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Stubborn Efforts to Establish the Run
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:03 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:03 am
Every loss can be attributed to the stubborn effort to run the ball without giving the opponent a reason to respect Mond's feet.
Remember when the fricking sips tried to make Radio Young a pocket passer? They tried to make him go through reads, just like Mond.
What happened when they let him lose?
Now, I'm not saying Mond should go off script every play, but he needs to be free to do it enough that the opposing D must dedicate a spy.
Georgia did exactly what I expected them to do. They stacked the box, ignored Mond, and waited for the stubborn run game.
4th and inched? Handoff gets stuffed. No trickery. No using Mond's feet. I saw that happening before the damn snap!!!
Establish EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST!!!!! frick THE RUN! until defenses MUST respect EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST!!!
I really can't believe we are paying this much money for a complete lack of strategy.
So, bring on LSU and watch us squander another winnable game with shite game-time analysis and strategy. I am SO glad we dumped 50 gallons of gasoline on that huge stack of money and tossed a few lit $45 cigars on it.
Establish that run game!!!
Remember when the fricking sips tried to make Radio Young a pocket passer? They tried to make him go through reads, just like Mond.
What happened when they let him lose?
Now, I'm not saying Mond should go off script every play, but he needs to be free to do it enough that the opposing D must dedicate a spy.
Georgia did exactly what I expected them to do. They stacked the box, ignored Mond, and waited for the stubborn run game.
4th and inched? Handoff gets stuffed. No trickery. No using Mond's feet. I saw that happening before the damn snap!!!
Establish EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST!!!!! frick THE RUN! until defenses MUST respect EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST!!!
I really can't believe we are paying this much money for a complete lack of strategy.
So, bring on LSU and watch us squander another winnable game with shite game-time analysis and strategy. I am SO glad we dumped 50 gallons of gasoline on that huge stack of money and tossed a few lit $45 cigars on it.
Establish that run game!!!
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 9:04 am
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 11:35 am to KaiserSoze99
There were multiple predictions of a 7 and 5 season. It looks likely and the losses will have been predicted. Let's hope there are a stable of O Line prospects. It's obvious that is essential to a successful run in this conference.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 1:11 pm to KaiserSoze99
I disagree. We need the run game. And we need to be keep at it. Without the run game we won’t be able to hang with LSU.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:18 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
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We need the run game. And we need to be keep at it. Without the run game we won’t be able to hang with LSU.
We don't have a run game. PERIOD. We can want a run game all we want but we do not have one. Not sure why we need to force a running game.. that we don't have... to create 2nd and 9 or 3rd and 8. A bunch of 2nd and long and 3rd and longs are disasters in waiting for this offense.
A&M can hang with LSU and maybe run the ball if we move the ball through the air. We can throw 4-6 yards, we can throw 10 yards, we can use up the play clock and snap with a few seconds left, we can play ball control with a passing game.
We just don't have a running game. Why waste 8-10 series learning this lesson once again? I just don't see the point in trying to keep doing something we just flat suck at.
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Remember when the fricking sips tried to make Radio Young a pocket passer? They tried to make him go through reads, just like Mond.
Sumlin tried that same kind of shite with JFF in year 2.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:46 pm to Tridentds
Well LSU run defense is somewhere between UGA and South Carolina. In one game we ran for -1 yd and in the other we ran for 300+ yards.
So I think there is room to gain some yards there. And by doing so, it keeps them honest so they don’t just tee off and blitz Mond on every play.
So I think there is room to gain some yards there. And by doing so, it keeps them honest so they don’t just tee off and blitz Mond on every play.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:01 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
You will get your wish. I fully expect the Ags to come out with the same offensive strategy. My guess is we have 28-30 rushes for 90 to 100 vs LSU. We’ll go pass heavy once we are down by 3 scores.
I feel this game to play out like Bama, Auburn, and UGA. Only difference is vs LSU we might hit 100 -110 yards rushing but it won’t be close to enough. IMO I think we should use our late 3Q and 4Q offense vs the better teams right out the gate this Saturday.
LSU secondary sucks. We ought to attack it from the first snap.
I feel this game to play out like Bama, Auburn, and UGA. Only difference is vs LSU we might hit 100 -110 yards rushing but it won’t be close to enough. IMO I think we should use our late 3Q and 4Q offense vs the better teams right out the gate this Saturday.
LSU secondary sucks. We ought to attack it from the first snap.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:11 pm to Tridentds
I hear you. IF the O-Line can hold blocks, then I’m sure we will be more aggressive in the play action passing game. That’s the key to the play calling.
Overall, I like what Elko has been doing with this defense. If they can hold LSU below their season averages, get a turnover, and the offense moves the ball enough to limits their possessions, then there is a chance to be in it late without having to air it out all game.
Overall, I like what Elko has been doing with this defense. If they can hold LSU below their season averages, get a turnover, and the offense moves the ball enough to limits their possessions, then there is a chance to be in it late without having to air it out all game.
Posted on 11/25/19 at 5:32 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
I’m with you on our defense. I really like what Elko has done. Bama was a rough game and very early vs Auburn but for the most part we have had more than enough defense this year. I really like the trajectory of our D.
Just a couple of offensive lineman away from a great season this year. For a young team in the SECw I like where we are headed.
Just a couple of offensive lineman away from a great season this year. For a young team in the SECw I like where we are headed.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:53 pm to KaiserSoze99
You HAVE to be able to establish the running game. Even LSU's offense didn't truly take off until they involved CEH
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:16 pm to ColoradoAg
There are a number of people besides you that think we have to establish the run in order to hang in this game.
Out of curiosity what does establish the run mean to you? Is there a certain total number of yards we need to hit? Or maybe YPC?
Out of curiosity what does establish the run mean to you? Is there a certain total number of yards we need to hit? Or maybe YPC?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:02 pm to Tridentds
You have to be able to run the ball effectively, and bleed time off the clock. I still think we need to pass as well, but shortening the clock is the ONLY chance this team has against LSU.
Pass game should be a very controlled one, with high percentage passes to move the chains when necessary. Have to see the LSU offense off the field
Pass game should be a very controlled one, with high percentage passes to move the chains when necessary. Have to see the LSU offense off the field
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:11 pm to ColoradoAg
I've never understood the importance of "ball control, bleed the clock" as an identity, per se.
It's important in certain situations to minimize the opponent's opportunity to score. Ex: 4 min left, spend it marching the field, leave them with no time.
HISTORICALLY, when both teams played the same sort of game TOP would tend to be a metric for who was performing better. Albeit one that typically lags other things like first downs.
But as far as playing fast in general v playing slowly in general, it doesn't seem to me that it matters that much in and of itself. Regardless of how long your possession takes, the other guy gets one, too (excepting specific scenarios of clock management.) So screw it. The metric is points per possession.
The only time playing someone who plays fast is negative is when you can't stop them from scoring.
As a (very)former MLB, I'd rather play someone who plays slow, or plays fast. The guy who mixes it up would make me want to blow my brains out. Getting people into place would suck.
What am I missing?
It's important in certain situations to minimize the opponent's opportunity to score. Ex: 4 min left, spend it marching the field, leave them with no time.
HISTORICALLY, when both teams played the same sort of game TOP would tend to be a metric for who was performing better. Albeit one that typically lags other things like first downs.
But as far as playing fast in general v playing slowly in general, it doesn't seem to me that it matters that much in and of itself. Regardless of how long your possession takes, the other guy gets one, too (excepting specific scenarios of clock management.) So screw it. The metric is points per possession.
The only time playing someone who plays fast is negative is when you can't stop them from scoring.
As a (very)former MLB, I'd rather play someone who plays slow, or plays fast. The guy who mixes it up would make me want to blow my brains out. Getting people into place would suck.
What am I missing?
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:50 pm to socal91
Although we ran for -1 yard against UGA, and despite ALL of the the O line issues and clock mgmt errors, we were still in the game late because we ran the clock, played good defense, and have a good punter.
Success on Passing plays depends on our receivers not getting held.
Incomplete passes stop the clock.
Moving the chains on the ground keeps LSUs potent off the field.
Success on Passing plays depends on our receivers not getting held.
Incomplete passes stop the clock.
Moving the chains on the ground keeps LSUs potent off the field.
Posted on 11/28/19 at 6:09 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
"Moving the chains on the ground keeps LSUs potent off the field."
Not really. Scoring more points per possession than the other guy is all that matters. Statistically we moved the chains better than UGA did. But we didn't score more points per possession.
We had more yards. More first downs. More TOP. Fewer points per possession.
So therefore, we lost.
Moving the chains and not scoring to keep their O off the field is just a method of keeping from being blown out when you are outgunned.
Not really. Scoring more points per possession than the other guy is all that matters. Statistically we moved the chains better than UGA did. But we didn't score more points per possession.
We had more yards. More first downs. More TOP. Fewer points per possession.
So therefore, we lost.
Moving the chains and not scoring to keep their O off the field is just a method of keeping from being blown out when you are outgunned.
This post was edited on 11/28/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 11/28/19 at 7:20 pm to KaiserSoze99
I don't mind being committed to the run. I just wish we wouldn't almost always do it out of shotgun. If Mond was keeping the ball on reads 3-5 times a game it would be one thing but since he hardly ever keeps it seems like it's pretty easy to key in on Spiller. Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like our more successful running plays come from when we run from the pistol or the two back sets.
This post was edited on 11/28/19 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 11/28/19 at 7:31 pm to Dr RC
Mond is not good at the zone read. Whether Haynes King, Zach Calzada or Eli Stowers becomes the quarterback of the future, we know all three will make better reads quicker than Mond.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:50 am to socal91
The line is -17 points. So we already know which offense is more potent. The pressure is on the offense to keep up and on the defense to limit quick/long touchdowns.
I’m sure the offense will take more chances and throw downfield more this game because we are facing a more electric offense than we did vs UGA. Mond has to play better.
But many think UGA has the best run defense in the conference, and A&M could have better success on the ground this game compared to last. LSU will dominate if they know A&M is throwing it every play.
If the A&M defense is playing well and the Ags can drain the clock to limit LSUs chances, they will. I’d be happy with 100 -150 yards rushing, including 50 yards of Mond scrambling.
I’m sure the offense will take more chances and throw downfield more this game because we are facing a more electric offense than we did vs UGA. Mond has to play better.
But many think UGA has the best run defense in the conference, and A&M could have better success on the ground this game compared to last. LSU will dominate if they know A&M is throwing it every play.
If the A&M defense is playing well and the Ags can drain the clock to limit LSUs chances, they will. I’d be happy with 100 -150 yards rushing, including 50 yards of Mond scrambling.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:51 am to Dr RC
Agreed, Mond had some open field opportunities against UGA but he didn’t make the right read, and the RB was smothered.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:08 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
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Agreed, Mond had some open field opportunities against UGA but he didn’t make the right read, and the RB was smothered.
Run the sweep.
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