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re: Let's all take a moment to point and laugh at what is going down on the 40 Acres

Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 2:27 pm to
Seems like it's been coming from more than just Chip though, but maybe I'm wrong. I also don't see any way they let him make the next football hire, and I don't see him being the type to stand down and let the boosters do their thing

After Saturday though maybe they will be good enough to buy Strong another year
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 2:28 pm
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21096 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 3:36 pm to
If he gets fired, will shaggytexas get their name back?!?!
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62202 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 8:59 am to
Whelp

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Kirk Bohls @kbohls Texas has officially confirmed AD Steve Patterson has been fired.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44787 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:02 am to
Wow. Just wow. He was a terrible fit, and I know Longhorn fans and alumni are incredibly happy to get him out of there but he was there for less than two years I believe. Just insane. What an atrocious hire by them.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62202 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:03 am to
Yeah I thought it would be at least after football season ended. Does not bode well for Strong IMO.

I realize some of yall are Cowboys fans but you better be rooting for the Eagles to at least be decent this year
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:40 am to
I just wonder how incompetent you have to be to still get fired even after making a hire as good as Shaka Smart was.

People just seem to hate this guy. I think I mentioned it before, but I wonder what the search committee was thinking when they hired him when he just seems like such a dick.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51790 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:54 am to
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I just wonder how incompetent you have to be to still get fired even after making a hire as good as Shaka Smart was.



Great point.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34680 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 9:59 am to
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BruceFeldmanCFB: Source tells @FoxSports "Not sure it'll go thru, but there will be a big push for Mack (Brown) to become the next AD at #Texas."
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10853 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:05 am to
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BruceFeldmanCFB: Source tells @FoxSports "Not sure it'll go thru, but there will be a big push for Mack (Brown) to become the next AD at #Texas."


Would probably be a good move, but don't tell them that. He was the one holding them back and all.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:09 am to
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I just wonder how incompetent you have to be to still get fired even after making a hire as good as Shaka Smart was.



Well, if the best thing you have going for you is that you made a hire that almost everyone would make, people will start wondering just what it is you're bringing to the table.

I think this means Strong has at least one more year after this one. After the Patterson disaster, UTx is not going to rush into hiring a AD. It's going to be a months long process, at minimum. By the time the new guy gets to Austin, there wouldn't be enough time to make a coaching change, even if the new AD was so inclined.

But yeah, I'm disappointed UTx wised up on Patterson--though not half as disappointed as the legions of football fans in Dubai and Mexico. Small chance the next guy will be quite the entertaining clusterfrick.

Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:14 am to
I can see a lot of the biggest donors pushing for this, but there would be a huge backlash from all but the highest level.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:19 am to
I really hope they don't poach Eric Hyman from us.

That would KILL our program beyond repair...
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44787 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:46 am to
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Would probably be a good move, but don't tell them that. He was the one holding them back and all.


I really disagree with this and think Mack would be a terrible AD. He can't handle criticism at all which every AD gets to an extent, and he has an incredibly tough time making tough decisions (i.e. firing Carl Reese, firing Greg Davis, starting younger players). He could talk his way around with the boosters, but being a good AD is about way more than that. If I were Texas I'd probably try and go after Jurich or Luck like they should have done the first time.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:49 am to
One bright spot for us: while I don't personally think Strong is gone after this year, this has to create some doubt in the minds of recruits considering going to Austin.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:55 am to
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I just wonder how incompetent you have to be to still get fired even after making a hire as good as Shaka Smart was.

He's not a likable guy but their AD job isn't that great right now. Patterson innocuously dropped the bomb that fiscal 2014, despite enormous revenue numbers, the Texas AD lost about $5m. He explained it away that they had $50m in reserve and it was related to the buyout of Mack Brown so no big deal. But, since then...

- they lost about 10k season ticket holders. The official tickets sold vs Rice was 86,458 (their lowest paid attendance in 2014 was 92,017 vs ISU)
- they fired Barnes and hired Shaka including a buyout for both. Not sure the numbers but they also increased their ongoing coaching salaries
- they have now fired Patterson to the tune of $6m

So let's say they average 6k below last year's attendance (which is probably generous as UNT was their opener last year and it outdrew ISU plus this season may get ugly) with price of ticket $500 and an average donation of $500 that's $6m. Add in the $6m for Patterson and let's say $5m for the Shaka/Barnes buyouts. That's about $17m. Plus whatever ongoing increase for Shaka and his staff. Suddenly that $50m reserve is $25m with an ongoing operating loss around $5-10m annually.

Strong's contract is guaranteed. If they have a subpar season like it appears they will, it will still be very difficult to fire him. But season tickets aren't exactly going to fly off the shelves if Strong returns. All the while, fan expectations remain that they can money whip anyone they want. That's what the next AD is walking into.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 10:59 am to
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I really disagree with this and think Mack would be a terrible AD.

I tend to agree but I can tell you he will have strong support from the money and their last AD/coach search shows was a disorganized mess they are with various interests pulling in different directions. If nothing else, Mack could unite them which they desperately need. It may not be a bad short term move
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:14 am to
This tweet has me all kinds of confused
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@BradenGall
Patterson's firing has nothing to do w/ football struggling. All about 20,000 empty seats v. Rice, 8,000 unsold tickets v. Sooners.

Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:23 am to
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This tweet has me all kinds of confused
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@BradenGall
Patterson's firing has nothing to do w/ football struggling. All about 20,000 empty seats v. Rice, 8,000 unsold tickets v. Sooners.






They don't equate poor performance to empty seats is all I can figure. It also tells me the AD job there is about $$$ not athletics.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:31 am to
And that's crazy.

I know Patterson raised ticket prices and parking, and instituted some other unpopular measures, such as no re-entry, but if UTx had won at Notre Dame, all those tickets would have been snatched up. The truth is that after the debacle in South Bend, horn fans were wondering if they could even beat Rice (and they almost didn't), much less OU.
Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
235 posts
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:34 am to
It goes to show you that when there's Texas alum promising millions in donations if a guy is fired that he isn't safe. Charlie isn't safe either

Best possible hire: Oliver luck

Worst possible hire: please be Mack brown lol they would be fricked
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