re: Lets Talk Politics

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Repubs not getting their way on certain things they campaigned on does not equal Obama getting everything he has wanted. Saying something so demonstrably false makes me question how much you even follow politics.

Quite a few bills and nominations to various judicial positions have been blocked. It's fine to be mad that Repubs haven't done as much as they claimed they could. However, to say Repubs in congress have done nothing is flat out false and I'm not even sure why anyone that is being honest would attempt to say otherwise

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i follow politics pretty religiously. yes of course every single thing he wanted hasn't come to pass, but the big things republicans promised to change have not changed or occured.

pretty sure this is easily proven. maybe we're coming at this from very different sides. do you consider yourself left leaning?

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Voted for Gary Johnson last time. I'd rather my vote go towards increasing the influence of a much needed 3rd party than the lesser of two dipshits.

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I am in this boat now. Previously I thought it was stupid and throwing my vote away, but then I realized there if we don't move 3rd party then the GOP will keep sending up liberal light candidates. Basically we need to go full on Astros, blow everything up, and start over doing things the right way. I thought 8 years of Obama and a shite economy, but it looks like I was wrong.

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once you get past economic issues

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Those tiny unimportant things.

If Hillary or Bernie win POTUS, I will finally know that I've lost touch with the country I expect America to be.

If either Trump or Cruz win, I see nothing but disappointment in those 4 years.


This is the WORST list of possible winners I can recall in my lifetime.

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I'll say it: Trump's staying power baffles me. Honestly I thought the novelty would wear off as '16 approached, but he keeps getting stronger despite his abrasive approach. Would have thought he'd have pissed off the wrong people by this point, but I guess not.

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What makes Trump so dangerous is Cruz quite frankly. If one of the establishment candidates was number 2 in the polls that person (whoever it was) would have the full force of the RNC behind him. But the Republican establishment HATES Cruz to an extreme degree, to the point where they would actually back Trump if it meant Cruz didn't get the nomination.

I think that is a miscalculation on their part quite honestly. They think that if Trump gets the nomination they can mold him and tone him down, but it is obvious he is beholden to no one. They are playing with fire.

What they need to do is pick an establishment candidate after Iowa and tell the rest that either they support that person or they don't have a future in the party. Once there is only one establishment candidate the primary process (which happens in all 50 states and not just red ones) will weed out Cruz and Trump. But if they screw around after Iowa it will be too late and they will have to back Trump 100%. It will lead to a civil war in the party.

Bernie would be the same danger to the Democrats but there is a 0% chance he gets through the primary. He does well with young people, aka people who don't vote. Hillary does well with all the people we make up the Democratic big tent, aka groups that do vote. Ten years from now a Bernie bumper sticker will be a point of liberal pride, like getting to say you went to Political Woodstock.

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I wouldn't consider the economy a single issue.

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Sure, there are many different things that go into it but again, I'm not going to vote for a person purely based on their economic views. It's not my deciding issue w/a President b/c I don't believe they influence the economy as much as they get credit (or blame) for.

The economy is also the area of policy where the president has the least influence. So the overlap between Randroids and Berners isn't as far fetched as it seems at first glance.

I will in all likelihood be voting for Gary Johnson in the general (because Texas' electoral votes are on lockdown), but I will say this, I would prefer Sanders to Clinton in a walk, and to Trump too if he ends up as the nominee.

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He seems to be the only candidate who actually gives a damn about the American people.

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I wouldn't agree, but even assuming that's the case, just caring about people isn't enough. Parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids love their sons and daughters to bits. But they are still endangering their lives because of their whacko beliefs that stand in total contravention to the available evidence.

Likewise Sanders, who may well love his constituents, but his policies will do them great harm in spite of that.

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Bernie and I may be polar opposites on political ideology, but I would vote for him over Cruz or Trump. He seems to be the only candidate who actually gives a damn about the American people. From a utilitarian viewpoint, Berndog could do a lot of good for a lot of people.

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Unfortunately caring won't generate money out of thin air to fund his policies

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Why not just give it to veterans instead of offering it for something they can't control? This is a bad publicity for Cruz

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What? Am I taking crazy pills?

This is clearly an offensive to go after Trump. Trump is the bad guy if he turns this down. Trump looks like the coward. Teddy is painting him as ducking him right before Iowa.