re: Sumlin Will be our Coach Next Year

Still a lot of season left. So plenty of time for Sumlin to either frick up or win back some favor.

i've been down on rumlin too, but if he pulls off 9 wins then i'd be happy to have him back.

that's 9 wins w/o a bowl game btw. it actually seems realistic. lose to bama and auburn, beat everyone else. i wouldn't put money on it, but it could happen.

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Losing so much talent last year, no realistic Aggie should have had any expectations for this year.

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He is setting the program up for real chances the next few years.

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We’ve been hearing this for years. 2016 was supposed to be the year when we played a bunch of young kids in 15. Now it’s 2018 or 19. Too many damn excuses have been made for this coach. Most coaches not named nick saban or urban Meyer will have an off year (Dabo swinney went 6-7 in 2010, his third year with Clemson) but sumlin has been in “rebuilding mode” with this program far too long. It’s time for him to put up or shut up.

Is him succeeding the best thing for this program? Absolutely. Hard to have a top tier program without stability. But you don’t keep hoping he will turn the corner just to give him another chance when he fails.

Unfortunately if he does goes 8-4 there is a very realistic chance he’s still here. 9-3 should be the minimum this year but it probably won’t be. I agree that there aren’t many big names available right now but in today’s landscape it’s pretty damn hard to pull away a top tier coach anyways, a lot more schools are willing to pony up.

We absolutely don’t want to pull a LSU, our AD needs to be looking at potential replacements now. You don’t want to fire the guy and get caught with your dic* in your hand and no plan of action to move forward. That’s what LSU did and look at what it got them.

In the end, I just don’t think sumlin is the guy. He’s proven he can’t manage a roster effectively, makes the same gametime mistakes mistakes (ineffective clock management), and doesn’t instill a killer mentality in his teams. If he stays another 4-5 years he will most likely continue to flounder between 7-9 wins, with maybe a double digit season mixed in because all the stars aligned and the SEC has another down year like this one. Doubt he will ever have us in the SEC championship game.

He is always to blame when we do poorly. But when he's playing in 2018 or 2019 during 2017, I'd rather us not make an emotional decision and frick our program up for another decade. Look at what LSU is dealing with right now. I don't want to be that. I don't want another Fran. I don't want another Sherman. You will not convince me Sumlin isn't better than either of our previous two coaches.

If he goes 8-4 with an LSU win, give him 1-2 more. With the state of our team right now, that is a huge accomplishment. Let the work he's putting in right now pay off. If he still can't win the West, even with Sabans dominance, he should go.

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You will not convince me Sumlin isn't better than either of our previous two coaches.

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Seasons with 1 home loss of fewer:

Franchione - 1
Sherman - 1
Sumlin - 0

Winning records in conference:

Franchione - 2
Sherman - 1
Sumlin - 1

Home losses

Franchione - 9
Sherman - 11
Sumlin - 11

Massive blown leads (21+ second half, 14+ 4th quarter)

Franchione - 0
Sherman - 1
Sumlin - 2

Starting and Backup QBs transferring 1 week apart:

Franchione - No
Sherman - No
Sumlin - 2015

Answer this question: Has Kevin Sumlin's job performance thus far merited an EXTENSION beyond the 2019 season? If the answer is no, you fire him this year.

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Said in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017...at what point is Sumlin to blame for not having talent in the wings?

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Exactly. Hate the argument that "well he coached up a talentless team". He's been here for 6 years so that's his fault. Roster is much worse than when he showed up.

If he loses to LSU he gone.

Still have to not lose winnable SECW games

When was the last time there was 3 or 4 other teams as bad as OM, Ark, LSU and State are this year in the west? If they lose to anyone other than Bama and aren't at least competitive against Fl and Auburn he needs to be gone.

The only real difference this year is that we are very healthy at the midway point (Wilson being the only player I believe we miss, Starkel/Mond is a wash) and we have the expectation of improving because we're playing so many freshman who are managing to stay healthy.

I can see a scenario where we are the 4th best team in the SEC by season's end. If that happens, no way he gets fired. The "wait till next year" wagon will be in full circle.

On paper next year looks promising. We return essentially the entire offense apart from Ford and maybe Kirk, including every significant OL contributed. Every LB and CB on the roster returns except for Willis and Wilson will likely get a medical redshirt. If Keke stays and Durham keeps it up, we'll have 8 defensive starters back along with 10 or 11 on offense. Roughly 17 of the 22 2-deep could be back.

The problem is that I've seen this movie and think Sumlin will waste it. I see a great opportunity for a new coach to get off to a running start, not another promising year ruined by a staff hanging around too long.

A slot/KR won't go in the top 10 IMO. He's a fringe top-20 pick.