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Posted on 1/19/15 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

He does look "thrilled" to be there.




The point is he's there.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 8:39 pm to
We still have Brice Doleazal who will only be a Jr next year at RB and it is probably the easiest position to convert someone to play. It's also a selling point for '16 if we have availability and True Freshman can typically make an impact at RB more than any other position. We also run a Single Back offense and often go 5 Wide.

I am far more concerned about our lack of depth at QB than RB. Even if Kyler is there in the Fall we will have only 2 Scholarship QB's. That's scary.
Posted by Southtxag
San Mexico
Member since Dec 2012
369 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 8:50 pm to
Anyone heard anything about Corey Helms? He should be visiting now right?
Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 8:57 pm to
Hence, why I said scholarship RBs. Chance Gray, Brice Dolezal, Blaine Townsend, and Kameron Yellin are all walk-ons. Do you really want Dolezal to be our third-string RB? I sure don't. We can hope for a Fournette or Chubb, but those instant-impact backs aren't exactly falling off of trees, and we don't exactly operate a power running offense to entice them to come here.

My entire point was that the staff dropped the ball on RB recruiting. Anderson decommitted in April; yet, we didn't step up our RB recruiting until recently. Why did we wait until 2-3 weeks before NSD to offer Warren? Why are we only now trying to get Soso on campus for an official? The QB situation is different. No one could've known that Kenny Hill would encounter his issues and not be invited back to the team (according to tmc). Again, this is about recruiting, what the staff had information about and when, and what they did or didn't do when they knew.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
11148 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

We still have Brice Doleazal who will only be a Jr next year at RB


Who had our longest TD run of the year
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63285 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:16 pm to
Home run threat

This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 9:17 pm
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:41 pm to
Maybe you missed it but we just got a new run game coordinator that likely shifted our priority on RB's, that's why we have just put the priority back on it.

FWIW I hope we can land this guy, he looks like a beast of a RB:

LINK
Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:39 pm to
Again, you have completely missed my point. I'll go ahead and reiterate:

quote:

Staff screwed up RB recruiting. Situation can still be rectified, but NSD is only two weeks away. Running out of time.


This "renewed emphasis" on RB recruiting essentially supports my contention that up until this point, the staff has dropped the ball. If you want to disagree and believe that the staff has done a sufficient-to-good job recruiting RBs this cycle, that is your prerogative.
This post was edited on 1/19/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:42 pm to
Sweet news from Perroni:

quote:

The Wake Forest center transfer is still on his official visit to A&M. He leaves on Tuesday.

Things are going very well and I'd call A&M the leader here. I don't think it likely does happen but there could be a chance he does indeed cancel his other visits and enroll at A&M by Friday in order to be in school this semester.
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
1391 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:57 am to
The Holton Hill stuff is huge. I thought it was too late to jump back in since we put all our eggs in the Sheffield basket and pretty much cut off contact for the most part since early December. Most kids take that as an insult, even though as Michael Corleone says: "Its not personal, Mr. Hill, just strictly business". But that's what I liked about Hill in the first place... his maturity level is already years ahead of others. He understands that aspect of recruiting and he was receptive to sit down with Sumlin and Chavis. Even this late in the game. I still don't think right now he signs with us, but gotta admire that kid. To win him back over is adjacent to the Seahawks victory over the Packers. It can still get done. Will be interesting to follow this one...
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:23 am to
quote:

I thought it was too late to jump back in


Obviously, Coach Sumlin used the "Break the Lock" option...
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
56830 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:11 am to


future 1st baseman??
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:21 am to
DH? You know he hits for power.

edit: btw those are my seats right behind him.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 11:22 am
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:28 am to
Mack is a pitcher iirc

I think he just stares in and the batters get scared shitless
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149810 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:55 am to
Bitch made dudes get shook
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 12:12 pm to
I think we are just on different pages on the RB situation. Would it be better to have another stud committed? Sure, I just don't see it as some massive failure and desperate situation. I'd still rather take someone at several other positions over RB at this point.

In the end for 2015 we have 4 quality RB's on scholarship and a decent walk on as 5th String. For 2016 that drops to 2 with a walk on but we should have no trouble getting 2 in the next class if we make it a priority. Part of the issue as well is the guys we are talking about are all good backs but none of them is Adrian Peterson or Fournette. Whomever we took is almost a lock to be a RS.

Now if we are talking CB recruiting I completely agree we were foolish in going all in for Sheffield. We are hurting at the position and it is much harder to convert a player to be a quality CB. Even if we had gone in hard early and gotten both Boyd and Hill to commit and then later got Sheffield we could either make room or easily pushed one of them out by pointing out that PT was questionable.

The thing that puzzles me more though is that we aren't taking another QB. I am very nervous about putting all our eggs in the Kyle/Kyler basket when Kyler could still go MLB or even bolt at the last minute. Then we would have 1 scholarship QB, best case we only have 2 and it is entirely possibly whomever doesn't start next year wants to transfer again. At a bare minimum we need to recruit a couple of quality Walk Ons after signing day.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:00 pm to
If Kyler doesn't sign, I imagine DCS would be on the QB depth chart. As much as we all love McQueen, he would get literally killed.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:34 pm to
We've added FB Marshall OT Sam Awolope to the OV list this weekend. His brother goes to A&M and he mentioned a long time ago when he committed to Rice that he would love an A&M offer and it was the only thing that could keep him from Rice. This apparently wasn't true as he flipped to TCU in December, but it should tell you where things stand with him.

I don't think we'd bring him in if we weren't planning to offer. We'll probably be reviewing his transcripts and measuring him when he comes in (insert CGSC melt here because we actually try to project how big a guy will get). I'm not sure we need another tackle, but he's a late riser who had a great SR year. Provided everything checks out, I expect him to flip to us this weekend.

247 just re-ranked him by the way and here's their blurb on him
quote:

No. 174 – Sam Awolope, OT, Missouri City (Texas) Fort Bend Marshall (TCU commit)
He’s relatively new to the game of football and he has a lot of weight still to add so don’t expect Awolope to be a day one starter but we think he has as much upside as any offensive lineman in the 2015 class.
Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
756 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:39 pm to
At QB: agree that Kyler leaving for MLB or decommit is risky, but that's the way QB recruiting go. All the decent ones committed last summer and most aren't looking to flip. It's a position where if you're good and aren't playing, then you're transferring. Period.......for 2015, if Allen gets seriously injured out multi weeks, then we just burn Murrays redshirt. Sucks, but necessary in a bad situation. If they both get hurt and forced to use 3rd string, then the SEASON IS OVER and nothing no longer matters. DCS, RSJ, Speedy Noil, McQueen and any preferred walk on or whoever the staff thinks is best would be just fine at 3rd string........still, gotta get a QB in the 2016 class(that will likely transfer anyways)

Completely agree on RB. Currently, we're good for 2015 with 4 good ones. 2016 we won't just have 2. We'll get 2 more in the 2016 class that are highly rated and the only difference is they won't have a redshirt year, they'll just have to come in ready to play like RB's all throughout the conference do as true freshmen.

The defense is still the concern. Back 7 and especially CB. Unless it's a Juco stud like Martin, those guys need time to develop. Our secondary is TERRIBLE. It won't matter how good our 3rd and 4th running backs are if we get ran through on defense like the town whore. We can't wait till next year to get better secondary player. We did the SAME DAMN THING in last year's cycle when we struck out on all our safety's and end up with a filler player like Wilson. We're very fortunate that Watts looks like a gem
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:39 pm to
Do you think this is kind of weird considering our needs at other positions? Also, if we really wanted another OT, why didn't we push for Weathersby?
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