out of shotgun on short yardage plays that we always do. Spav hasn't figured it out in his year and half leading this offense and another humiliating loss at the hands of ole miss won't fix that. We may put some points up, but it's only because it's South Carolina and we can out talent them. Not out coach, out scheme, or out perform them.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:33 pm to TexasAg13
Kyler also seems like he could turn it over 6 times if he played a whole game. Then again I thought the same thing about Manziel
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:37 pm to Texas Gentleman
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There won't be. 20 bucks says we run the same wide receiver screens, zone read out of shotgun on short yardage plays that we always do. Spav hasn't figured it out in his year and half leading this offense and another humiliating loss at the hands of ole miss won't fix tha
I agree with this. Spav said in the press conference that it was his fault for not giving his QB easier passes when he's rattled. That tells me that he's going back to the same tired, predictable scheme (inside hand off, screen, inside hand off, punt) that sunk us last year and in this game. 1-20 is not "rattled", it's full on yips. That's assuming that Kyle's not actually hurt, which I think he is and he's just not telling the coaches because he knows it means he's on the bench. Whatever the problem with Kyle is, the answer is not calling the same simple plays over and over again until two defenders trip over themselves and we luck into a score.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 4:25 pm to NanosTacoRun
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He briefly touched on blocking schemes. Sounds like we'll do more straight forward blocking with less pulling guards.
This will help more than anything. In so sick of seeing our slow motion roll outs and Tra the slow bus Carson getting caught from behind.
Feels like christiansens fault.
Posted on 10/27/15 at 4:26 pm to cokebottleag
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We will not beat anyone but maybe vandy and the FCS school.
Nah
Will finish 9-3 in the regular season and defeat Penn St in the Music City Bowl to get just our second 10 win season since RC was coaching the team to an improbable comeback victory in the '98 Big 12 Championship game.
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