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re: 2013 Alabama Football Recruiting Thread - DH Decommited from UGA
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:09 pm to Tide or Die87
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:09 pm to Tide or Die87
I don't want to move Henry. I want to give him a shot at rb. He can do things Kamara can't because he's a big back. Kamara won't take snaps from players we already have because he doesn't do anything better. Henry could because he adds size and is as fast as Kamara. He could be, at least, a slightly better Fowler. I'll take that. Kamara is Blake Sims. Would you rather have another Fowler or another Blake Sims?
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Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:13 pm to Sandkhan
Why are you saying Blake Sims when we have had guys his size that have made a big difference. What has Fowler done that is soo great that you are using him. That kid has nowhere near the power that Fowler has. Fowler is all legs this kid is all chest big difference.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:13 pm to BuccWildBammer
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My fear about Langley was right, Bama really impressed him after the visit even surging ahead, but his tune very quickly changed after returning home to be around fam and friends, there will always be certain parts of Ga that regardless of our efforts and the advantages our D has like Saban being the DB coach, the kids will always end up Dawgs.
Eh, I wouldnt say Kell is anymore pro-uga than any other school in this area. There's always going to be some UGA support at any GA highschool, but Kell is just another metro ATL HS with plenty of transients. Now he might have a lot of UGA fans that are close to him, but I wouldnt consider this a UGA stronghold compared to other parts of the state.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:17 pm to Sandkhan
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a slightly better Fowler
you've crossed the line now
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:18 pm to Sandkhan
After watching his highlights, I'm very happy with the pickup of Darius Paige. He looks like he could be a badass DT/NG for us in the future.
Things are looking good for Allen so hopefully he will pull the trigger soon.
I'm with Sankhan as well in the Henry/Kamara debate. Kamara would be a better RB, but I don't see why we just add Henry as a RB and switch him over if it doesn't work out.
Another thing I like about the possibility of getting Henry is that it could potentially help us in getting Tunsil. Henry has tried to get Tunsil to come with him to UGA so if we were able to flip Henry, that could really help us in our pursuit of Tunsil.
Things are looking good for Allen so hopefully he will pull the trigger soon.
I'm with Sankhan as well in the Henry/Kamara debate. Kamara would be a better RB, but I don't see why we just add Henry as a RB and switch him over if it doesn't work out.
Another thing I like about the possibility of getting Henry is that it could potentially help us in getting Tunsil. Henry has tried to get Tunsil to come with him to UGA so if we were able to flip Henry, that could really help us in our pursuit of Tunsil.
This post was edited on 5/20/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:20 pm to T Rich3
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but I don't see why we just add Henry as
a RB and switch him over if it doesn't work out.
He doesn't seem very open to changing positions, which is my concern. That may change if he finds himself 4th or 5th on the RB depth chart though.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:23 pm to bona fide
I love fowlerPosted on 5/20/12 at 1:27 pm to Tide or Die87
For every 10 guys we've brought in his size, maybe 2 have contributed. He just reminds me of Sims. I wasn't a huge fan of Sims coming out of hs either. No proof on this board, so you'll have to take my word on it, but I've been pretty good at picking who was going to be good for us.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:33 pm to Robot Santa
The way I see it we might as well start him out at RB and see how it goes. If its a major failure then maybe he will see his potential at another position. Most of these kids want to go to the NFL and this dude probably thinks he's going to be the next Brandon Jacobs, but if we could somehow convince him of his potential at another position, maybe he will change his mind. In one of his recent interviews it sounded like he is enamored with the idea of going to Bama because he watched the draft and saw how many 1st rounders we have been sending to the NFL. IIRC CNS actually called Henry during the draft. I really hope we do decide to give this guy a shot and it sounds like he wants in, so I guess we just have to wait and see what happens in June.
This post was edited on 5/20/12 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:35 pm to sarc
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Henry being a stud H-back, TE, LB, or possibly even WR or DE if he doesn't work out at RB
No one knows if he would be good at those positions or not, mainly because he's never played any other positions besides RB. Another big thing with Henry is he's not even open to playing another position until after his second year. Do you really think he'll be able to get PT when he switches to LB his JR year never having played the position. Especially when you factor in the elite talent we have at LB. Does Henry even have the head hunter mentality that you need for D?
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even WR
A 250lb WR? Yes we all know Alshon was a chunker, but this is pushing it.
Either way he just doesnt fit in with us. He's going to switch to another position his JR, one that he has ZERO experience at, and beat out the 5 stars we have at that position? No way.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:36 pm to Sandkhan
I completely agree with Sand on Henry. Kamara may be good but Henry brings alot more to the table than Kamara. And yes Henry may not end up at RB but he is an athlete that could excel at multiple positions in college.
We already have 2 RBs in this class, bring Henry in as a Ath. That will also not look as bad next year with some of the RBs on the table for UA in the 2014 class.
One other thing if Saban and staff were no longer considering Henry because of Kamara why have him visit in June. And if Saban likes both he will find a spot on the team for both. And the last thing we want is what happened with Gunner and JW last year where we got neither. Personally I say take Henry because I think he has more to offer and a greater upside, but atleast whoever is willing to commit first take them.
We already have 2 RBs in this class, bring Henry in as a Ath. That will also not look as bad next year with some of the RBs on the table for UA in the 2014 class.
One other thing if Saban and staff were no longer considering Henry because of Kamara why have him visit in June. And if Saban likes both he will find a spot on the team for both. And the last thing we want is what happened with Gunner and JW last year where we got neither. Personally I say take Henry because I think he has more to offer and a greater upside, but atleast whoever is willing to commit first take them.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:38 pm to DonDraper
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No one knows if he would be good at those positions or not, mainly because he's never played any other positions besides RB.
No one knows if Kamara will be a good RB in college or in the SEC. What we do know is Henry can probably play other places based on his athletic ability and size and with our staff should excel. We also know that Jones and Tenpenny can do everything Kamara can or atleast fulfill our needs at RB in this class. What we do not know is if Kamara comes to UA and can not beat out Jones or Tenpenny can he play anywhere else.
This post was edited on 5/20/12 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:49 pm to Sandkhan
I think in a perfect world we would take Henry and Kamara but numbers are obviously tight this year. Not to mention we already have 8 offensive recruits compared to only 3 defensive (plus 2 atheltes in Stewart and Johnson). We are in very good positon for a few other offensive recruits. At some point, the staff does have to draw the line on offensive guys and bring in some defense. Personally, i think Henry is a 100% take if he wants to come. We dont have anyone else like him on the roster... while we do have other guys like Kamara (Hart and Sims come to mind). As someone pointed out above, Henry is a known recruiter...let him help us reel in some other guys were after. Not me mention taking UGA's only 5* would be absolutely epic. At the end of the day, ill trust our staff to make the right decision. For those knocking Henry for his upright running, CBB is the best in the business and that would be corrected quickly. We only have Fowler for 2 more seasons and then our "big back" is gone....
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:53 pm to TideWarrior
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What we do know is Henry can play other places
How do you know? I repeat, he has never played another position besides RB.
What we do know about Henry....
1. He only has experience at RB.
2. He's not open to playing another position until after his sophomore year.
Do you really expect for him to switch to a position his JR year and get PT at a position he has never played before? Moreso you expect him to beat out elite players who have been playing that position their whole life? If he was open to playing another position day 1 that would be one thing, but it's not. He could have success at many SEC teams, but I just dont see it at UA.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:53 pm to DonDraper
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A 250lb WR? Yes we all know Alshon was a chunker, but this is pushing it
I understand the skepticism. There aren't many WRs who are 240 but there aren't many 240 guys who can run a 4.58. Watch this KO return and tell me you don't see his potential as a WR: LINK
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:54 pm to Sandkhan
I don't even like moving guys around. Besides Fowler, who has that worked out well for? If a guy doesn't stick in that first year then I usually write them off, so just pure rb, I'd rather have Henry. That's a preference based on bringing different things to the table. But if either HAVE to move, Henry can play multiple rolls and Kamara can play slot, which we are overstocked at
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:56 pm to DonDraper
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How do you know? I repeat, he has never played another position besides RB.
I actually reworded that before you posted to not assume I knew for sure he could.8)
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:59 pm to sarc
I can see it, or even TE at 6'3". But it's not inconceivable that he drops 20 pounds or so. I think he played heavy last year
Posted on 5/20/12 at 1:59 pm to crimson008
All this talk about Henry, and hardly anyone has mentioned that he is already committed, and we would have to flip him.
As athletic as he is, why has he only played RB. Most of these guys play both ways. He also never lowers his shoulder. Its pretty cool to see a guy that size out running and juking everybody. But that aint gonna work as good at the next level.
As athletic as he is, why has he only played RB. Most of these guys play both ways. He also never lowers his shoulder. Its pretty cool to see a guy that size out running and juking everybody. But that aint gonna work as good at the next level.
Posted on 5/20/12 at 2:00 pm to Sandkhan
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I don't even like moving guys around. Besides Fowler, who has that worked out well for?
Pretty sure Fowler has been RB his entire time at Bama. He was both LB and RB in HS.
Sims should have been a DB from day one. Have posted often about his situation. Thought he would transfer after spring but the new carrot will probably keep him around.
This post was edited on 5/20/12 at 2:02 pm
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