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re: 4* OT Damieon George from TX commits to BAMA

Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:02 pm to
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Where is he a 4 star OT and ESPN doesnt count bc its ESPN.

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TideSaint

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Now THIS is being salty.


ESPN has him listed as a 315lb 4*, Rivals has him listed as a 347lb 3*, Composite got him as a 348lb 3*. One is not like the others.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:15 pm to
Bama reaching like this is a new thing.
Posted by Aggiehoss04
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2017
885 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:46 pm to
George has an impressive offer list, so it's not like this is a complete reach
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
3474 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 6:33 am to
Thanks for the narration...
Posted by Tehol Hornddict
Member since Apr 2019
388 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 6:44 am to
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George has an impressive offer list, so it's not like this is a complete reach

Everyone who wanted Evans had to offer George
Posted by muletide
Orange Beach
Member since May 2019
342 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:12 pm to
That baw is gorilla strong!
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 2:20 pm to
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George has an impressive offer list


Gee, I wonder why

Could it because his teammate is.....
THIS GUY??

Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22085 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:29 pm to
Yeah, you keep on doubting Saban and Bama’s recruiting . . .

I remember the questions on here about Josh Jacobs a few years ago.

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:38 pm to
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Yeah, you keep on doubting Saban and Bama’s recruiting . . .



Every report of George this spring and summer has been of him looking bad and struggling. Look at his ranking history alone, he's plummeted.

The only reason you're going after him is to secure Evans, George is a throwaway recruit for Bama.

And please dont act like you have some sort of huge success rate with 3-stars, you dont
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
13987 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:54 pm to
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The only reason you're going after him is to secure Evans, George is a throwaway recruit for Bama please dont act like you have some sort of huge success rate with 3-stars, you dont. 




Mark Ingram was 3 star recruit with scout.

Terrence cody 3 star.

Eddie jackson 3 star.

Brad smelley 3 star.

Javier arenas 3 star.

Mac womack 3 star.

Josh jacobs 3 star.

Marquis maze 3 star.

Kevin norwood 3 star.

Vinnie sunseri 3 star.

Brandon deadrick 3 star.

Quinton dial 3 star.

John parker wilson 3 star.

Christion jones 3 star.

Tyrone prothro 3 star.

Anthony steen 3 star.

Glen coffee 3 star.

Greg mcelroy 3 star.

William vlachos 3 star.

Chance warmack 3 star.

Wallace gilberry 3 star.



Just to name a few. There are others. You can stop laughing now.












This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 6:13 pm to
Damn you went in the wayback machine for some of those
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 7:17 pm to
Where are the badass 3 star OT's on this list?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:43 am to
Besides the fact you had to dig back about 10 years to find most of those players, had to dig to put qualifers on (Well he was a 3-star here) and even listed out several mediocre players, here's what I'm talking about.

Let's start with 2016 247 composite and work our way back since they have at least been 3 seasons in at this point. We'll look at non specialists 3 star players or below that went to Bama, ALL of them for the last several years.

2016
WR T.J. Simmons - Transferred out
TE Miller Forristall - 6 catches in 3 seasons
RB Josh Jacobs - Big hit, drafted 1st round
DE Jamar King - 6 tackles in 3 seasons
TE Irv Smith Jr - big hit, drafted 2nd round
CB Aaron Robinson - Transferred out
LB Shawn Jennings - Transferred out
LB Joe Donald - No stats in 3 seasons
- 2 out of 8 players turned into anything -

2015
DE Christian Bell - Transferred out
DT Jonathan Taylor - Transferred out
S Keaton Anderson - 21 tackles in 4 years (assuming special teamer)
OT Matt Womack - Starter 1 season in 4 years
- 1 out 4 players turned into anything -

2014
DE O.J. Smith - Transferred out
TE Ty Flournoy-Smith - 5 catches in 2 seasons
- 0 out of 2 players turned into anything -

2013
WR Raheem Falkins - Transferred out
CB/S Eddie Jackson - Good player, 4th round pick
OC Bradley Bozeman - 2 year starter, 6th round pick
CB Jonathan Cook - Transferred out
OT Brandon Hill - Transferred out
ILB Walker Jones - 1 tackle in career
QB Parker McLeod - Transferred out
- 2 out of 7 players turned into anything -

2012
DE Dakota Ball - 13 tackles in 4 seasons
CB Deion Belue - 2 year starter at CB, undrafted though
TE Kurt Freitag - Kicked off/transferred
QB Alec Morris - Transferred out
DT Darren Lake - career backup
OT Caleb Gulledge - Transferred out
- 1 out of 6 players turned into anything -

So over that most recent 5 year span, 6 out of 27 3 stars or below, who WEREN'T specialists, turned into anything at Bama. So again, my point stands, Saban isn't some kind of 3-star recruiting savant. Roughly 20% of the 3 stars really do anything at Bama most recently. It's not really different at a lot of other big power 5 recruiting prowess schools either.

The point here is some ridiculous notion Saban has a great eye for the "lesser" (3-star) players than others, it's false. He very very much gets by on all the highly talented guys, not hitting on any sort of high rate on 3-stars.
This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13296 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 9:40 am to
They will take away George's offer on signing day and make him grey shirt. Shady business to lure in his teammate. Bama wouldn't take a 3* in any other instance
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:27 am to
George is a 3 star. Why do you have to lie and say he's a 4 star when hes clearly not? I'm not big on star rankings anyway, bc if the guy can play, he can play.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Besides the fact you had to dig back about 10 years

Prothro was an 03 recruit
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 2:45 pm to
Just watch the kid's tape. He's not a Bama OT. This is obviously a play for Evans, but my money is on OSU or UGA.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72158 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 4:42 pm to
Alabama has a decent track record with three stars on the OL. But I think George is still a guard.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9124 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 6:31 pm to
You mean half of our classes don’t contribute? Shocking. Why don’t you do everybody’s classes. You said Bama hasn’t had success with 3 stars. He proved you wrong. Way to move the goalposts though.

Eta sorry you said Bama hasn’t had huge success rates with 3* lol. Who has? It doesn’t change the fact Bama has had successes with them.

While we’re at it why don’t you list the “package deals” Saban has signed to get the higher rated recruit, since he just throws away scholarships to get the better player.
This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
13987 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:48 pm to
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You mean half of our classes don’t contribute? Shocking. Why don’t you do everybody’s classes. You said Bama hasn’t had success with 3 stars. He proved you wrong. Way to move the goalposts though. 


The guy literally said. "please dont act like you have some sort of huge success rate with 3-stars, you dont."


So we'll stick with the words "huge success".

Mark ingram 3 star on scout heisman winning running back.

Greg mcelroy consensus 3 star national championship winning QB.

Jake coker consensus 3 star national championship winning grad transfer QB.

Terrence cody consensus 3 star who blocks two back to back field goals to save Alabama's championship season.

Javier arenas consensus 3 star who picks off tim tebow to secure the SEC title.

Josh jacobs consensus 3 star running back taken in the 1st round of the 2019 draft.

John parker wilson consensus 3 star quarterback who breaks auburns 6 game winning streak to the tune of 36 to 0.

If these aren't "huge successes", then what are they?

That guy's a dick.





This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 8:51 pm
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