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re: Would I be in the minority thinking Dabo will never come to Alabama?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:03 pm to CivilTiger83
Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:03 pm to CivilTiger83
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If you look at Clemson's secondary this year, you will see that we are really thin because Dabo signed too many of those guys in the secondary, and at a couple of other positions. There is some great talent in the 1st and 2nd team, and then there are some guys who wouldn't start for Wake Forest. Alabama fans would probably riot over some of his recruiting takes.
Are you trying to say Dabo passed on 5 star / 4 star players to sign these players? I find that hard to believe.
Your premise seems to be that most every 5 star / 4 star will commit to Clemson if made an offer. Many of of the best players chose to go to programs based on early playing time and other reasons.
Given how large football teams are, it would be surprising to me if Alabama did not take some less recruited players.
I would think Wake's starters are solid players so I don't think not being able to start for Wake is the negative you are trying to make it. A program like Clemson generally beats a Wake because Wake lacks depth.
Clemson has only loss 1 more game than Alabama the past 3 years despite this wide open offense as you describe it.
This post was edited on 4/17/18 at 6:38 pm
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Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:44 pm to Tillman
Tillman, we have given scholarships to guys that will never contribute. I am not going to call out any specific players. Yes we have backed off of or not recruited 3 and 4 star players, because we hit our scholarship limits.
Clemson doesn't oversign and process players like some programs do... Although guys do transfer for lack of playing time.
Clemson doesn't oversign and process players like some programs do... Although guys do transfer for lack of playing time.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:40 am to Tillman
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Saying ALabama is a more prestigious job than Clemson is a special kind of redneck homer assertion.
If Bama pays him 3 times as much as Clemson, that would underscore how stupid ALabama people are. He is one of the highest paid coaches at Clemson.
If Alabama is much more prestigious than Clemson, why would you pay a coach 3 times as much as Clemson. lol If you throwing crazy money at a coach, you are admitting it is about the coach, not Alabama's 'tradition'.
Saying Alabama is a more prestigious football program than Clemson is simply stating the obvious, and everybody knows it. Bama pays their coaches more than Clemson because Bama makes more money at football than Clemson, therefore an Alabama coach deserves to make more money than a Clemson coach.This is how America works. Tradition helps, but college football is and has always been about coaching and recruiting. Everybody knows that too.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:00 am to CivilTiger83
quote:EVERY big time program does the same thing. If a program isn't utilizing every aspect of the opportunities it's allowed under the rules, then they're shorting the rest of the team, the program, school, and all of their fans...there's no room for soapboxes at this level.
Tillman, we have given scholarships to guys that will never contribute. I am not going to call out any specific players. Yes we have backed off of or not recruited 3 and 4 star players, because we hit our scholarship limits.
Clemson doesn't oversign and process players like some programs do... Although guys do transfer for lack of playing time.
Edit: how many very talented kids do you think Alabama has to pass on each year because of lack of scholarships?
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:02 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:14 am to Tillman
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Saying ALabama is a more prestigious job than Clemson is a special kind of redneck homer assertion.
Is it?
Now you're just playing with us.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:16 am to FourThreeForty
I would say Tillman is an alt but he is just too genuinely ignorant to be anything other than a kid.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:22 am to CivilTiger83
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Tillman, we have given scholarships to guys that will never contribute. I am not going to call out any specific players. Yes we have backed off of or not recruited 3 and 4 star players, because we hit our scholarship limits.
Clemson doesn't oversign and process players like some programs do... Although guys do transfer for lack of playing time.
Clemson has had relatively small signing classes the past few years:
2018: 17
2017: 14
2016: 22
Been saying it for a couple of years, that the small class size will eventually catch up with them. Additionally, these small classes have been DL, WR and QB heavy (eg: 2 QB's in the 14 player 2017 class, 5 DL in the 17 player 2018 class). Here are the QB's Clemson has on scholarship right now.
Kelly Bryant Sr. (4*)
Chase Brice So. (4*)
Hunter Johnson So. (5*)
Trevor Lawrence Fr (5*)
Singularly looking at that position, that is an awesome roster. But numbers like this will inevitably produce a lack of depth/inexperience at some other positions in the future. It's this lack of depth/experience that other teams can exploit.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:28 am to AuburnPanic40
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I would say Tillman is an alt but he is just too genuinely ignorant to be anything other than a kid.
Just the name TILLMAN though makes me think he is.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:30 pm to I Bleed Garnet
This topic has come up many times and each thread has been confusing. We should take a poll about it because there is certain to be a major push by many Alabama fans for Dabo to succeed Saban. I'm not one of those fans.
I hate the way Dabo coaches. He's a QB first coach. He builds his entire offense around his QB and the team wins or loses on his singular performance. He leaves everything else to the Coordinators and relegates himself on game day to a cheerleader.
Saban utilizes the strengths of every player on the team. Team strength is how Saban and Alabama win.
I hate the way Dabo coaches. He's a QB first coach. He builds his entire offense around his QB and the team wins or loses on his singular performance. He leaves everything else to the Coordinators and relegates himself on game day to a cheerleader.
Saban utilizes the strengths of every player on the team. Team strength is how Saban and Alabama win.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:09 pm to TrendingRight
I agree.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:12 pm to TrendingRight
This makes no sense given QBs need WRs to catch the ball. A walkon in Renfrow blistered the Alabama defense two years in a row. The tightend Legget made a sensational catch on that last drive to win the natty. The RB Gallman was a big reason Clemson won the title and he's in the NFL. The defense is one of of the biggest reasons Clemson won a lot of games the past 5 years. This past year it was explosive big runs by RBs Etinenee and Feaster that helped CLemson win games.
Literally everything you said isn't true.
Your cheerleader comment indicates you just repeat what you hear other people say. You can just as easily call Saban a cheerleader. Why would you not be a cheerleader of your team. lol
Saban is a good coach but is incredible how much Bama homers like you brown nose him. Have some self respect.
Your premise seems to be that to win football games, a coach needs to be an uptight aloof person. No personality allowed. Yet I can think of a ton of coaches like that who don't win as much as Dabo.
Literally everything you said isn't true.
Your cheerleader comment indicates you just repeat what you hear other people say. You can just as easily call Saban a cheerleader. Why would you not be a cheerleader of your team. lol
Saban is a good coach but is incredible how much Bama homers like you brown nose him. Have some self respect.
Your premise seems to be that to win football games, a coach needs to be an uptight aloof person. No personality allowed. Yet I can think of a ton of coaches like that who don't win as much as Dabo.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:16 pm to AuburnPanic40
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I would say Tillman is an alt but he is just too genuinely ignorant to be anything other than a kid.
Says a Wake Forest fanboy. Pretty sure I have a higher IQ than you.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:17 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Is it?
Now you're just playing with us.
Crazy how much time you spend brown nosing Alabama's football team. Why don't you just give up Gamecock football and be a full time Bama fan.
WHat is prestigious about Alabama? Moreover, howw was Clemson able to beat them for a natty if Bama is more prestigious. I can't wait to see you market Alabama football some more.
Clemson has won two national titles and it is likely going to win more titles, it has the most ACC titles, it has dominated its state rival, it has a nice campus,stadium and facilities, it recruits well, etc.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:24 pm to viceman
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Saying Alabama is a more prestigious football program than Clemson is simply stating the obvious, and everybody knows it. Bama pays their coaches more than Clemson because Bama makes more money at football than Clemson, therefore an Alabama coach deserves to make more money than a Clemson coach.This is how America works. Tradition helps, but college football is and has always been about coaching and recruiting. Everybody knows that too.
Paying coaches more doesn't mean the program is more prestigious. It is a game. What is prestigious about a game? You are such a homer. The average non Alabama fan does not care about your football team. Coaches would line up to go to colleges that paid Alabama crazy money. That's about money,, not prestige.
YOu say your program is so amazing and prestigious and yet you have to overpay coaches to keep them. lol
Clemson has won national titles with two coaches who had no headcoaching experience coming in. Based on your homer logic, that should not be possible, because prestige and Bama pays more. lol
I would think reason Bama pays more is it has a significantly larger alumni base, and probably a larger endowment due to it being an older university.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:37 pm to Tillman
quote:These 2 sentences tell everybody all they need to know about you....sorry.
WHat is prestigious about Alabama? Moreover, howw was Clemson able to beat them for a natty if Bama is more prestigious.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:46 pm to coachcrisp
Says the homer guy. ALabama is SO amazing and prestigious, yet Clemson beat them for a natty.
Put down the pom poms every now and then. Coaches can win titles at Clemson. That has been proven. Can you articulate why Clemson needs to be more 'prestigious? than that?
Do you think Dabo and his coaches have been unpaid by Clemson. lol
Does Saban sit up on a throne during games at Alabama? Does he have a crown on his head. It is just a game homey.
Put down the pom poms every now and then. Coaches can win titles at Clemson. That has been proven. Can you articulate why Clemson needs to be more 'prestigious? than that?
Do you think Dabo and his coaches have been unpaid by Clemson. lol
Does Saban sit up on a throne during games at Alabama? Does he have a crown on his head. It is just a game homey.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:51 pm to Tillman
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Tillman
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prestigious
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:51 pm to pvilleguru
i'm not the one using the word. That's your fellow Alabama homer.
Clemson is recruiting these great football players yet Alabama homers will insist Bama is so amazing compared to Clemson. It makes no sense.
Dabo is one of the highest paid coaches. This Alabama homer makes it sound like he's not getting paid.
Clemson is recruiting these great football players yet Alabama homers will insist Bama is so amazing compared to Clemson. It makes no sense.
Dabo is one of the highest paid coaches. This Alabama homer makes it sound like he's not getting paid.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:55 pm to Tillman
quote:You've used it 7 times in your previous 3 posts.
i'm not the one using the word.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:56 pm to pvilleguru
um,i was responding to the Alabama homer who used it, disgruntled HIllary voter.
I will be so happy if Bama starts to struggle in the future. these alabama homers need to come back down to earth.
I will be so happy if Bama starts to struggle in the future. these alabama homers need to come back down to earth.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 9:59 pm
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