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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
To Djs first:

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Where it hurts most is that he goes to your main sec competition and drastically improves our qb situation going forward.


If he stays. He's a great addition but not only has he not even signed his LOI, he's still got to compete when he gets on campus. Kirby's QBs don't seem to like competition since the last two who were backups transferred. I don't lose too much sleep over a QB on a running team.

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Being a GA. boy I hope the best for Emory Jones except against UGA of course but I just don't see it, Jalon Jones is a exceptional athlete with great speed but he needs to work on his mechanics as a passer. I expect Jalon to be the Gators starter in 2020 but neither Jones is as advanced as a passer as Beck is today. There was a reason Mullen pushed Richardson to the side for Beck but like it has been discussed Beck probably does fit UGA's scheme better as a pro style QB.


Emory has been the talk of the town, apparently having put on a ton of weight and has looked very good. I agree with the sentiment on Jalon, I think he's by far got more assets and by 2020 I think he'll have enough time in the system to drastically fit the job.

Beck definitely fits Georgia's system a lot more than Florida's, and honestly our system isn't good for a guy who wants to pass a lot or have meaningful passing downs. The entire Mullen offense is dependent on Quarterback runs and sucking in defenders to make easier passers so this isn't a giant loss (from my perspective).

It was really foolish to push out Richardson, a true fit to our offense to try and get Beck, an outlier.


djsdawg
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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he stays. He's a great addition but not only has he not even signed his LOI, he's still got to compete when he gets on campus. Kirby's QBs don't seem to like competition since the last two who were backups transferred. I don't lose too much sleep over a QB on a running team.


He would probably leave if he gets beat out by Mathis or the 2021 qb we sign.

Just the same, Emory will probably Leave if jalon beats him out. That’s how it works at most places these days. It’s not an isolated Kirby problem.

A running team is much harder to beat if it has a qb who can destroy a team through the air, so it’s not good for uf if uga is able to maintain high quality qb play, which we were more concerned about after fields left.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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He would probably leave if he gets beat out by Mathis or the 2021 qb we sign.


So worrying about him now is a :shrug:

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Just the same, Emory will probably Leave if jalon beats him out. That’s how it works at most places these days. It’s not an isolated Kirby problem.



Kirby hasn't had a QB on the roster for more than one year outside of Fromm in three different years. That's not good for continuity.

Let's not count Stetson since he transferred from and to Georgia and is/was a walkon.

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A running team is much harder to beat if it has a qb who can destroy a team through the air, so it’s not good for uf if uga is able to maintain high quality qb play, which we were more concerned about after fields left.


Again, as long as he's still there. Right now it's a shrug moment. If you're trying to convince me to worry about a guy who hasn't signed his LOI and might not even be a starter at Georgia until 2021 you're not doing a good job. Until then we're just spinning wheels about what ifs.


djsdawg
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
This just increases the odds uga maintains high quality qb play. That’s not good for Florida. Beck seems like a much better prospect than dwan Mathis, so based on that, it would have been a big drop off if we missed on beck. If dwan beats him out, and he leaves, that probably means dwan is good, which keeps Florida in the same predicament.

Just about impossible to keep 3 five stars on a roster, especially when it’s the 2nd one that wins the job twice. Fromm would have left if Eason or fields beat him out.


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RD Dawg
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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Kirby hasn't had a QB on the roster for more than one year outside of Fromm in three different years. That's not good for continuity.


Eason was here for the '16 and '17 seasons.

Highly recruited 4 and 5 star QB's who transfer if they don't start is the new norm these days.Happened at Clemson,OSU and Bama.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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Eason was here for the '16 and '17 seasons.


If you want to count 17 I guess semantically you could, but to pretend like he wasn't clearly transferring for almost the entire year (I think rumors circulated in the 6th game of the season, but people knew well before that) then I guess we'll leave it there.

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Highly recruited 4 and 5 star QB's who transfer if they don't start is the new norm these days.Happened at Clemson,OSU and Bama.


When did any of those teams have 75% of their QB roster transfer in the span of 3 years without replacing them with transfers? Literally, Georgia only has one QB on the roster with any real on-field experience (Fromm). Who takes over if Fromm goes down?


meansonny
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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Who takes over if Fromm goes down?


Baker Mayfield 2.0
Image: https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/87/887/8887087.jpeg


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meansonny
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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When did any of those teams have 75% of their QB roster transfer in the span of 3 years


You're kind of special, aren't you?

On a 4 year cycle, most teams would lose 3 QBs (75%) over a 3 year span.
You make it sound like losing 3 QBs in 3 years is rare.


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djsdawg
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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When did any of those teams have 75% of their QB roster transfer in the span of 3 years without replacing them with transfers?


Didn’t Clemson just lose 3 qbs to transfer because of Lawrence? Didn’t bama lose 3 because of hurts and now lost hurts? As I said, qbs transfer these days if they don’t start. They want to play. It’s not isolated to uga.


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AndyWoods
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
Hopefully Tulane.


AndyWoods
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
Please, sir, share with me your intentions when linking this article.


AndyWoods
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
I was genuinely asking. Am I supposed to be concerned with a kid mulling over his life options? Because healthy adults don't do that.


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RD Dawg
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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Who takes over if Fromm goes down?


Either a 4 star freshman or Stetson Bennett...kinda like '17.

Worked out pretty well,didn't it?


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Crowknowsbest
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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Literally, Georgia only has one QB on the roster with any real on-field experience

That isn’t uncommon


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Drizzt
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
Beck looks a little slow in that photo


Long Dawg
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
Naw, he looks like he was woke too soon after an all night party.


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WG_Dawg
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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Literally, Georgia only has one QB on the roster with any real on-field experience


and you can literally say the same thing entering the season for every single year of kirby's tenure here. Worked out ok so far.
This post was edited on 3/8 at 9:48 am


fibonaccisquared
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re: 4* QB Carson Beck commits to UGA
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and you can literally say the same thing entering the season for every single year of kirby's tenure here. Worked out ok so far.


Hell, this is probably the case at about 75% of P5 schools at least. Very few put a backup in for significant reps against anything other than a rent-a-win unless forced to do so.

Who on Florida's roster has "real on-field experience". You've got Franks of course... and then Trask with some limited action (22 passing attempts and 5 rushing attempts in his career over 3 games) and EJ with limited action (16 passing attempts and 18 rushing attempts over 4 games), but hardly substantial enough to argue that it was "real on-field experience".


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