Who started the practice of lying to kids about offers?

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I remember back when it cost the schools something to offer a kid. If the kid said yes, they were stuck with that kid for 4 years.

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When was this? As far as I remember until the player cleared the NLI process and signed the paperwork there was no commitment including from the player if they decided to go elsewhere before signing.

Never has there been either that I remember a 4-year scholarship. The expectation was the player would be there for 4 years, but the scholarship always had to be renewed each year.

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Now, schools machine gun 300 offers out there, and just pull any offer they like whenever they like. But it’s the kids who we badmouth when they pull a commitment or decide to transfer.

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The offers going out are publicity and makes the school look like a player for every top recruit. It also gets fans happy thinking their school is trying to recruit the best. In reality I would say that 65-70% of offers are going out to players who have no interest in the school.

It is also the kids who want the drama and decide anytime they do not get their way will transfer. I remember the days a player came in with the attitude that had to work for it to see the field. Now they want everything giving to them and when it is not, they transfer out.

The adults who badmouth a HS kid are the same ones that empower them by following them on social media, paying subs to stalk their every movement, and build them up as the next coming. Adults that create the monster and get upset when that same player decides to go elsewhere.

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I really do think it was St Nick who first utilized the shotgun offer (then just charge your mind on a kid if you want), but it’s being followed now by pretty much every major program.

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Maybe or maybe not as I have no idea and before social media no one knows what went on. But you seem to think it is alright to offer a kid, they verbally commit, and 24 hours before signing day or signing day flip and sign with another program. You seem to think the kids are the innocent ones in this.

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It’s unethical to tell 300 kids they have a scholarship offer at your school, when in reality you’re just looking for interest, fully intending to do a deeper check on kids who show interest, then pull the offer if you change your mind.

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More offers will always and has always been extended than spots. If you have 25 spots you can not only offer 25 scholarships, or you might end up with only 5 in the class. Every program has to hedge their bets. Just like in a sales position. If you have to get 10 new clients, do you only make an offer to 10?

What is unethical? Being held hostage by a teenage kid that wants attention and after he verbally commits decides to visit 5 more schools? The job of the staff is to get the best athletes every class to fill needs and to make sure every spot is filled.

Nick Saban

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You’re making excuses without seeing the difference. If I tell a kid, “we want you at RB. Here is your offer. If you accept, the spot is your’s. If you don’t, then if we fill up, you might lose your offer.”

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I am not making any excuses you just want to argue about it. You are over the place on this issue. Again, every major program, with maybe the exception of Clemson, offers way more kids than they have spots for including a&m. It is part of the game to hedge their bets to ensure the program fills the spots.

You want a program to honor an offer even if they verbally commit but have no issue with any kid who verbally accepts the offer and on signing day flips. Where is the difference?

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But if you tell a coach, “. Here’s my verbal,” and the coach says, “great, we accept,” but then you say, “well, I am 90% percent committed now. Or on national signing day I am going elsewhere,” because the kid hedged his bets and kept multiple programs on the hook until he decided to finally pick one, that’s bullshite.

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The principle is the same, but you want to call out the program but yet ignore the kid who does the same thing.

Anyone that follows recruiting long enough understands a verbal really has no value except maybe entertainment. Because until a kid signs they have not officially accepted any offer.

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Again, every major program, with maybe the exception of Clemson, offers way more kids than they have spots for including a&m. It is part of the game to hedge their bets to ensure the program fills the spots.

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Clemson is a major offender of this. there is no "with exception" to it. They offered 287 kids in 2019.

Georgia?

A kid is verbally committed to a particular school, tight with current players and other recruits of said school. Good solid relationship on both sides.
That same kid gets a call and is suddenly poached. A 17 yr old kid is fed a line of crap by a coach who talks like a used car salesman. The kid is promised the moon along with a high six figure per month salary. Kid commits with the poacher while the team he truly loves logo's are on the refrigerator.

This is the new college football landscape!

Damn, was it us?

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Clemson is a major offender of this. there is no "with exception" to it. They offered 287 kids in 2019.

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But this is not all that unusual. South Carolina gave out 265 for the 2023 class.
247-BigSpur

Georgia gave out 241.
Georgia 247

Texas A&M gave out 257.
247

Alabama "only" gave out 192.
247

LSU gave out 263.
247


This has been happening for as long as I can remember.
I'm not trying to point fingers. I was genuinely interested when I saw the topic, so I looked it up.

After rereading the Gamecock comment I was curious and it shows South Carolina handing out 242 offers in 2019, so it's not just Clemson. It's everybody.

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FWIW, Georgia gave out 286 in 2019.
Also showing that Clemson actually gave out 162 in 2019.