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re: Ongoing Baylor controversy/discussion thread

Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:11 pm to
Briles message to players

Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:11 pm to
My god
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:14 pm to
Wow this is nuts.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:19 pm to
Briles should not be the only coach fired and how McGraw and Starr still have jobs I have no idea

frick Baylor
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:21 pm to
So a bigger tarp for the Rape Bowl
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19203 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:23 pm to
holy Jesus. This is every bit as bad as the wildest speculation would go.

I'm astounded. How grown men, many with daughters, ran that operation the way they did is beyond my understanding. They are vile individuals.

Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:23 pm to
I guess it's better than the original report that Briles was going to keep his job and they were going to transfer Starr to the law school.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:24 pm to
Baylor is seriously the dirtiest AD in the country. I don't understand how they consistently fool people into thinking they are this upstanding university
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:27 pm to
If there's one thing you should know about Baylor is that they don't care about their students. All they care about is winning in every sport no matter the cost.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:34 pm to
Fightin Texas Aggie, Phil Bennett, is taking over as interim HC.
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7175 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:40 pm to
With significant accusations being directed at "the tone and culture of the football program", it's hard to understand how any of the major figures on the staff can survive this.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Actions by University administrators directly discouraged some complainants from reporting or participating in student conduct processes and in one instance constituted retaliation against a complainant for reporting sexual assault.

There is simply no way you can make this sort of statement and no charges be filed
Posted by Mars United
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:49 pm to
Everybody involved will be very fortunate if they don't get charged with a crime. This will end up being a bigger scandal than Penn State.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:04 pm to
quote:


Everybody involved will be very fortunate if they don't get charged with a crime. This will end up being a bigger scandal than Penn State.




It won't be close to the scale of Penn State but I am curious to see how the NCAA reacts as well
Posted by Mars United
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:10 pm to
NCAA won't do anything about this, they are way too gun shy from all the anger they received from the penn state sanctions.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:30 pm to
This is a little more grey than Penn State. The NCAA had no business sanctioning them as their issues were entirely of the legal nature and offered no competitive advantage. Baylor's issues actually effected the product on the field as the rapists shouldn't have been playing, although it will be tough to show which players were justified in playing pending investigation and which weren't.
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
2022 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:37 pm to
I wonder if sweeping changes to the transfer rules and eligibility rules will come from this.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28825 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:39 pm to
venturing over to Old Rivalries now to watch a blood bath. will come back with quotes.

ETA: that was quick and did not disappoint.

"name the espn 30 for 30 episode"
Unbearable: The Rape Culture of Baylor Athletics

"Beneath the Tarp"

Embearassed: How Football Prevailed Over Morals

Grin and Bear it: Baylor's Message to Rape Victims







quote:

Bill Cosby thinks this is horrible



that place is a cesspool, but the best cesspool.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:51 pm to
Baylor has already self-reported NCAA violations and they've lawyered up in anticipation of an investigation

There are a few lines ihe summary report that are pretty damning too because the wording sounds exactly up the NCAA's alley
quote:

Pepper found that Baylor’s efforts to implement Title IX were slow, ad hoc, and hindered by a lack of institutional support and engagement by senior leadership.

quote:

Institutional failures at every level of Baylor’s administration directly impacted the response to individual cases and the Baylor community as a whole

quote:

The football program failed to identify and maintain controls over known risks, and unreasonably accepted known risks. Leadership in football and the athletics department did not set the tone, establish a policy or practice for reporting and documenting significant misconduct. The lack of reporting expectations resulted in a lack of accountability for player misconduct and employee misconduct.

quote:

Baylor did not adhere to a consistent protocol regarding transfers and importantly, Baylor did not consistently follow previously implemented processes regarding criminal background checks, request for records of any prior college disciplinary actions, and character reference screening forms.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

"Beneath the Tarp"


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