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re: aTm discipline issues could impact recruiting soon
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:42 am to cardboardboxer
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:42 am to cardboardboxer
Meh. Texas had some really good D's with WM there. Strong is a damn good Defensive mind. UF's D did well against OU in '08 and Strong recruited/coached up those athletes. Granted Texas doesn't have near the talent on D the '08 UF team had. It will take some time, but Strong will slow down O's in that conference. Need the players first.
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:47 am to gatordmb89
I think TCU has been a pretty good example of what to expect if you are going to be a defensive minded program in todays big 12. you just wont be able to stop the other teams enough and you wont be able to score enough. no one is thinking texas is going to absolutely tank, but they will not win the big 12 while briles, stoops, kingsberry, and gundy are in the conference
they should have hired briles
they should have hired briles
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:53 am to WestCoastAg
TCU doesn't get the athletes that Texas will get on D. I don't think that's a great comparison for what Texas is capable of defensively.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 11:58 am to gatordmb89
quote:you do know that texas has been almost completely shut out of DT for like two or three years right? these athletes that texas will need to get to be able to succeed are coming to us or they are going to lsu or bama. I think calling them a richer mans TCU is pretty accurate. sure they wont have a season as bad as TCU had this year, but they will probably be stuck at 7/8 wins
Texas will get on D.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:12 pm to WestCoastAg
Louisville has had a solid offense through strongs tenure. Their offense doesn't need to be elite just effective. IMO strong has the largest alumni network in the nation, a huge booster and financial base, the best university in texas, some of the best athletic facilities in the nation and kids who grew up wanting to be a longhorn. Could be missing the point so someone tell me what does Baylor, TCU, SMU, Ags have over UT ? Other than being in different conferences
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I think calling them a richer mans TCU is pretty biased
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:21 pm to WestCoastAg
Strong hasn't even had 1 recruiting cycle yet.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:27 pm to JimmyHDeridderhigh
Louisville also had Teddy Bridgewater. Texas has a QB who is one concussion away from never playing again.
A&M has almost as large of an alumni network which is more active, and BETTER facilities and are taking kids who grew up wanting to be longhorns.
A&M has almost as large of an alumni network which is more active, and BETTER facilities and are taking kids who grew up wanting to be longhorns.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:47 pm to WestCoastAg
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you do know that texas has been almost completely shut out of DT for like two or three years right? these athletes that texas will need to get to be able to succeed are coming to us or they are going to lsu or bama. I think calling them a richer mans TCU is pretty accurate. sure they wont have a season as bad as TCU had this year, but they will probably be stuck at 7/8 wins
I guess the Horns and the Aggies have something in common
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:55 pm to cardboardboxer
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It is Fran vs Leach all over again.
One of the best ways I've seen it put.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 12:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Doesn't UT have a stud freshman and a quality senior from USC now? It could be perceived that financially few can match or exceed the resources of Texas. Better facilities, how so? And taking those kids for how long? UT is power in Texas. They'll be bck quickly and even if Ags dominate the recruiting I honestly feel with such a weaker conference horns will bring home championships the Ags can't. No knock on Ags the west is a ridiculous conference where they'll have to beat lsu, bama THEN beat the best in the east to win. All I'm saying is UT is UT. don't let the recent success cloud that fact
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:00 pm to Swaggit
Without seeing Texas play a game, I would actually say that's a less than informed way to put it. Considering ATM fans thought Fran would work out. Should probably give it some time before labeling Strong.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:21 pm to gatordmb89
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Texas had some really good D's with WM there.
That was a different situation. Now these Big 12 O's are in top shape.
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It will take some time, but Strong will slow down O's in that conference.
We will see. The near-term future of recruiting in the state hinges on him doing or not doing it quickly.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:26 pm to JimmyHDeridderhigh
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Better facilities, how so?
Our facilities are better and our stadium is bigger. They are landlocked in downtown Austin so we can spend way less to get more.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:29 pm to gatordmb89
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Should probably give it some time before labeling Strong.
It wasn't a label, it was an analogy.
I am not saying Strong is Fran, Strong is a better coach than Fran. I am saying like Fran VS Leach he will find himself in shootouts that are hard to always win, and in the modern Big 12 if you drop a single game you are probably out of the playoff picture.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:47 pm to cardboardboxer
Charlie Strong is Billy Gillespie at UK. He's not a great PR/media guy.
Not to mention his louisiville teams were just ok, and completely built off untouchable Florida athletes that every other SEC/Florida school didn't want. Of course he ran through his conference. Petrino was there b4 too so it's not like UL was down.
The word is that he came in hot on negative recruiting against us, and kids didn't like it. Pretty hypocritical considering the list of discipline issues he's had at every stop.
I'm not worried about strong. He burns a new bridge at a texas hs almost every day.
I'm not worried, and when sumlin is gone and strong is gone a&m will still be 1a or 1b every year. The SEC IS ON TOP, and even when it's not perceived as well as it is now, it's still a different option from the other texas schools.
Not to mention his louisiville teams were just ok, and completely built off untouchable Florida athletes that every other SEC/Florida school didn't want. Of course he ran through his conference. Petrino was there b4 too so it's not like UL was down.
The word is that he came in hot on negative recruiting against us, and kids didn't like it. Pretty hypocritical considering the list of discipline issues he's had at every stop.
I'm not worried about strong. He burns a new bridge at a texas hs almost every day.
I'm not worried, and when sumlin is gone and strong is gone a&m will still be 1a or 1b every year. The SEC IS ON TOP, and even when it's not perceived as well as it is now, it's still a different option from the other texas schools.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:50 pm to JimmyHDeridderhigh
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Could be missing the point so someone tell me what does Baylor, TCU, SMU, Ags have over UT ? Other than being in different conferences
1. A&M already has the largest enrollment of any University in Texas and has plenty of real estate available for expansion. tu is landlocked in downtown Austin.
2. A&M will have a larger football stadium and better football facilities very shortly.
3. Donations to A&M were significantly larger than the donations to tu last year.
4. Sumlin's charima and the lure of playing SEC ball in Texas are a dynamite combination. Sumlin is taking recruits who grew up thinking they wanted to be Longhorns.
Anyone who thinks tu will ever dominate Texas recruiting again are wrong.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:47 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
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Anyone who thinks tu will ever dominate Texas recruiting again are wrong.
This, literally. Tu will never have again, what they had during the 2000's. A&M is the best choice In the state now, and even if we lose some shine and Charlie gains some, it can never be as bad as it was these last 15 years or so.
And our facilities are already better than tu's the stadium is the only thing left to finish. Do I need to tell anyone to google tu's weight room? Looks like it's in a fricking dungeon. Compared to our state of the art facility, etc.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:20 pm to JimmyHDeridderhigh
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They'll be bck quickly and even if Ags dominate the recruiting I honestly feel with such a weaker conference horns will bring home championships the Ags can't.
You're right, but the bluest of the blue chips aren't thinking primarily of winning collegiate championships. They're thinking of getting to the NFL. And right now, and for the foreseeable future, the best path to the NFL is through the SEC. The #s of players drafted proves that. Contrast w/ the B12, which sends about the same number of kids to the NFL as the Mountain West Conference (17 vs. 16). If you're a kid with NFL aspirations, the decision is a no-brainer. You want to prove yourself against the best, so you go to the SEC. If you're in Texas, the most natural choice is A&M.
The SEC is Beverly Hills, while the B12 is the ghetto. You can build a mansion in the ghetto if you want, but you're still in the ghetto. This is the situation UTx finds itself in, and for as long as they're in the B12, it will never get better. In fact, it will probably get worse as the Jr. and Sr. recruits that chose the B12 before it became a dumpster fire graduate, and are replaced by the scrubs that the SEC didn't want.
When UTx finally gets desperate enough to blow up the B12, then we'll see what kind of conference they can join. Even then, it will never be what the SEC is. A pumped up ACC or PAC would be better than the B12, but still not on the same level as the SEC. So the same dynamic will continue. Some horns see this, and are beginning to push for UTx to try for the SEC. If THAT happened, then it would be a game changer. Which is why A&M will do everything in it's power to prevent it.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 6:14 pm to Mirthomatic
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When UTx finally gets desperate enough to blow up the B12, then we'll see what kind of conference they can join
Not only that, they have the Baylor/Tech/TCU problem to contend with as well. A&M was allowed to leave because "TCU was an upgrade. No one would miss them".
If Texas destroys the conference, there will be a lot of backlash and it won't be pretty.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 10:51 pm to JimmyHDeridderhigh
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I think your post is pretty biased
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 10:52 pm
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